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    Hi everybody. EH suggested I post this, so I will.

    The last day or two, I've been experiencing some sort of lag with the game thread. I'll post something, but it won't appear right away. When it does appear, it's much later in the thread. The post is definitely out of place. Also, earlier posts from all of you don't show up on my screen until much later. Any ideas as to what might be causing this? Anyone else having a similar issue?
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    What browser are you using? It might be out of date and need updating. Short of suggesting hitting refresh a couple of times before you post and after as well, I got nuthin'

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    As I mentioned to WES, she's the first who's had this problem. Hope it can be resolved.

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    Hmm, not sure, I'll have a think. Also, please PM me any examples you have and I'll have a look
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    And there you have someone the size of Sue Storm-Richards facing down someone almost the size of Ben "the Thing" Grimm.










    eta - I surprise myself sometimes with my comics knowledge.
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    Quote Originally posted by anyrose View post
    And there you have someone the size of Sue Storm-Richards facing down someone almost the size of Ben "the Thing" Grimm.
    eta - I surprise myself sometimes with my comics knowledge.
    That is impressive (Sue Storm was pretty badass, IMHO, when they really let her cut loose with her forcefields). But yeah, especially when it's clobberin' time!

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    Holy crap you guys got in a lot of posting while I was away! Lucky Kylah's out of it so I can explain her lack of reaction to all this.

    Poor CIAS. To return and find Velir being manhandled to such a degree!

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    Quote Originally posted by choie View post
    Holy crap you guys got in a lot of posting while I was away! Lucky Kylah's out of it so I can explain her lack of reaction to all this.

    Poor CIAS. To return and find Velir being manhandled to such a degree!
    Hopefully to the right degree he doesn't feel he missed anything - e.g., if I were in CIAS' shoes and Rangin had been manhandled more I could see wanting to have decided how he reacted (...now Graham can only dream he would have fought, justifying further escalating force...). As it is it seems like a good re-entry point.

    Of course if I were CIAS I would be sorely disappointed he doesn't return with Rangin standing over Graham's prone body because T'Var Vulcan nerve-pinched him from behind!

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    Well now...that went well
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    Quote Originally posted by general_urko View post
    Hopefully to the right degree he doesn't feel he missed anything - e.g., if I were in CIAS' shoes and Rangin had been manhandled more I could see wanting to have decided how he reacted (...now Graham can only dream he would have fought, justifying further escalating force...). As it is it seems like a good re-entry point.

    Of course if I were CIAS I would be sorely disappointed he doesn't return with Rangin standing over Graham's prone body because T'Var Vulcan nerve-pinched him from behind!
    Given their respective sizes and strengths there is pretty much nothing that Rangin could have done against Graham, other than obey what he says.

    However, I think I preferred my response to just having Graham unconscious on the floor, not that it wouldn't have been appreciated.

    I will say congrats to all around for the great scene though.
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    Damn. All our PCs in one room, and in prime conflict mode! (Well, except new-PC Nia; I'm not sure how she'll react to all this if she hears about it.) Rangin really ripped poor Kylah's heart out and also winged Collins and (naturally) Graham too. The scrappy Coridanite has plenty of bite in him.

    Quote Originally posted by anyrose View post
    Then Jeremi turns to see Kylah trying to stand and then falling to the floor. She rushes to help her roommate up then hears the girl's exclamation. Robbery. That makes sense, given the evidence. What the hell did she do? flash her jewelry around? In that part of town? Kylah's not dumb. She'd have known better. But why did she take it on shore leave? Why take all of it? Why take the zither? And what *did* happen to her uniform?
    Hee! Either Collins has developed the same amazing psi skills that Rangin has, or she's developed Character Knowing As Much As Her Player Syndrome (TM). Kylah didn't say anything aloud about her jewelry--she just said the words "they took all of it." Kylah could be talking about her laundry, or more presents, or a big box of chocolate truffles.

    I'll be curious to see if she changes her tune about Rangin when she hears the apparent evidence against him (grabbing Kylah, ominously saying "I didn't want it to be this way," Kylah accusing him of hurting her) and puts it together with his oddly distant/sketchy behavior--not reporting that he knows he was the last to see Kylah on the planet, claiming he didn't know anything about a sleazy bar, even his failure to visit Kylah for a while despite their having been... close, what with Collins now knowing Kylah bought the dress for him.

    CIAS, you've done a mighty good job at making Velir look as bad as possible, all the while being perfectly in character and believable. He's just... saying and doing everything wrong, mostly out of pride or fear of being hurt. What makes this delightfully ironic is that it's the same pride that keeps Kylah from being truthful with him, as well.

    Echoing his message above: well done, everyone! In addition to Velir's evisceration of Kylah and his understandably feeling victimized, there's Collins's berating of Graham (the "hat trick" line was great), Graham's single-minded determination to believe his eyes and ears (I mean, the guy may be wrong, but he has every reason to think what he does), and T'Var's cold order of Graham in an attempt to take control of the situation.
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    Quote Originally posted by choie View post
    Quote Originally posted by anyrose View post
    Then Jeremi turns to see Kylah trying to stand and then falling to the floor. She rushes to help her roommate up then hears the girl's exclamation. Robbery. That makes sense, given the evidence. What the hell did she do? flash her jewelry around? In that part of town? Kylah's not dumb. She'd have known better. But why did she take it on shore leave? Why take all of it? Why take the zither? And what *did* happen to her uniform?
    Hee! Either Collins has developed the same amazing psi skills that Rangin has, or she's developed Character Knowing As Much As Her Player Syndrome (TM). Kylah didn't say anything aloud about her jewelry--she just said the words "they took all of it." Kylah could be talking about her laundry, or more presents, or a big box of chocolate truffles.
    erp. oops.

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    Robbery. That makes sense, given the evidence. What did she have with her in that bag? Why did she take it on shore leave? It had to something more valuable than the zither or the robbers wouldn't have destroyed it, they'd have just taken it, too. Why take the zither on shore leave? And what *did* happen to her uniform?

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    Quote Originally posted by CatInASuit View post
    I will say congrats to all around for the great scene though.
    Quote Originally posted by choie View post
    Echoing his message above: well done, everyone! In addition to Velir's evisceration of Kylah and his understandably feeling victimized, there's Collins's berating of Graham (the "hat trick" line was great), Graham's single-minded determination to believe his eyes and ears (I mean, the guy may be wrong, but he has every reason to think what he does), and T'Var's cold order of Graham in an attempt to take control of the situation.
    I'd like to thank the Academy, my director, my family, the cast and crew, and of course the writers!
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    When EH gets back, he's gonna be like, "what the holy hell kind of clusterfuck just happened?!"

    Except he'll be more gentlemanly about it.

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    Yes indeed it is amazing how things could go soooo sideways without anyone taking some out-of-character action, but nope, everybody's entirely true to form...!

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    Just one big happy starship crew.

    Quote Originally posted by anyrose View post
    ...EH: Please edit that section of my post as follows....
    Done and done.

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    Quote Originally posted by WES View post
    Hi everybody. EH suggested I post this, so I will.

    The last day or two, I've been experiencing some sort of lag with the game thread. I'll post something, but it won't appear right away. When it does appear, it's much later in the thread. The post is definitely out of place. Also, earlier posts from all of you don't show up on my screen until much later. Any ideas as to what might be causing this? Anyone else having a similar issue?
    Thanks!
    I've also done a little bit of housekeeping on the site. Hopefully service will improve.
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    Hey EH, before you kvetch, I know Nia forgot and used "shift" instead of "watch." My bad!

    Speaking of watches, btw, what time is it, roughly speaking, in game-time? The shore leave was 4 hours, Kylah attacked roughly 1/2 hour after that, probably found twenty minutes later (or more?), and... after that I've lost track of time.

    Nia's been on watch since before our day began. When does Onn get off?*


    * Pun intended... as well as the innuendo, because it's Nia, after all.

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    Hmm. Maybe about 1430 ship's time - how's that sound?

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    Whoa, really? Of course it sounds fine with me... But boy, my guess was way off; for some reason I was picturing it nearly twilight when Kylah was looking for the starport. (Although time on Anubis may be different from shipboard time, right?)

    That means when Kylah & Rangin first got to the pub it must've been only 10am or so--actually, given how much time has passed since Kylah was first found, it must've been closer to 9. Yet all of our Starfleet officers were drinking! Plus it sounds as if Collins and Graham were talking about going to sleep, and Johnson felt he was already late getting to the galley for dinner.

    Clearly we all need better chronometers!

    Well, given that it's 2:30, what time would Nia (and the rest of the gang) be off duty?
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    How can it only be 2:30? It has to be at least 4:00 pm.

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    Ok - Arrival was on time at Anubis at 09:17 (#2) + a bit extra to go into orbit.
    Dr Brold is ready in five hours (#178)
    Four hours shore leave granted immediately (#180)

    Say shore leave starts at 09:30, it would end at 13:30.

    Kylah was given an extra half hour making it 14:00 when the alarm was raised about her being missing.

    Throw in an extra half hour for the searching, dealing with police in Thoth and Hathor, Kylah being rescued and operated on takes it to about 14:30 which matches up with Dr Brold being ready and the sensor array being beamed on board.

    At that point, Rangin goes across to meet the guests, Collins and Graham return - say half and hour or so - which puts the confrontation in Sickbay at about 1500.

    Does that sound reasonable?

    Damn, Kylah and Rangin were drinking early. Actually given what happened the night before, hair of the dog no doubt.
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    Okay. That works. Thank you.

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    Sounds good. Thanks.

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    Thanks for the research, CIAS! A half-hour isn't at all far from EH's original guestimate so it's all good.

    But is Anubis time different? The sky could be darker than mid-afternoon on the planet, right? She said hopefully?

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    Yes, it's already darker in Thoth, several posters have said (and I haven't contradicted them), so we'll go with that.

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    Cool, thanks. Seems more atmospheric somehow.

    Bennett turns around and rolls her eyes at the Sidonian officer's pun, then cannot help but chuckle.
    Interesting! Of course, she doesn't know what Russell proposed (unless Russell told her about it first), as Nia hasn't made the tablet's contents public. I guess she just gets a kick out of the word "intercourse." Or she's developed the same enhanced Knowledge (Meta) skill that Collins evinced earlier.

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    Quote Originally posted by choie View post
    Bennett turns around and rolls her eyes at the Sidonian officer's pun, then cannot help but chuckle.
    Interesting! Of course, she doesn't know what Russell proposed (unless Russell told her about it first), as Nia hasn't made the tablet's contents public. I guess she just gets a kick out of the word "intercourse." Or she's developed the same enhanced Knowledge (Meta) skill that Collins evinced earlier.
    Or Bennett just knows her colleague all too well.
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    Ha, quite possible!

    Y'know, the delicious irony of Rangin being a suspect is that he actually has the biggest responsibility for solving the case: not only did he find Kylah, he was also the one who picked up the DNA of one of the goons. But he has been doing a terrific job of acting guilty--I doubt anyone will be patting him on the back for his role in possibly saving Kylah's life and doing all the science-related scanning. He'll have Kylah's gratitude but, another irony, he probably doesn't want it. What a mess!

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    Quote Originally posted by anyrose View post
    "Yes, sir." Collins says to Vargas with a happy glint in her voice. This is the kind of security work she loves. Catching the bad guys. "Collins out." She taps the comm again "This is Lieutenant Collins. Please put me through to Detective Lunnd on Anubis." While she waits for the call to go through, she says into the comm "This is Collins. Lieutenant Jones and Ensign Rawlings, meet us in Transporter Room One, armed and ready."
    Collins has significantly upped her tact on this mission, I can imagine "Last Mission Collins" deciding the landing party will be her, Graham and Rangin...

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    Not after she saw Graham try to rip Rangin's head off his body. She'd have too much "paperwork" if one killed the other. She hates filling out reports and such.
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    Quote Originally posted by anyrose View post
    Not after she saw Graham try to rip Rangin's head off his body. She'd have too much "paperwork" if one killed the other. She hates filling out reports and such.
    Nice.

    So EH none of the Security folks are going to play along with the nascent Security / Not Security divide by patting Graham on the back?

    "By the way, nice work roughing up that Rangin guy, that'll teach other departments not to cross the Red Shirts! Boo Yah!"

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    Graham hasn't run into Russell or Harper yet. I'm sure they'd be happy to give him a friendly fist-bump, considering how they reacted after Rangin chided them once Kylah dressed them down for being inept. (Kjaerstad's probably a little disappointed he didn't get a chance to kick Kylah while she was down! )
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    And the chances of Graham being appreciative that Rangin hasn't completely dumped him in it? Nah, didn't think so.

    Then again, still waiting for Vargas to ask his security team about all the investigating they did
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    And the landing party is still waiting for the local LEO to say "GO!"

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    Quote Originally posted by Elendil's Heir View post
    Rangin almost bites his tongue, thinking, Graham's reason is likely to just be his hatred of me, but he will not stoop to Graham's level. He will stick to just what he knows.
    Mr. Rangin, please--don't be ridiculous." Graham explains. "My hatred of you is simply what made it so satisfying, not why I did it..."

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    For anyone who wants to learn more about Elasians, I offer this documentary, now available on YouTube:

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    (Awe-filled voice) The historical documents!

    (Boy I hope most of you get that reference...)

    Given the stardate, btw, that would have been about two years ago. Kylah was in the 2nd year of the Academy. Of course, she took time off to attend the wedding on Troyius.

    BTW, CIAS and I were literally just discussing how this episode highlights the difference between TOS and TNG. The morals of the TOS-era Federation are bizarre and somewhat hypocritical. They're against slavery but they completely enable the mistreatment of Elaan, who doesn't want to marry the prince of Troyius. Kirk knows Elaan loves him, but he doesn't really ever ask her "What do you want?" or anything.

    Compare this with the (very similar--in fact, suspiciously so!) The Perfect Mate episode, from the TNG era, where Kamala was being "given" from one planet to another yet again to create peace between previously warring planets. Like Elaan, she has a special natural ability that makes her the object of obsessive desire by men (I love the famous bit where Riker meets up with her, wipes his face, and then mutters that he'll be in the holodeck ). And, like Elaan, the Enterprise's captain captures her heart because he treats her differently (Picard treats Kamala with gentleness and respect; Kirk "tames" Elaan and drains out most of her fire). Both men are entranced in kind. They also know that their respective women do not love their intended spouses and are being forced to do this out of a sense of duty.

    The big difference? Picard objects to this pimping out of a woman and the denial of her free will, and tries to convince her to do what she wants. Kirk... doesn't.

    Of course in both cases there was no way the deal wasn't gonna go through. But the manner in which our protagonist reacts to this treatment of a woman as currency--in fact, even bringing up the subject that this is repugnant--is what makes The Perfect Gift a better and more touching episode, IMHO.

    But you gotta love the costumes in Elaan of Troyius. Every one is a marvel of defying gravity!
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    By Grabthar's hammer, of course I got the reference.

    BTW, those poor clueless censors "Are you out of your Vulcan mind?" I'll wager De had more fun with that line than any other in all of the three years

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    Also, in The Perfect Gift, Picard had to preside over the ceremony. Kirk just had to deliver the Dolman.

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    That's what made it sadder for poor Jean-Luc.

    And I never caught the soundalike reference there w/Bones's line! I wonder if they had to try a few times to make sure it wasn't too close!

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    The soundalike joke has gone over my head all these years, too. Nice one, ST:TOS writers!

    And yes, "The Perfect Mate" is a far better ep for all the reasons choie states. IIRC, though, Picard wasn't going to preside over the wedding ceremony; he just had to formally present Kamala to her aloof, uninterested new husband (not that that wasn't enough of an ordeal). I'd like to think that, in some alternate universe, Picard and Kamala were able to find happiness together after Alrik's death.

    Of course, Stewart and Janssen would later appear together in the X-Men movies.
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    So, are the cops going to take Lez down or are they waiting for something else?

    Don't tell me, Graham has decided to go all commando on him first.
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    Quote Originally posted by CatInASuit View post
    So, are the cops going to take Lez down or are they waiting for something else?

    Don't tell me, Graham has decided to go all commando on him first.
    Does "to go commando" mean the same thing in the UK as the US?

    Also, too, spellcheck keeps changing "Starfleet Security" to "Starlet Security" perhaps leading to Lez the thug complaining he was apprehended by Madonna's bodyguards or something...
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    Quote Originally posted by general_urko View post
    Quote Originally posted by CatInASuit View post
    So, are the cops going to take Lez down or are they waiting for something else?

    Don't tell me, Graham has decided to go all commando on him first.
    Does "to go commando" mean the same thing in the UK as the US?
    I seriously doubt it

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    We have a variety of meanings. I'll leave it as an exercise to work out which I mean
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    "Turnabout Intruder" was not a great TOS episode, but it was the last one. Check out the awesome remastered final view of the Enterprise at the conclusion (at 49:47):

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    Are you lot writing an all-action scene in the background showing Security turning into a full-on superheroes or something, yanno with quick cuts, strobe lighting, martial arts and general badassery

    And to think Rangin gave that up for paperwork.
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    I think "general badassery" is not part of the Yorktown security crew's collective character sheet.

    'Tis a month since Kylah's been sidelined by her assault, and ten days now since our intrepid landing party beamed down to the planet after learning a suspect's location and apparently right on his heels.

    Dang, I sure hope there's an awesome criminal-catching scene being written in the background because the suspense is killing me!

    Well, there's one thing I can do to pick up a dropped clue...

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