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Actually, it's because of Caruso that I don't watch CSI:Miami. The original and CSI:NY, sure, but not Miami. Don't. Like. David. Caruso. (But they do that "button" thing on the others)
I am looking forward to CSI:Cyber
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I may be thick (heaven forfend) but why does T'Var need to be told what happened? Hasn't Villa had her examined yet? Wouldn't the doc have filled her in by now?
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There's a difference between being officially briefed, and chatting with shipmates.
Oh I didn't realize. Thanks, EH.
I checked Memory Alpha. The level of control Palver exerted could only be done with a device. Even the Kelvans, whose control was the most advanced, had that belt with the button. The only other species I can think of with that kind of power, in TOS time, were the ones who forced Kirk and Uhura to kiss. Please correct me if I am wrong
I think having a device makes the most sense as well, and posited that either in the game thread via Kylah or possibly in a conversation here, but it never flew. We are to assume Palver's powers are natural, end of.
Truth is, previous GM fiat says anything he wants canon, is canon. So let it be written, so shall it be done.
If we learn anything from Star Trek, it's that something may be impossible only until it is shown to be possible.
There's really no in-character scenario I can think of now that would make Graham insist Kylah open his communicator and insister Kylha file her report on the Yorktown right now but all the lovey dovey stuff with Rangin makes it sorely tempting to do it anyway...*
* Now whether that's because it would surely trigger a literarily impressive Kylah is pissed scene or just f**** with Rangin, I'm not sure... maybe mostly the latter
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Okay. I have to ask, EH. If he wasn't going to accept Collins' invitation to talk, what was the significance of having Delaney enter the Mess just as she was leaving? I thought sure there was to be some interaction there.
Yeah, it was odd that Delaney enters the mess hall, then a second later says "Gotta go to engineering" and then leaves. So why'd he go to the mess hall in the first place? Curiouser and curiouser.
Run it by a proofreader?Originally posted by general_urko
If poor Graham feels like an idiot now, just imagine how he'll react when he belatedly realizes that he wrote his Lady Fair a note with her name spelled incorrectly.
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Good questions about Delaney. Inquire further of him, if your characters wish.
Heh. Y'know, I am on record--CIAS and general will vouch for me--as positing the notion that Delaney was the murderer. Admittedly, I had roughly seven plausible (using various definitions of "plausible") solutions to the crime. But Delaney as super-stealth nutcase murder was my favorite crackpot theory.
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1. I can indeed attest choie has long suspected Delaney.
2. And oh for the love of god--EH can attest that I have made that same mistake a dozen times before (in Pride & Prejudice the Bennets are Bennets with one "t")
1.I know the nuttiness of the theory should make me embarrassed, but since the mystery's presumably solved I might as well out myself as having some whack-job theories along the way.
2. I know, I know, I've been messing up too. What's worse is that the Bennett in this game has made me misspell the last name of Lizzie et al., which is a far more grievous sin.
But it did seem delicious that you spelled it correctly elsewhere in the same post--it was only in Graham's actual note, where it would be the most awkward for him, that her name got mangled! Poor Booker. Or should it be Bookerr?
Yes, our Bennett has two t's (the usual spelling); Jane Austen's had one. The navigator is inspired by two Keira Knightley characters - Cecilia Tallis in Atonement, and Elizabeth Bennet in Pride & Prejudice.
Let me get this straight, Graham is about to walk up to Bennett, a person he has only briefly met on a couple of occasions and is about to present her with a bottle of expensive perfume...
So Crazy in Love or just Crazy Stalker?
In the land of the blind, the one-arm man is king.
Way to poke the hornets' nest, Kylah!
Yeah, she's good at that. Wow, Jan is a raging asshat.
But I need to mention something because it's important, even though it was brought up in PM. EH chastised me for assuming Jan was still under the spore influence. Which normally would be fine--if Jan's no longer being "on the spores" was something unique. But EH gave the reason why he wasn't as "new introductions of the spores were suspended after Wilson's death." Implying that I should have remembered this, and I was politely reminded to limit my posts to Kylah's POV, etc. etc. Something I've done 99% of the time.
However, unless this is a new bombshell, Jan and all the other guests should still be under the influence (except Calvin, Fastolfe, Palver and Hardin, obviously). Jan was introduced a month ago (or whenever he arrived) and, even after Kylah's meeting w/him this a.m., he was never described as having lost the spores' effect. The crew was told that one introduction of the spores should last a guest's entire stay, and that almost no one ever needed "boosters" (which was why Calvin, Fastolfe, Palver and Hardin all losing the spore effects at once was so noteworthy, remember?).
I'm asking in public so that we can all be aware if we've been operating on the wrong assumption. Are all the guests no longer under the influence? Or maybe I'm the only one who was under this impression?
OTOH, if Jan's no longer being under the influence is a glitch in the Matrix (i.e. a GM mistake), can it be edited out please? Or do you want me to run with this? Because if left as-is, it's opening up a big new possible factor to the mystery. I don't want to get side-tracked unless it's intentional.
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I was going on the theory that Palver's mind control ability had cleansed everyone, except the few he chose, from the spores. But, yeah, it's like Agatha Christie introducing new characters in the penultimate chapter of the book.
Who are Jan's companions?
WTF is bothering Delaney?
When we asked Halsey if anyone else had complained of losing the spores' effects, he said nope. If everyone in the resort but two or three people, I'm pretty sure that would've caused a pretty big freakin' uproar by now!
Delaney's behavior might be a setup for next mission. Or, possibly, he's upset that he was left down on the planet without anyone noticing!But, yeah, it's like Agatha Christie introducing new characters in the penultimate chapter of the book.
Who are Jan's companions?
WTF is bothering Delaney?
But yeah, I'm curious about the almost-twins Jan is now running around with, and why one of them looked at Kylah all weirdly. Is this some implication that they're... y'know... Jan's sex partners? Has Jan turned into Fastolfe-Lite? I mean hey, if he's bi, that's fine, but it's pretty new information to spring on us at the last minute.
I can't buy the idea that Jan lost the spores' influence during the scene where mean ol' Kylah hurt his widdle feelings by letting him know he'd had sex without her ever consenting. Because if that had caused him to lose the spore effect, EH surely would have mentioned it in the scene at the time, no? Kylah would've noticed it.
To the contrary, by the end of the scene Jan was back to his being all courtly and romantic (uh, depending on your definition of that), and his last words to her were, effectively: "Ah, dear Kylah, I hold out hope that you'll contact me and that we may start anew, because I could fall in love with you... and I'm sure once you get over this silly little hissy fit, you'll remember how well I sexed you up..."
For the record, this is Kylah/Jan's last exchange:
So by the end of the scene he was back to normal Suave Gentleman Scumbag Jan, hoping to win the love of the woman he basically raped. He was still holding out hope for a reconciliation. Kylah bent over backward (way too far, IMHO) to grant him the benefit of the doubt for how he behaved, and even praised him for being so noble as to not get defensive or upset. So why is he now sporeless and rewriting history?
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Losing spore effects requires a reason, especially a highly emotional one. He didn't have a transporter signal in his room as Rangin checked all over. Umm, that makes him a suspect, unless he can produce a good reason for such a shock.
I really hope Jan has no spores.
It would give Rangin the perfect reason to contact Graham right as he is talking to Bennett in the arboretum and is dragged down to OCIII to investigate another suspect. If Rangin makes him really mad, I wonder if Rangin could get him to pull Jan out of the restaurant for a quiet chat in full view of everyone
In the land of the blind, the one-arm man is king.
Oh sure mock the temperamental goon when its convenient, but trot him out when he's useful...It would give Rangin the perfect reason to contact Graham right as he is talking to Bennett in the arboretum and is dragged down to OCIII to investigate another suspect. If Rangin makes him really mad, I wonder if Rangin could get him to pull Jan out of the restaurant for a quiet chat in full view of everyone
The more I read Jan's lines, the more I see a manipulative, entitled brat who dresses up his selfish behavior with gentility. Look how he revises history in order to make Kylah appear as if she unfairly cut him off and refused to talk to him further during their brunch--when, as you see, they left things with Kylah praising him to the skies simply for not calling him a whore, and Jan still hopeful that he could still "win her love" (gag). And similar revisionism is going on when he describes Velir as "accosting him" in the nightclub. WTF, Jan came over to them! Sure, Velir did ask some amusingly inappropriate question about whether Kylah should see a doctor, but it wasn't even accusatory, much less aggressive. And five minutes later, when Velir did go up to Jan, all he did was abjectly beg Jan's pardon for being offensive. That's "accosting" in Jan's POV?
Schmuck.
I'm just waiting to see if EH will confirm whether the no-spores thing is intentional or a simple error. If it's a mistake, no biggie. If it's not, Kylah needs to react accordingly.
As far as whether it has any implications for the murder... well, I doubt it, although he was mighty relieved to find out the investigation was over.
Some time ago, (at least I thought I did) I said it's Murder on the Orient Express, they all did it.
eta - okay choie said it in July, but I've been thinking it.
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Jan is indeed no longer under the spores' influence.
choie, please do not bring things into discussion here in the setup thread that I raise in PMs. If I wished them to be under discussion generally, I would do so myself. That is why I chose to contact you with a PM. Thanks.
Sorry. You gave me no information in the PM that wasn't in the game thread, except the "bad girl choie, stick to Kylah's POV" part, so I didn't think it was a secret. I certainly don't care that people know I allegedly made an error. I'm pretty good at acknowledging my own errors. As someone wise once said, mistakes were made. I'm ready to move on.
You may be ready to move on, choie, but obviously Kylah isn't.
Hey if she's given something to run with, she's running with it--head on into a brick wall, usually, but that's the kinda gal she is.
One of our few similarities aside from eye color.
Jesus wept.
Grief - looks like we finally got the reveal of the true villain of this mission like the innards of a sea-slug vomited out in fear.
He doesn't want to see Kylah or Rangin again, because it reminds me him he's a rapist! He doesn't like the person he was under the spores, so he's going to don his hairshirt and roll out "woe is me" to anyone who will listen. Sorry, really is the hardest word. I mean talk about blaming anything else instead of accepting responsibility for his actions. Admit a mistake, him, never!!!
He really is no gentleman (or bon-vivant for that matter).
In the land of the blind, the one-arm man is king.
Reminds me of someone IRL I had to stop being friends with.
If Graham wasn't oblivious to all of this on the ship it would create quite the dilemma between whether his guilt over not proceeding on to the hotel against Collins' order precipitates more angst and self-destructive behavior or more of a desire to kill Jan... *whew*
Ooooh!
In the interview, Nichols retells the story of meeting “her greatest fan” for the first time, soon after the first season of Star Trek aired. The year was likely 1967. At the time, she was contemplating leaving the show, but then, at a NAACP fundraiser in Beverly Hills, a man with a big smile approached her and said, “Ms. Nichols, I am your greatest fan.”
That man was Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'
Link: http://fusion.net/story/50746/surpri...was-a-trekkie/
Apologies but muse is on the blink.
In the land of the blind, the one-arm man is king.
No problem. Hope she drops by soon!
(insert dramatic chord here) The romance is over before it can even begin (cut to commercial)
You'd be amazed how useful this can be: http://www.dramabutton.com/
Many long plane rides...so some new Apocrypha
Thanks, general! Graham's had quite a career.
Oh, for ... ! Jeremi and Booker are going to send Kylah and Velir to Sex Box on WE TV.
"We gotta get those two kids together, Booker!"
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Holy shit, that's a real thing? Well, it's official. Civilization is heading straight to its nadir, express route, no stops. All that's left is "Death Box."
WE TV stole it from British TV where things like that are commonplace. Americanizations of British properties rarely make it past one or two seasons, so don't worry. It'll be gone soon.
LOL. I read that as "sex bot" and thought it was some kind of Futurama gag.
Yeah, that one is all our fault, Channel four at its finest. I wouldn't worry, you see nothing apart from a pair of slightly tired people being quizzed over how they feel having just had sex.
It's just a bit awkward and dull, really.
In the land of the blind, the one-arm man is king.
Oh my, I guess that's the pain of being a sensitive, new age type of guy...
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