Good thing Graham will never have to worry about that.Originally posted by general_urko
Oh my, I guess that's the pain of being a sensitive, new age type of guy...
Good thing Graham will never have to worry about that.Oh my, I guess that's the pain of being a sensitive, new age type of guy...
Welcome back WES!
Verily, it's great to have you back!!!
LOL. Kylah was hoping T'Var would still be an NPC.
Heh. Oh believe me, I am very very very glad T'Var is no longer an NPC! In any event the person who inevitably asked all the annoying questions Kylah didn't want asked was Delaney!
Yes, welcome back, WES, indeed!
WES has been away? Who have I been losing to at chess for all this time?
Seriously, good to have you back WES
In the land of the blind, the one-arm man is king.
Thanks, everyone! I've missed being a part of the crew and look forward to the next mission.
I'm sure we've all heard about Leonard Nimoy's passing. For some reason 83 feels far too young to lose him. He always seemed so warm despite Spock's so-called emotionless presence. I'll also remember him from In Search Of..., which I actually saw more often in my youth than I did Star Trek. Plus his cameo in The Simpsons is short but hilarious.
In an interesting coincidence, the first obituary I read today happens to pick out his performance as Spock when affected the "aphrodesiacal spores" from This Side of Paradise.
A sad day.
Just heard about it now
Sad day indeed.
In the land of the blind, the one-arm man is king.
Leonard Nimoy has died, and may he rest in peace, knowing the pleasure and fascination he brought to so many millions over the years (and never being afraid to tweak his public image, ). I saw him at a Washington D.C. convention in 1987, and still fondly remember the experience.
But Spock will always live on somewhere in Star Trek lore.
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I can't believe he is gone. I got to watch him while he was directing a few scenes for Star Trek IV but missed out on meeting him. Spock was one of my inspirations. One of my heroes. My favorite character when I was a child.
Nimoy inspired me as an adult. I think part of my commitment to being a lifetime environmentalist was due to him. I loved his humor and thought he was easily the best actor of the Star Trek crew. Sadly I cannot say I loved his singing but otherwise I thought he was awesome and somehow Spock singing about Bilbo Baggins was awesome despite being the campiest thing ever.
Hi, What Exit?. Are you coming back, too? Will Delaney be a PC again? Please? We miss you.
(more PCs means more drama, and possibly a faster moving plot)
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Sorry, I often go days without checking the message boards lately. I don't have the time to rejoin or honestly much interest in it.
This is worth a read, too: http://www.buzzfeed.com/leonoraepste...cry#.pknxLnge1
Buzz Aldrin pays tribute to Leonard Nimoy: http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/27/opinio...ock/index.html
Very sad.
A statement by the President of the United States: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...-leonard-nimoy
...So let's raise a glass to the Thin Blue Line, ladies and gentlemen!
If I'm reading right, none of the screw-ups went in Graham's AMR? That's gonna be a pretty big omission when compared to Kylah's and, I believe, Rangin's AMRs. I wonder if Vargas (or Singh, assuming she's paying any attention to this mission) will have a conversation among the three of them. I also notice Graham doesn't actually mention the breakdown in command, aka disobeying orders, because hey, we're all professionals and What Happens in Security Stays in Security. Even though it's problematic for the big picture of improving how things run in Security, his behavior is really good characterization here--I totally buy this from Graham, a lifelong soldier/cop amalgam, so kudos, general!
Yipe! This is quite a curveball. Just what did Fastolfe tell this guy? Assuming it was Fastolfe. (I can also believe it of Adjetey. Or Jan if he's feeling vindictive enough.) Kylah's reputation is going to get even worse, if the Jan thing comes out, and now the lies about Fastolfe. And then there's Ferguson's hissy fit way back at the beginning where he accused Kylah of being a sex-starved stalker. Will that rear its ugly head too? Doesn't paint a good picture for Kylah. (Boy if anyone wanted her to change her AMR, one can make a good case that Kylah's own behavior both on this ship and during the mission is ripe for disciplinary action too.)
In other news... Damn, Collins goes all out with experimental food, while Cooper eats the blandest meal possible. If that's not a metaphor for two people who actually don't have much in common, I don't know what is!
Yeah. Collins mentioned sushi, and Ben said that sounded good to him. Very interesting.
dun...Dun...DUNNNNNNN!!!!
Is Mahmoud, Cooper?
Have we ever seen them in the same room at the same time or have we been infiltrated by Romulan spies who all read from the same phrasebook.
Sorry EH
In the land of the blind, the one-arm man is king.
Thanks, yeah this was an "easy" decision because it's totally what Graham would do - also, given that he once was a senior officer (at least when he's in form...) he's inclined to take responsibility for figuring out what's wrong and how to fix it rather than just reporting up the chain for somebody else to deal with....So let's raise a glass to the Thin Blue Line, ladies and gentlemen!
If I'm reading right, none of the screw-ups went in Graham's AMR? That's gonna be a pretty big omission when compared to Kylah's and, I believe, Rangin's AMRs. I wonder if Vargas (or Singh, assuming she's paying any attention to this mission) will have a conversation among the three of them. I also notice Graham doesn't actually mention the breakdown in command, aka disobeying orders, because hey, we're all professionals and What Happens in Security Stays in Security. Even though it's problematic for the big picture of improving how things run in Security, his behavior is really good characterization here--I totally buy this from Graham, a lifelong soldier/cop amalgam, so kudos, general!
Interestingly he didn't figure out what's wrong! Probably should've spoken to Kylah first and asked her to quantify the issues she had with security during her time as mission commander pro tem at the resort. I don't remember how much of the whole Kjaerstad-overriding-her-orders Graham even knows about. IIRC, all he knows is that Kylah was left alone to deal with Mrs. Hsu due to some miscommunication. He probably assumes it was her fault? It would be an understandable assumption given her usual lone-wolf status and also inexperience in such matters.
Anyway, it's telling that Graham seems to have taken Kjaerstad's grim look as a distaste for taking orders from Graham, whereas I'm pretty sure it was related to Kylah ripping into Security after all the gaffes. But maybe we'll explore that in the upcoming inevitable scene.
Speaking of which: I'm not sure, should I assume Graham has gotten in touch with Kylah, or do I need to wait for the Communications person to patch him through? I don't want to presume anything.
I wish I was as urbane and witty as Rangin
In the land of the blind, the one-arm man is king.
Do you have a perceptible English accent? That buys you a lot of perceived urbanity in the States. Even if you're just saying "blah blah blah" if you have a posh one.I wish I was as urbane and witty as Rangin
British accents are sexy
Seconded.
Yes indeed. Posh or not, northern or southern. And of course Rangin has an accent; his very vocabulary and phrasing reveal that underneath the Coridan exterior lies a British soul. I'm not sure I'd call him urbane, but he is witty!
BTW, anyrose, if Collins is about to take Cooper back for some (gentle) monkey sex, please have her contact Kylah beforehand, put a virtual sock on the virtual doorknob, or stick a Post-it note that says "if this cabin's rockin', don't come knockin'." If the experience w/Jan hasn't turned Kylah off romance already, walking in on her roommate in flagrante delicto might scar her for life. And Velir will never get lucky.
Collins may want to go back to Ben's cabin, or Ben may not want to get busy at all.
BTW - Limoncello Marscapone cake is TEH AWESOME YUM. I just had it the other day. It's not too sweet and not too tart and oh, so creamy.
Ben's roommate might object, assuming he has one. Where do people go to have sex in such cases? Any broom closets on board?
Interestingly timely article about miscarriages I just saw in my RSS feed.
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thanks (I think) that will help my roleplaying
You're welcome! Very coincidental timing. Collins seems to been on target with some of those responses (including the emotional reactions she showed yesterday). Looks like she could have an up-and-down journey. It's only been... what, three or four days, I think?
Let me work this out. Say the mission began on a Monday. The murder would've occurred late that night/early Tuesday morning; the miscarriage was later Tuesday morning, after which Graham became mission leader. Wednesday was pure investigation*, I think, and then Thursday we (well, Velir) caught Palver, came back, had our various emotional reunions and so on. Which would make today Friday.
* Except wait, that I think of it, I don't remember our going back to the lab station more than twice. If so, today is only Thursday.
But either way, only two or three days have passed since the murder, yipe!
The drug Collins was on could have masked an otherwise bi-polar personality
Last edited by anyrose; 04 Mar 2015 at 06:30 PM.
Possible, and that would be interesting albeit tough as hell to play! But I'm not sure you want something that major. We've been told that Kylah's merely having a single panic attack when being held captive, paralyzed and muted could have put her career at risk. So alas, I don't think a bipolar Collins would last very long. Especially since she's already gotten a pass for using drugs while on duty.
I like the TNG-era treatment of psychological issues much better. Barclay was transporter-phobic and addicted to holosuites and he was considered able to serve!
choie's OC3 timeline looks right to me - thanks.
Collins is not, as far as I'm concerned, bipolar, although she has... issues, as we all know. anyrose, if you want to discuss further this via PMs, let me know.
No, no. It was just a thought. Collins is Collins. No major changes to her persona as we know it.
You're welcome! I should hope it's right... I have this frikkin' thread so memorized and notated I could write a dossier on where everyone was and everything that happened, not to mention when. Sad but true.
And dayum, that's twice Cooper's negged Collins's food. I dunno, maybe a relationship can survive an unplanned pregnancy, differing choices on what to do with said unplanned pregnancy, and the tragic miscarriage thereafter. But his dissing her palate? That's a dealbreaker, ladies!
The accent is noticeably English. I can do posh as well. No, I will not be reading the phone book. Rangin also gets several re-writes to make him sound that spontaneous.
Kind of weird really, because when I'm reading through the thread, I don't really have any assigned voices or accents for the characters, other than possibly mid-atlantic drawl.
In the land of the blind, the one-arm man is king.
When I "read" Kylah, it's with a sort of... a very rounded, low voice. The female Inquisitor in the Dragon Age: Inquisition game is about right.
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How much clearer can I make it that Collins is from New England?
Oh that's funny, I could listen to my female Qunari DAI Inquisitor talk all day. Actually for all practical purposes on some Saturdays I suppose I have...
and here I "heard" her as more of Bernadette Rostankowski Walowitz
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COLLINS DID WHAT? I called you off? I don't remember that. I'll be back after I try to find it.
Yeah hon, she totally did.
And thank God she did! Oodles of juicy story would've been gone. (Although I'm sure EH could have contrived an obstacle for Graham, but still... I'm glad it was organic to Collins's personality instead. I think it was very much in her nature not to accept Graham's overprotective macho crap. Even though, of course, he was sorta right.)
Edited to add the links: See posts #1161 through #1170.
* More accurately, that she wasn't in the Nightclub where she was supposed to be, but instead was in a hotel room.
Edited again to add: Y'know, each time I read that Jan/Kylah sex scene, the worse Jan looks. I swear that when we were writing it, it was more ambiguous, but now it's very clear that Kylah was frozen with fear (as often happens in sexual assaults) and Jan literally acts "as if the passing seconds of her silence are an assent" by whipping off the rest of her clothes and penetrating her. Even without Kylah having been under the influence of the spores, it was obvious Kylah was neither ready nor willing. Jan is a sleaze stone-cold rapist.
Last edited by choie; 05 Mar 2015 at 07:45 PM. Reason: Because words mean things.
I found it. Yeah, Collins did. But then a very short while later sent two of the crew to check on Kylah. It wasn't that she wanted to leave Kylah twisting in the wind; she didn't think it was a good idea to have two crew members each off on their own.
Last edited by anyrose; 05 Mar 2015 at 08:49 PM.
Hell no, I never thought she wanted to leave Kylah in the lurch. She's not Kjaerstad.
Instead, Collins took the more appropriate gesture of actually trying to contact Kylah. IIRC it was only after Kylah didn't respond that Collins sent T'Var and Graham to hunt her down.
Of course by then, 'twas too late, and Kylah got out of the room herself as soon as she could. That was when she ran into T'Var and Graham.
Even now, Kylah wouldn't have wanted Collins to allow Graham to continue on his way there. Yes, she wishes things hadn't gone the way they did (hence her shock and conflicted feelings on learning that Graham was nearly there to stop things*). But she's ashamed that she needed to be saved; she still blames herself for not being able to get out of that situation herself, and for getting into it by making herself vulnerable to the spores/Jan's lusty feelings.
Thank goodness she's at least starting to realize Jan was "also" at fault. Hopefully someday she'll understand that aside from being somewhat irresponsible in sorta "tasting" the spores, she didn't do anything wrong.
* Given the timing, he wouldn't have gotten there soon enough. Jan worked fast.
Last edited by choie; 05 Mar 2015 at 09:19 PM. Reason: damnit to hell, SO CLOSE. But I forgot the asterisk.
IMO everyone behaved with sterling fidelity to their characters (...with knock-on effects that generate further hilarity trauma...):
Of course Graham's instinct was to go charging in guns blazing at the slightest hint of something off; at the same time there's no way he would disrespect Collins by disobeying, nor would he give her any grief about it afterward.
I think Collins was already a bit annoyed by Graham's earlier reckless / macho behavior...with reason.
And of course Kylah's mixed feelings are inscrutable to Graham.
Despite her caution, Collins barrels into a surprised Rangin, causing him to fly over a table in spectacular fashion and suffer a mild concussion along with great embarrassment.
C'mon EH, pretty please?
Hmm. Would this be a good time for the Captain to drop by for a snack...?
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