Connect Santa Claus and Middle-earth (or, another insane Tolkien thread)

[Skald the Rhymer]

I thought about putting my usual insanely detailed justification, but I got bored in the middle of the paragraph and said fuck that shit. I must be getting old.

Anyway...connect old Kris Kringle with the Greater Perfesser's elves. Or, if you prefer, you can link Rudolph & the other reindeer to the kine of Aman. Whatever floats your boat.

[What Exit?]

Well right off the bat, don't think Santa's Elves are the Elves of Middle-Earth. It should be obvious that it is actually a small group of Dwarven Toy smiths.

As to Santa, he is surely a minor Maia and well adjusted to the Northern Ice Sheet. He is probably the patron of the Snowmen of Forochel. I wonder though if he was of Aulë's people or perhaps Oromë 's.

Keep in mind that we already know that Father Christmas wanders around Narnia and it should not be a big surprise to find him in Middle-Earth either. Indeed, Tolkien wrote of Father Christmas's fights vs. the Goblins and this leads even more the idea of the "Santa Elves" really being Dwarves.

[Orual]

Santa is definitely either a Maia of Aulë, or an avatar of Aulë himself.

[What Exit?]

Santa is definitely either a Maia of Aulë, or an avatar of Aulë himself.

I like the avatar of Aulë idea. It would also explain the Dwarves labor of love for him even better.

[Skald the Rhymer]

I like the avatar of Aulë idea. It would also explain the Dwarves labor of love for him even better.

I am saddened to inform you that the Dwarves are long extinct; they did not survive the Deluge. Santa's helpers are obviously periannath.

[Orual]

Santa's helpers are obviously periannath.

Unlikely. They are not so joyfully tinkering as dwarves. And I never got the impression that halflings are too fond of the cold.

[Nrblex]

Do dwarves like the cold?

Will the rest of this thread eventually make sense to me?

[Orual]

Do dwarves like the cold?

Will the rest of this thread eventually make sense to me?

I think dwarves do better in the cold than hobbits.

You might have to read the Silmarillion to 'get' this thread. Only you can decide whether such an effort is worth it.

[eleanorigby]

Why can't they be some offshoot of the Hobbits? Santa's elves are jolly, like to eat, play and smoke pipes, wear weird clothes etc. They seem natural as Hobbits--of course, given the colder climate they find themselves in, they have adjusted to wearing shoes, but even those have long curly ends, to make room for their Hobbit feet...


I have no explanation for reindeer, but there may be some data in His Dark Materials....