J Word - Burn in hell, you smarmy bastard

Unfortunately, all of this went down in Chat, and the Chat logs were recently wiped. So for some of this, I will need to use my own memory.

Incident the First: Several months ago in chat, after I had defended The J Word from snarkiness from hates freedom, you started calling me a moron and saying I was the stupidest person here. I thought that was a bit harsh, but eveyone's entitled to an opionion, right?

Incident the Second: Read from the bottom up. Once again, hates and this time Exy are poking at you, and I am defending you. The bolded line and all that follows is the thanks I get.

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« Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:12 pm » Goodnight y'all.

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:11 pm » M, you are as dumb as a sack of tacos.

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:11 pm » I can't take this anymore.

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:11 pm » M, the point is i find you being STUPIDER than eveyrone else. Don't you see that you fool? You arent the same as eveyrone else. You are saying things which are much more moronic.

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:11 pm » Also - sarcasm. Learn to detect it.

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:10 pm » If you wre 12-16, i'd let it go.

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:10 pm » So why are you focused on my stupidity? Since I have been saying the same things as other people, I was wondering what it is that makes me in particular so deserving of your interest.

hatesfreedom « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:10 pm » welcoem to the suck

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:10 pm » And you say stupid stuff and it makes smarter people question it.

hatesfreedom « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:10 pm » yah exy right

Excalibur « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:10 pm » You're in chat often enough that everyone knows you.

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:09 pm » Why did you bring up other people? I didnt.

Excalibur « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:09 pm » Your presence mostly.

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:09 pm » *sigh* I'm not comparing you to anyone else.

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:09 pm » Exy, what is it about me that draws these fuckers?

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:08 pm » What have I said that is any different from what anyone else has said?

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:08 pm » Ok M, we both know i never said it. Too amny times tonight i've let go any moronic thing you've said.

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:07 pm » SDMB?

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:07 pm » Which I can't be fucked about because I do not care what you think.

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:07 pm » Who is Badtz?

Excalibur « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:07 pm » It's that same mixture of hostile shit-stirring and genuine-seeming butthurtedness that characterizes Badtz

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:07 pm » If I tell you, that puts me in the position of trying to prove something to you.

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:07 pm » M, can you popint out where i said "I dont understand you, so you are stupid"? which is what you said?

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:06 pm » I don't need anyone to get involved.

hatesfreedom « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:06 pm » i'm not gettin involved unless i get promised pics of handstands

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:06 pm » I do not owe you the knowledge of how old I am or where I live.

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:05 pm » You always create these strawman arguements

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:05 pm » M, i never said you owe me anything, you idiot.

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:05 pm » I owe you nothing.

Excalibur « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:05 pm » He's probably yet another Badtz.

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:05 pm » lol

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:05 pm » I don't mind people knowing either of those things, but I don't respond to fuckers trying to put me on the spot.

Excalibur « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:05 pm » See?

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:05 pm » Once again you miss the point. I didnt say that.

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:04 pm » So because you don't understand me, I am stupid?

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:04 pm » Can i ask how old you are, and where you live?

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:04 pm » I know you are not.

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:04 pm » You really don't make too much sense

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:04 pm » Im not jokine M.

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:03 pm » maybe Vox, but he's not stupid, he's just naive.

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:03 pm » haha oh snap J

hatesfreedom « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:03 pm » you can just use water for your mangina

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:03 pm » Myrnalene, i honestly fine you the stupidest person i've spoken
to in chat.

hatesfreedom « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:03 pm » nobody uses douches anymore dummy!

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:03 pm » No, we are honestly quite enamored of him

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:03 pm » although i generally find him to be a douche

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:03 pm » We call those folks morons

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:03 pm » Some people think he is

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:03 pm » unless im being taken for a ride and you're all being sarcastic?

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:02 pm » maybe i've read here or on snark that he was a pain in the arse

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:02 pm » II apologise, i thought he was

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:02 pm » I may be an arsehole, but im only one arsehole at a time (and i only change holes because i got banned)

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:02 pm » pistols at dawn, sur!

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:01 pm » I've told you guys my previoussock accounts on SDMB

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:01 pm » What, me being a sock?

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:01 pm » I don't think he is

Excalibur « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:01 pm » Myrna: He has to be. He sounds exactly the same as all those other dumb concern troll socks that were here earlier.

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:00 pm » Although no message board really treats any sort of troll in the way theys hould

hatesfreedom « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:00 pm » fucking banker

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:00 pm » Also - hates has been a prick to him, so I can dig it

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:00 pm » I really don't know what to say

hatesfreedom « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:00 pm » its the sock of a straight man pretending to be a gay man, pretending to be a banker

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:00 pm » he's not, Exy

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:59 am » *sigh*

hatesfreedom « Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:59 am » i'm melting..

Excalibur « Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:59 am » Seriously, J Word, whose retard sock are you?

hatesfreedom « Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:59 am » noooooooooooooooooooooooo

hatesfreedom « Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:59 am » no

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:59 am » fair enough

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:59 am » J Word, we all heart hatesfreedom

Excalibur « Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:59 am » Is J Word whining about hates now?

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:58 am » and loving doing it

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:58 am » hatesfreedom is brinigng you all grief

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:58 am » I didnt say that

Myrnalene « Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:58 am » or do you mean hates? he's not a troll either

hatesfreedom « Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:58 am » J word, don't make me take your flipflops

The J Word « Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:58 am » Seriously, why do you guys continue to respond to the troll?

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There must have been an Incident 3 after that bizarre encounter, even though I have forgotten it. I expect it was more of the same because on Jun 27 I received this PM from you:

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May i just say, i want to apologise for the way i acted in chat last night.
I had been drinking a bit, and i think i was egged on by Exy's character as a whole.

I don't know what else to say but I'm sorry for any harsh words i said against you and I'm hoping you can forgive me for acting like such a pig.

J

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To which I responded:

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J, I accept your apology.

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You were traveling in Europe at the time, something that I am very interested in. So every time you came into chat I greeted you in a friendly manner and asked about your travels. More fool me.

I don't have a record of Incident 4, and the chat logs have been wiped, but Zuul, pepperlandgirl, What Exit?, binks and Exy were all in chat when you came in, drunk again and started singling me out with personal attacks. I can't remember specifics, but you called me "Moron" several times, again said that I was stupid, a whore and a cunt. I had said nothing to you to provoke this response. You left chat several times and then came back and started again. It was so bad that everyone in chat took note of it. binks and Exy wanted you put in Room 101, and you did draw a "mod note" from Jim. Jim said that since he had not been in chat during the prior incidents and I had not reported it, he did not have a record of your misbehavoir and so did not feel a stint in Room 101 was appropriate at the time. He asked me to report it the next time it happened, and you would get a warning and a sentence in Room 101. I want to note that you finished that conversation by slobbering all over me asking me to accept your apology, which I refused to do again. You eventually went to bed, pouting that no one would talk to your drunken pissy ass.

Incident 5: This morning, in chat. I say (and Exy agrees) you called me a moron (really "The Moron") again. I closed the window so I don't have the logs but I know Jim does. Jim disagrees that you did. featherlou doesn't seem to give a shit either way. Frankly, I can handle some rough play, if this was the first time from you I woudn't have thought anything of it. But I am sick sick sick of you treating me in a shitty way that you seem to reserve only for me. Minutes before you posted the "Moron" comment, we were all discussing your ideas about what about Domebo "doesn't work" (specifically our forum titles). We were all disagreeing with you politely, but I am the only one who was told to "don't start with me, M."

Also, I'm pretty put out that Jim's response to this was to threaten to put Exy and I in Room 101. He asked me to report it next time, I reported it, I got told to shut up or I would be punished. So thanks for that, Jim. You know, I don't go around here accusing people of harrassing me so it would have been nice if you would have believed me, maybe given the benefit of the doubt to me instead of someone you had seen acting in this same shitty way before.

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^^^^ I aim to please.

Uh, I don't think this thread was a great idea. But I will confirm that -- while he did not outright say "Myrnalene, you are a moron" -- when he said something about "The Moron", it was undeniably in reference to you.

What you think you're going to get out of this thread, though, I have no idea.

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Originally posted by Excalibur

Uh, I don't think this thread was a great idea. But I will confirm that -- while he did not outright say "Myrnalene, you are a moron" -- when he said something about "The Moron", it was undeniably in reference to you.

What you think you're going to get out of this thread, though, I have no idea.

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What made me do it was his continued "what me" responses in chat this morning, acting like he didn't know what I was talking about when I said he had did this before. I don't know if he's a blackout drinker or what. I was surprised when I thought about it and realized this was the fifth time. And that he has the balls to say this:

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The J Word « Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:49 am » You've been very rude to me

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I also think it's interesting that one of the only rules in the Thunderdome is against repeated harrassment or stalking, but when it actually happens no one wants to deal with it.

Below in Microprint is the fuller chat log of the loud argument.
Here is snippet surrounding the "Moron"

16:07:43 Myrnalene don't start disagreeing with you? if you post something in a public place I will respond if I please
16:07:44 Excalibur No, The Guggenheim is clearly a better name than "Arts & Entertainment".
16:08:02 Excalibur "Jibba Jabba" is pretty stupid though.
16:08:08 What Exit? Crucible was a fair alternative to Great Debates or Debates. What do you suggest as those were kind of out.
16:08:11 featherlou I think the defense for The Crucible is that is was the winner of the thread.
16:08:20 The J Word You've missed my point. My point was, this is a board practically named after the dope, yet so much effort was taken in to making sure the board names were SO different from the dopes.
16:08:37 What Exit? I still liked "Everyone has got one"
16:08:44 The J Word Not to mention that this place doesnt really have the members, or amount of posts to support as many boards.
16:09:09 featherlou I don't know what your point is, J Word - we were advised to not have the same titles as the Dope for legal reasons, so we changed them.
16:09:29 What Exit? J, the first 2 days, the forums were mainly copies of the Dopes' names. We were advised to change them as in advised legally.
16:09:32 featherlou When we started here, we came here with the idea that we WOULD be like the Dope, except not as stupid.
16:09:33 hatesfreedom lol legal reasons.
16:09:42 What Exit? I don't recall the details, I was not staff yet.
16:09:53 featherlou Same Dope, less Ed Zotti and Tuba.
16:10:07 The J Word I'm saying, Domebo wasn't going to get sued. Different names were good, stupid names were... stupid.
16:10:30 featherlou I don't think the names of the forums are a big deal.
16:10:33 The J Word or does SDMB have the rights to "Great Debates"?
16:10:43 featherlou THey might, for all we know.
16:10:45 The J Word Nor does the Moron
16:10:50 hatesfreedom SDMB doesn't have any rights at all
16:10:57 The J Word exactly
16:11:10 hatesfreedom unless you somehow start making a profit with their name you're fine
16:11:44 The J Word And unless the dope INVENTED THOSE NAMES

I see no way that it was obviously pointed at Myrna, in fact it does not appear to pointed at Myrna at all as he was talking to Feather & I about the legal rights to the forum names. I also don't think I deserve the abuse I took from Myrna and Exy.

15:50:26 What Exit? One point I think Clayton made that rang true, we need to finish the header changes and lose green dome at the top. We look very unfinished. Maybe it is time for a new contest with someone will to send the artwork over to CRSP immediately.
15:50:44 The J Word I agree. The banner here isn't the best.
15:51:03 The J Word Although i kinda think this place is gonna "bite the dust". I doubt it's gonna grow.
15:51:43 Myrnalene yeah, elmwood said in ADF that we look half -finished and he's totally right
15:52:09 The J Word Domebo will evolve, but it won't grow.
15:52:15 featherlou Yeah, I suppose. I don't even notice it any longer. I don't see the green guy, though.
15:52:55 AllWalker dammit
15:53:07 What Exit? Well, I am a known hater of Dome the green dude and the other three skins have no changes.
15:53:33 AllWalker i'm trying to think of a goal i have set out to accomplish, and succeeded
15:53:39 The J Word I'm a known hater of all the board names here.
15:53:40 What Exit? We need one basic header and need to get it into all 4 skins.
15:54:14 What Exit? Dome needs at least a color matching if he is going to stay.
15:54:15 AllWalker we can't change the board names, cos then my terroroist attack will be obsolete
15:54:53 featherlou Why don't we just change it to Dumbo and be done with it? Elephant themes, here we come!
15:55:08 AllWalker no dumbo
15:55:15 The J Word I think Domebo's problem is it tried too hard in the beginning to be 'oh so different'
15:55:25 The J Word Now it has kind of come 2nd in the splinter board race.
15:55:26 featherlou I pushed for a name change right from the start - Domebo is a stupid name.
15:55:44 The J Word amen
15:55:59 featherlou The two boards are different, though, and I appreciate both of them.
15:56:14 AllWalker all right, this discussion is bumming me out and i need to think - i might log back in later
15:56:15 The J Word Lets call ourself "DOpers MEssage BOard" but try to be as different to SDMB as we can!
15:56:23 featherlou The difference is that GB is Giraffe's project, and he is making things happen there.
15:56:27 The J Word Take care, Walker.
15:56:35 featherlou Bye Walker.
15:56:52 AllWalker cheers guys, see you
15:56:54 featherlou We're more of a committee project, with all the negatives that entails.
15:56:56 What Exit? Later Walker
15:57:52 featherlou Everyone has a voice, but on the down side, everyone has a voice.
15:57:56 Skald the Rhymer so you think we need a cruel overlord with an burning lash and iron hand, flou?
15:58:05 What Exit? I'm OK with most of the forum names. The Guggenheim is a little odd, but the descriptions are what really matter.
15:58:06 The J Word that's my review about xtube.
15:58:14 The J Word It's great cos it has everything, but its bad cos it has EVERYTHING.
15:58:20 featherlou Um, not quite, Skaldy.
15:58:41 Myrnalene

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We're more of a committee project, with all the negatives that entails.

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exactly
15:58:54 featherlou I sort of like how we're running things, but it has downsides that committees will always have.
15:59:03 The J Word The forum names are one example of trying way too hard to be individual from the SDMB
15:59:12 The J Word while still following the same formula.
15:59:27 featherlou I don't disagree.
15:59:30 The J Word X = 2y? Awesome, how about 2a = 4b?
15:59:39 featherlou The contraction was a good thing.
16:00:13 What Exit? Then there was that bad case of cancer we had.
16:00:17 The J Word The fact is, one splinter board is Blu Ray, and one is HD-DVD.
16:00:33 The J Word although not so severe.
16:00:49 The J Word DVD is still here to stay, and HD-DVD is gonna have some underground following.
16:00:50 Myrnalene I guess I can see how Domebo isn't the best name, but I will call this board Dumbo no matter what happens. It's a term of endearment. I AM A PROUD DUMBO! *sniff*
16:01:10 Myrnalene

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Then there was that bad case of cancer we had.

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16:01:28 featherlou I think we needed to change it right at the start, though; that ship has sailed and I have moved one.
16:01:29 featherlou on
16:01:42 The J Word Yeah
16:02:03 What Exit? I wonder if CRSP might wander in, he just posted in the shoe thread.
16:02:04 The J Word As i've said before, mos tthings that are wrong with this place, are clear, and on the surface.
16:02:38 featherlou But we don't want to be completely different from the Dope; there were very good things about the Dope.
16:02:51 The J Word i agree
16:02:54 featherlou We don't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
16:03:05 The J Word But trying so hard to be unique with forum names was just sillyt
16:03:06 The J Word *silly
16:04:07 The J Word Pretend you've never seen SDMB, GB and Domebo before. Then you see all the board headings.. which place looks like a joke?
16:04:08 Myrnalene I don't see anything wrong with the forum names at all
16:04:21 What Exit? We had to change the forum names, we were advised to. It was not to be different.
16:04:44 The J Word I didnt say you should copy SDMB
16:04:46 What Exit? The fact the forums paralleled the Dope is another story.
16:04:51 The J Word But ridiculous names for the sake of it?
16:04:55 featherlou Nah, I like the forum names. THey are properly descriptive.
16:05:29 featherlou We're not really aiming for people who don't know what a Guggenheim is.
16:05:31 What Exit? Guggy is a little odd. But nothing I worry about.
16:05:31 The J Word "The Crucible" vs "Great Debates" vs "Politics Philosophy & Religion"
16:05:55 Excalibur :: carefully notes down J Word's advice so that we can get more users just like him ::
16:05:59 What Exit? A&E would have been better I guess.
16:06:02 The J Word "Arts & Entertainment" vs "The Guggenheim"
16:06:11 featherlou I LOVE the name Jibba Jabba. Infinitely better than MPSIMS.
16:06:15 What Exit? Hah
16:06:20 Myrnalene how is The Guggenheim more ridiculous that Cafe Society? you are reaching
16:06:24 What Exit? Jibba Jabba is good.
16:06:35 The J Word Don't start, M.
16:06:48 What Exit? He is right though to some degree. Arts & Entertainment would be the best.
16:06:51 The J Word I also hate Cafe Society AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE
16:07:02 Myrnalene We obviously have problems but I forum titles aren't where those lie
16:07:10 The J Word Anyone wanna defend The Crucible?
16:07:19 What Exit? Games and Sports is fine. If the board was much bigger, I would split them, but we are not.
16:07:25 featherlou I could agree with the idea that we need to not just be a copy of the Dope, but I think there are only so many general categories for discussions.
16:07:43 Myrnalene don't start disagreeing with you? if you post something in a public place I will respond if I please
16:07:44 Excalibur No, The Guggenheim is clearly a better name than "Arts & Entertainment".
16:08:02 Excalibur "Jibba Jabba" is pretty stupid though.
16:08:08 What Exit? Crucible was a fair alternative to Great Debates or Debates. What do you suggest as those were kind of out.
16:08:11 featherlou I think the defense for The Crucible is that is was the winner of the thread.
16:08:20 The J Word You've missed my point. My point was, this is a board practically named after the dope, yet so much effort was taken in to making sure the board names were SO different from the dopes.
16:08:37 What Exit? I still liked "Everyone has got one"
16:08:44 The J Word Not to mention that this place doesnt really have the members, or amount of posts to support as many boards.
16:09:09 featherlou I don't know what your point is, J Word - we were advised to not have the same titles as the Dope for legal reasons, so we changed them.
16:09:29 What Exit? J, the first 2 days, the forums were mainly copies of the Dopes' names. We were advised to change them as in advised legally.
16:09:32 featherlou When we started here, we came here with the idea that we WOULD be like the Dope, except not as stupid.
16:09:33 hatesfreedom lol legal reasons.
16:09:42 What Exit? I don't recall the details, I was not staff yet.
16:09:53 featherlou Same Dope, less Ed Zotti and Tuba.
16:10:07 The J Word I'm saying, Domebo wasn't going to get sued. Different names were good, stupid names were... stupid.
16:10:30 featherlou I don't think the names of the forums are a big deal.
16:10:33 The J Word or does SDMB have the rights to "Great Debates"?
16:10:43 featherlou THey might, for all we know.
16:10:45 The J Word Nor does the Moron
16:10:50 hatesfreedom SDMB doesn't have any rights at all
16:10:57 The J Word exactly
16:11:10 hatesfreedom unless you somehow start making a profit with their name you're fine
16:11:44 The J Word And unless the dope INVENTED THOSE NAMES
16:11:51 What Exit? No, same Dope, Less Ed, Lynn and Tom. (see everyone had different ideas)
16:12:28 featherlou But I think we're arguing over the colour of the drapes.
16:12:39 Myrnalene

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Nor does the Moron

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stick this fucker in Room 101 now, please
16:12:51 featherlou WHat are the fixable problems you see other than forum names, J Word?
16:13:24 The J Word I never mentioned "fixable" problems.
16:13:47 The J Word This place won't grow substantially.
16:13:51 The J Word It just wont.
16:14:11 Excalibur Why are you people even talking to this guy? All he does is whine and troll, do you think he's going to change?
16:14:21 The J Word Ditto.
16:14:44 What Exit? Having a calm conversation with J Word, why are you upset by it?
16:15:02 Excalibur It's sort of embarrassing just sharing a message board with people dumb enough to talk to people like the J Word.
16:15:02 featherlou I have no interest in changing J Word; I was just interested in what he sees as the problems with Domebo.
16:15:08 The J Word He's trolled me before, Exit
16:15:20 hatesfreedom how come some girls squirt out their vaginas and others don't
16:15:31 featherlou If you don't like our discussion, Exy, why don't you come back when it's over?
16:15:38 The J Word Exy if you aren't trolling me, and you really feel that bad about "sharing a message board" with me, you coudl just leave us?
16:15:52 Excalibur He's a professional malcontent, Featherlou. He sees whatever "problems" he thinks will make you upset.
16:15:59 hatesfreedom pft fine i'll ask google
16:16:07 featherlou
16:16:16 featherlou He's got a long way to go before I'm upset.
16:16:22 Myrnalene Jim, hello? What do I have to do here? He just called me the Moron for no godamn reason and it the 3rd or 4th time he's attacked me out of nowhere
16:16:24 What Exit? I don't see anything he said in this chat session that would upset anyone.
16:16:25 The J Word lol
16:16:35 What Exit? When did he call you a moron?
16:16:37 The J Word Exy, you weren't even involved in the convo
16:16:40 Myrnalene you told me to report it next time WELL I AM FUCKING REPORTING IT
16:16:47 hatesfreedom when did we start sending people to 101 for calling you a moron
16:16:59 The J Word Report what???
16:17:11 The J Word and when was the last time i called you a moron?
16:17:17 What Exit? I don't see that he called you a moron.
16:17:34 The J Word Are you two in cahoots or the same person?
16:17:49 What Exit? I think he called Ed Zotti a moron, but I am not even sure of that.
16:17:49 featherlou I don't know what he meant when he said; "Nor does the moron."
16:18:08 featherlou

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The J Word « Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:10 am » Nor does the Moron featherlou « Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:10 am » THey might, for all we know. The J Word « Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:10 am » or does SDMB have the rights to "Great Debates"? featherlou « Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:10 am » I don't think the names of the forums are a big deal.

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16:18:15 What Exit? In know way does that appear to be directed at you Myrna.
16:18:29 The J Word lol
16:18:30 The J Word wow
16:18:32 What Exit? know = no
16:18:35 hatesfreedom and really, if we're going to start punsihing for personal insults we can probably send more people than just J word
16:18:36 featherlou Well, that's a bit of a mishmash.
16:18:46 hatesfreedom meanwhile thought my girl squirting question goes unanswered
16:18:50 Myrnalene Myrna: I don't see a problem with the forum titles. Lou: I don't see a problem with the thread titles. J: neither does the moron
16:19:07 featherlou Some girls are just juicier, hates.
16:19:16 hatesfreedom if i were a mod i'd probably probate you for back seat modding anyway myrna
16:20:01 The J Word Are we over this?
16:20:08 The J Word Nice to see Exy hasn't said anything too harsh
16:20:14 Myrnalene jim, this is the third or fourth godamn time I've been in a conversation with him and instead of addressing the conversation he has attacked me
16:20:17 Mr Chuka Hi guys
16:20:26 Excalibur Just scrolled back. In context it's pretty clear he was talking about Myrnalene.
16:20:28 featherlou Hi Mr. Chuka.
16:20:34 What Exit? Hates, I wish I has an answer, but I do not.
16:20:37 The J Word I haven't attacked you.
16:20:41 What Exit? Hi Chuka.
16:20:45 featherlou I'm sorry, you have caught us mid-controversy.
16:20:47 The J Word Jim will see this.
16:20:52 hatesfreedom it is a mystery these womenz and their secrets
16:20:58 Myrnalene hates, fair enough but the last time this happened Jim said to report it next time and he would consider a warning / stint in Room 101 and now he's acting like "wut? huh?"
16:21:02 Excalibur Just kick him out of here. It's not like he's suddenly going to start saying things that are worth hearing.
16:21:40 Myrnalene you know, what? screw you Jim. You told me to say something next time and I did and now you are blowing me off
16:21:43 hatesfreedom well. you know i like the cheap hamburgers from the asian gas station best of all. i think they remind me of when my family was poor.
16:21:44 What Exit? I don't see it Myrna, I think you are over reacting. Let's assume he did not mean you and drop this.
16:21:45 featherlou It's not clear at all, Exy. I went back and read that exchange, and I don't know what J Word meant by, "Nor does the moron."
16:21:46 The J Word Ok.. can anyone who isn't Exy or Myrnalene see that i've been an arsehole here tonight??
16:21:55 What Exit? Please
16:21:55 The J Word I really dont get it
16:22:22 Myrnalene hi, Mr Chuka
16:22:43 Excalibur Jim, he clearly DID mean her. Why are we all supposed to sit here and "assume" otherwise?
16:22:45 Myrnalene he has referred to me as a Moron several times in the past
16:22:45 What Exit? He was being an ass the other night, but one word today that was probably not aimed at you? I'm sorry, no reaction from me.
16:23:02 Excalibur Why do you feel such a bizarre need to accomodate and cooperate with people like him, and Truth and Beauty, and all the other dumb concern trolls?
16:23:31 Excalibur Do you really think it's somehow of benefit to dumbo to let people like this roam free?
16:23:43 The J Word Holy shit, Jim, if you think i meant that, then please give me a "stint" in 101 to shut me up. Please investigate this.
16:23:48 Myrnalene who was he fucking talking about then? give me one reasonable alternate explanation
16:24:10 The J Word Wait.. are people ACTUALLY angry (in real life) about that word?
16:24:37 What Exit? I thought he was talking about someone that was admin' the dope. He was posting about the legal rights at that point.
16:24:40 hatesfreedom i still think we should merge with the giraffe board and start our campaign of conquest and destruction as the good lord intended
16:24:45 Excalibur Myrnalene: Someone was saying it was Ed Zotti, but that makes literally no sense in context.
16:24:51 What Exit? J Word, who were you calling a moron?
16:25:04 hatesfreedom oh we're still on this. darn
16:25:41 featherlou We're trying to get to the bottom of this mystery.
16:25:58 Excalibur Jesus fucking Christ, the modes hand out warnings left and right at hates but a dumbfuck like this who is acting EXACTLY the same way he ALWAYS acts, who is utterly fucking consistent, and you won't even keep your word to 101 him without the fucking Nuremburg Tribunal.
16:26:09 hatesfreedom i'll tell you whats a mystery. why is it everyonce and awhile today i look at my computer screen and everything goes dizzy.
16:26:19 Myrnalene Fuck you, J Word. I don't know why you treat me like this or what you have against me. If 3 people are debating with you, you will ALWAYS single me out and call me stupid over and over and refuse to debate what I actually said. What is your fucking damage?
16:26:33 hatesfreedom hates is a special case because i'm funny
16:26:48 Excalibur If you wonder why this place has no fucking hope, Jim, this kind of stupid fucking administration is exactly it, just as it has been from the beginning.
16:26:56 The J Word holy shit.. what???
16:27:11 The J Word Are you actually ANGRY with me about a message board?
16:27:19 The J Word Like, feeling anger?
16:27:31 The J Word i cant believe you're acting this way towards me and meaning it
16:27:41 What Exit? Tell you what. Move this to the T'Dome. I don't agree with you and this has gotten completely out of hand.
16:27:44 Excalibur But whatever. It's more important that we be nice to the trolls and give them the benefit of the doubt to the point it constitutes literally ignoring what they do. That's just more important than having a decent, functional community. Fine. That's why this place is dying.
16:27:51 hatesfreedom yah J word, I think you won this battle. welcome to the halls of anger. to your left you'll see a wax statue of torettes guy
16:27:54 The J Word Exy, if you meant that, you'd leave.
16:28:07 Myrnalene J Word, are you honestly going to fucking deny it? I even saved the chat log from the last time you pulled this
16:28:17 Mr Chuka wow ok im back
16:28:24 Myrnalene Fuck you too, Jim
16:28:27 The J Word M, i called you a moron last time
16:28:32 The J Word and everytime before that, i'll admit it
16:28:42 The J Word I have no shame in the times i have done it
16:28:48 The J Word Because those times i thought you were.
16:28:56 The J Word But tonight??? Sorry, i'm not that subtle.
16:29:55 featherlou So, hypothetically being called a moron is not okay, but telling WHat Exit to fuck off is okay?
16:30:06 What Exit? Mr Chuka, I am afraid you caught us at our worst.
16:30:28 Myrnalene Who were you referring to?
16:30:38 Anaamika Hello....
16:30:40 The J Word When?
16:30:50 featherlou

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featherlou « Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:29 am » So, hypothetically being called a moron is not okay, but telling WHat Exit to fuck off is okay?

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Sorry, that was aimed at Myrna.
16:30:53 hatesfreedom hey anamika
16:31:01 featherlou Hi Anaa.
16:31:04 What Exit? Hi Mika,
16:31:11 Anaamika Looks like I came at a bad time.
16:31:15 What Exit? Trying to end a small brawl.
16:31:18 featherlou I agree with What Exit - this needs to go to the Thunderdome.
16:31:31 Myrnalene lou, is it part of an ongoing harassment campaign? was Jim told that the next time I did it I would be warned and put in Room 101?
16:31:39 The J Word Seriously M, make a Thunderdome thread about me. Please do.
16:31:50 The J Word I DIDNT CALL YOU A MORON!
16:31:59 The J Word I
16:32:00 Excalibur The mindset that says it's more important to be cooperative with losers like this guy than to even enforce the rules everyone else is expected to follow is just incomprehensible to me.
16:32:08 featherlou WHo did you call a moron? I'm curious.
16:32:17 The J Word I'll call you DELUSIONAL, I'll call you RIDICULOUS. But i will not call you a moron.
16:32:34 The J Word Ed Zotti is a moron.
16:32:34 Myrnalene when you said "The Moron agree" with lou, about the Domebo forum titles? who were you referring to?
16:32:35 hatesfreedom oh you're describing all women then
16:32:39 hatesfreedom lolz
16:33:03 featherlou This is a problem with chat - too many things going on sometimes.
16:33:15 Myrnalene omg, you have called me a moron so many times
16:33:16 The J Word I agree.
16:33:35 The J Word Makes me feel like a moron cos i can't keep up. (Before you get your fucking panties in a bunch, that was SARCASM)
16:33:39 Myrnalene Ed Zotti agrees with lou that the Domebo titles are not a problem? really?
16:33:39 Excalibur Yeah, sorry, but there's no possible way to interpret that sentence so that "Ed Zotti" makes sense there.
16:33:53 featherlou Yes. Yes he does.
16:34:02 The J Word Anyone that agrees with that, is a moron
16:34:09 The J Word not anyone specifically.
16:34:15 What Exit? Come on, enough, move this out of chat now.
16:34:16 The J Word i probaly meant "moronS"
16:34:23 The J Word i agree
16:34:27 featherlou Wait, are you calling my opinions moronic?
16:34:42 The J Word I'm done with it. M, i have a PM, i have an email, use one of them. I'll skype with you tomorrow if you want.
16:34:56 featherlou So, Anaa, how are things in New York land?
16:35:07 The J Word It would be buckeyes to discuss this any further.
16:35:07 Myrnalene Jim, don't you ever again tell me to report harrassment in the chat
16:35:23 The J Word Hear that Jim? Don't you EVER tell her what to do!!
16:35:24 Anaamika Muggy and humid feather
16:35:32 Anaamika how are you doing?
16:35:34 featherlou It's friggin' cold here!
16:35:46 What Exit? He posted : I'm saying, Domebo wasn't going to get sued. Different names were good, stupid names were... stupid. then or does SDMB have the rights to "Great Debates"? then Nor does the Moron. Myrna, you are worng on the sequance.
16:35:48 Anaamika Cold?! You peoples is weird
16:35:55 featherlou 50ºF this morning.
16:36:00 Anaamika We're going to the faire this weekend - mid-80s and SUNNY
16:36:11 The J Word lol nice misquote
16:36:12 Excalibur Jim, either 101 this guy for blatantly violating the rules of chat that you yourself made, or just back off. If you don't want to stick by what you yourself said last time, then this is the consequence. It's that simple.
16:36:13 Myrnalene well, it's rather pointless if he's going to do fuck all about it
16:36:17 featherlou This is a very weird year for us weatherwise.
16:36:32 Anaamika Us too. It rained continuously through June - yuck
16:36:46 featherlou What Exit is a mod, and he has asked you guys to repeatedly take this to the Dome - why don't you go do that?
16:36:56 The J Word Im done.
16:37:16 featherlou Our rain was late, our heat was late, and now our heat is gone.
16:37:19 What Exit? Look I have to go in a few, but I am ready to Start a thread in the Dome about you two. It is you and Myrna I am ready to put in 101.
16:37:23 hatesfreedom am i allowed to make a PMS joke yet
16:37:35 What Exit? I would rather not as you can expect.
16:37:39 The J Word Actually, i apologise if you think my comments were directed towards you M, they weren't. I didn't intend for you to feel like you were who i was talking about.
16:37:42 featherlou Why, hates? There is nothing funny about PMS.
16:37:55 Excalibur Featherlou: I'll talk about what I want in chat, thanks.
16:38:13 hatesfreedom no.... no there's nothing funny about raging insanity. you're right featherlou and we need to bring the word to more people so that they'll understand as well.
16:38:18 Anaamika Throw everyone in 101
16:38:33 featherlou You can talk about what you want the same way I can post what I want - as in, within what the mods agree is okay.
16:38:49 The J Word Ok, M? Official "I'm sorry if you felt that" apology.
16:38:57 featherlou I mean pictures, that is. I mean, I can't post porn pictures.
16:39:05 Excalibur Funny, I wrote this and erased it a few minutes back:

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16:39:37 The J Word No response, M?
16:39:48 The J Word I just want it settled
16:39:53 hatesfreedom oh be real. if this were SA we'd all have been perma-banned 10 minutes ago. jim's not that bad.
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I'm glad you've come around.
16:40:26 Excalibur I'm so smart.
16:41:29 Myrnalene J Word, I don't believe me. You have a really crappy track record where I am concern, it fact just moments before you told me "not to start with you" even though I was doing the SAME thing everyone else was doing, which was talking with you rationally about your ideasd
16:41:35 featherlou 101'ing people *is* using his administrative powers.
16:41:47 What Exit? Start the damn thread instead and I will come back in an hour and show you where Myrna was wrong this time. I already posted his posts preceding his moron post and they are not tied to Myrna like she thinks from what I can see.
16:42:06 The J Word Ok fine M. I'm not even gonna try to make peace. Enjoy.
16:42:11 Myrnalene I don't believe YOU rather
16:42:44 The J Word Lets drop it?
16:42:52 The J Word I tried to apologise, she doesn't want that.
16:43:05 hatesfreedom NHL 09's pro mode is the shit
16:43:14 Myrnalene look, you worthless fucker, I have contsant chat lag to deal with. sorry if I don't respond quickly enough for you
16:43:35 The J Word It's ok. I dont want to talk about it anymore. You win.
16:43:45 Excalibur There is no alternate interpretation, Jim. Why the fuck you always feel the need to bend over backwards for losers like this is just fucking beyond me.
16:44:12 What Exit? I have to go no choice, I PM'd the Mods for someone to come in an take over. Later.
16:44:17 Myrnalene You apologized to me once before, remember? and then after that you got drunk and attacked me AGAIN with no provocation. Your apologies are WORTHLESS
16:44:25 hatesfreedom laters dude
16:44:28 The J Word Sorry?
16:44:29 featherlou Bye Jim. Have a better day.
16:44:51 The J Word M, i said lets drop this
16:44:56 The J Word you can sort it out in PM if you wantr
16:44:58 The J Word Im here to talk
16:45:20 Excalibur And then you whine about the predictable results of not enforcing the rules.
16:45:22 The J Word Gmail chat, MSN, if you want to work this out 1 on 1 i will, but i dont want this big public thing you seem to want to do
16:45:41 Anaamika Bye Jim

You left out they bit where I said "I don't think the forum names are a problem", which is what leads to J responding to lou's " I don't think the names of the forums are a big deal. " with "Nor does the Moron".

Note he has called me "Moron" and otherwise disparaged my intelligence many, many, many times before.

I wish this had happened before the logs were wiped.

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You left out they bit where I said "I don't think the forum names are a problem", which is what leads to J responding to lou's " I don't think the names of the forums are a big deal. " with "Nor does the Moron".

Note he has called me "Moron" and otherwise disparaged my intelligence many, many, many times before.

I wish this had happened before the logs were wiped.

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I did not leave out anything, the Micro Chat Log has your line. The "Nor Does Moron" is so far after that part of the conversation that I have to believe you are mistaken in this case. He was not apparently responding to you or even about that part of the forum names.

Also, why is it that simply disagreeing with you on this got such a strong response? How does that compare to anything I have ever said or done to you? I try to be polite at all times. The only ones that deserved moderator action in chat today were you and Excalibur but I did not have time to 101 you and I asked other mods to jump in instead hoping it would die down on its own.

I saw the whole thing, too, and it was by no means clear who J Word was referencing when he said, "Nor does the Moron." Whatever else may have gone on between Myrna and The J Word, today's exchange was, in my opinion, not a continuation of hostilities except on Myrna's part.

While I'm at it, Myrna and Exy continuing to fight with J Word in chat after What Exit had explicitly asked them to take it to The Thunderome wasn't cool, either. Exy wants to see What Exit? showing more moderator muscles? Maybe he should have slammed both of you into Room 101.

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The "Nor Does Moron" is so far after that part of the conversation that I have to believe you are mistaken in this case. He was not apparently responding to you or even about that part of the forum names.

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:dub: It's not like it was an hour before, it was all part of the same conversation.

He refused to explain who he meant after repeated requests (but instead said "you're upset about one word"?), then finally demurred saying he meant no one in particular. Really? Even though it was so specific he used the word "The" AND capitalized it? I say that he is lying that he didn't mean me, or he is so used to calling me that, that it just slipped out without him realizing it.

Jim, I was upset because this has happened so many times before, and you told me the last time that if I spoke up the next time it would stop. Then when in happens, you don't listen. Even if you weren't sure, would a Mod Note "hey J Word, no personal insults please, just in case" have been too much to fucking ask? I'm sick of his shit, I never brought the mods into it before but I am now, please do something.

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I saw the whole thing, too, and it was by no means clear who J Word was referencing when he said, "Nor does the Moron." Whatever else may have gone on between Myrna and The J Word, today's exchange was, in my opinion, not a continuation of hostilities except on Myrna's part.

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So you don't know if he meant me or not, but even if he did, it's still my fault? Even though I have never EVER shot first with him and he has attacked me many times?

Of course, you are also over at Giraffe Boards saying that it's Sleepy's fault that Badtz stole a picture of her to use for sexual harassement purposes, so I guess this isn't a surprise.

Yeah, I'm funny like that; I expect people to be responsible for their own actions.

ETA: Badtz didn't "steal" the picture: Sleeps volunteered it by posting it publicly, but this probably isn't the time or place for this argument.

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Yeah, I'm funny like that; I expect people to be responsible for their own actions.

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That is so rich coming from you, featherlou.

(It's also kind of weird coming in a thread where you're arguing that someone shouldn't be held responsible for the things he said.)

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Yeah, I'm funny like that; I expect people to be responsible for their own actions.

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Everyone except the J Word and Badtz, apparently.

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Yeah, I'm funny like that; I expect people to be responsible for their own actions.

ETA: Badtz didn't "steal" the picture: Sleeps volunteered it by posting it publicly, but this probably isn't the time or place for this argument.

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I'm glad you feel that way because you have some fans at the Snarkpit.

Myrna, I saw no insult nor anything actionable in chat and I was there live and then reviewed it twice. You know I am willing to change my mind and concede a point. I still do not see the moron relating to you in this case. It is asking a lot for me to do anything to another poster based on that exchange.

Can I add a small whine please.

I've only had a few chances to get on Domebo lately, in these few chances, why do I have to be hit with this much shit? Both the chat issue and the J Word issue. It is not fair. Whine whine whine. "Jim just wants to have fun, oh Jim just wants to fun."

Sorry, I know world's smallest violin and I don't have to be a mod if I don't want to. Just nice to bitch a little every once in a rare while. Thank you for letting me blow off some steam.

HAhahahahaha.

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Myrna, I saw no insult nor anything actionable in chat and I was there live and then reviewed it twice. You know I am willing to change my mind and concede a point. I still do not see the moron relating to you in this case. It is asking a lot for me to do anything to another poster based on that exchange.

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It's so important for you to think the best of people and give them the benefit of the doubt, that it's not possible for you to see bad behavior right in front of your face. I know that, I've been the beneficiary of that impulse many times but you are wrong now. I have tried to establish this is a repeated (and repeated) pattern but I guess that doesn't matter. I think historianofchat must have the records of the last time this happened, when you were there and agreed that J Word was out of line. I could try and find them and post them after work but apparently no one gives a shit, it doesn't matter if the only rule of Chat is being broken as long as we don't clog up the chat with our nasty fighting.

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Myrna, I saw no insult nor anything actionable in chat and I was there live and then reviewed it twice. You know I am willing to change my mind and concede a point. I still do not see the moron relating to you in this case. It is asking a lot for me to do anything to another poster based on that exchange.

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Okay, so he told featherlou that "The Moron" agreed with her, when Myrnalene had posted the same thing as featherlou about five or six lines earlier in chat. And he has a history of calling Myrnalene a moron (yes, that word, specifically) out of the blue in the past on more than one occasion. So, then, specifically, who do you think he was calling a "moron"? If he wasn't talking about our Moon Girl, who was he talking about?

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Myrna, I saw no insult nor anything actionable in chat and I was there live and then reviewed it twice. You know I am willing to change my mind and concede a point. I still do not see the moron relating to you in this case. It is asking a lot for me to do anything to another poster based on that exchange.

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It's so important for you to think the best of people and give them the benefit of the doubt, that it's not possible for you to see bad behavior right in front of your face. I know that, I've been the beneficiary of that impulse many times but you are wrong now. I have tried to establish this is a repeated (and repeated) pattern but I guess that doesn't matter. I think historianofchat must have the records of the last time this happened, when you were there and agreed that J Word was out of line. I could try and find them and post them after work but apparently no one gives a shit, it doesn't matter if the only rule of Chat is being broken as long as we don't clog up the chat with our nasty fighting.

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I did say let the mods know the next time J Word started up again. I never denied that. I do not see today's example as such a case. I am sorry Myrna, I do not see it being aimed at you. You are right he has been a problem, but not today.

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Can I add a small whine please.

I've only had a few chances to get on Domebo lately, in these few chances, why do I have to be hit with this much shit? Both the chat issue and the J Word issue. It is not fair. Whine whine whine. "Jim just wants to have fun, oh Jim just wants to fun."

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Jim, one of the few times you were able to come to chat in the past few weeks, you were upset because J Word was acting up towards me and you had to note him. Remember? That was time number FOUR.

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Can I add a small whine please.

I've only had a few chances to get on Domebo lately, in these few chances, why do I have to be hit with this much shit? Both the chat issue and the J Word issue. It is not fair. Whine whine whine. "Jim just wants to have fun, oh Jim just wants to fun."

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Jim, one of the few times you were able to come to chat in the past few weeks, you were upset because J Word was acting up towards me and you had to note him. Remember? That was time number FOUR.

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I know, I do remember. I was having a nice chat today when to me at least, you and Exy derailed it.

Answer Exy's question please. Who was J Word talking about? J Word himself doesn't even know but you seem to be pretty sure.

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I know, I do remember. I was having a nice chat today when to me at least, you and Exy derailed it.

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Ok Jim, next time someone acts the ass to me I'll just take it. I certainly don't want to derail your fun by complaining about it.

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Answer Exy's question please. Who was J Word talking about? J Word himself doesn't even know but you seem to be pretty sure.

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I know, I do remember. I was having a nice chat today when to me at least, you and Exy derailed it.

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Ok Jim, next time someone acts the ass to me I'll just take it. I certainly don't want to derail your fun by complaining about it.

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Oh Myrna, how you could do that to WhatJim? You messed up his good chat day!!!!

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Answer Exy's question please. Who was J Word talking about? J Word himself doesn't even know but you seem to be pretty sure.

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I know, I do remember. I was having a nice chat today when to me at least, you and Exy derailed it.

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Ok Jim, next time someone acts the ass to me I'll just take it. I certainly don't want to derail your fun by complaining about it.

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I don't know who he was talking about, in the flow of chat as it was happening it appears to be a nameless SDMB person. Myrna, at worst, he made one snide comment and you blew it up in a way that normally only Liberal would. I still don't see it aimed at you, but even if it was, your reaction was out of proporation to being called a moron. Not to mention Exy dropping in to say "don't talk to the Troll, what a bunch of idiots you are to talk to the troll."

Let's see here we go, other "obvious" insults I ignored:
16:05:55 Excalibur :: carefully notes down J Word's advice so that we can get more users just like him ::
Five minutes before the
16:10:45 The J Word Nor does the Moron

Which insult is more obvious?

Then a little later we get:
16:14:11 Excalibur Why are you people even talking to this guy? All he does is whine and troll, do you think he's going to change?
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16:15:02 Excalibur It's sort of embarrassing just sharing a message board with people dumb enough to talk to people like the J Word.
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16:15:52 Excalibur He's a professional malcontent, Featherlou. He sees whatever "problems" he thinks will make you upset.

Later I politely request:
16:27:41 What Exit? Tell you what. Move this to the T'Dome. I don't agree with you and this has gotten completely out of hand.

I get:
16:28:24 Myrnalene Fuck you too, Jim

Meanwhile, this was all a nice intro for Mr Chuka and a good greeting to Mika. You should have move this argument to the Dome when I asked. I should have 101'd the both of you when you did not. Instead I foolishly gave you the benefit of the doubt that it would end and then I was short on time and to run.

Myrna, I thought you said you didn't care what he thinks? Why so angry?

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apparently no one gives a shit, it doesn't matter if the only rule of Chat is being broken as long as we don't clog up the chat with our nasty fighting.

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Isn't that basically the way it works? You're allowed a little leeway in insulting each other, but if it gets too nasty or breaks out into a full-on fight, you get told to take it somewhere else or get 101'd. "Moron" is pretty tame compared to some of the shit I've seen you say in there.

PS. Man you guys were fucking dicks to Jim in there.

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Let's see here we go, other "obvious" insults I ignored:
16:05:55 Excalibur :: carefully notes down J Word's advice so that we can get more users just like him ::
Five minutes before the
16:10:45 The J Word Nor does the Moron

Which insult is more obvious?

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How can you characterize that as an insult? I was clearly indicating that it would be desirable to have more users like The J Word.

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Originally posted by What Exit?

Let's see here we go, other "obvious" insults I ignored:
16:05:55 Excalibur :: carefully notes down J Word's advice so that we can get more users just like him ::
Five minutes before the
16:10:45 The J Word Nor does the Moron

Which insult is more obvious?

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How can you characterize that as an insult? I was clearly indicating that it would be desirable to have more users like The J Word.

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You are completely and obviously full of it and you know and everyone knows it.

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Originally posted by Excalibur

How can you characterize that as an insult? I was clearly indicating that it would be desirable to have more users like The J Word.

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Wow, that is an astoundingly lame bullshit claim.

[quote=What Exit?]

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Originally posted by "What Exit?":jdby7i0s

Let's see here we go, other "obvious" insults I ignored:
16:05:55 Excalibur :: carefully notes down J Word's advice so that we can get more users just like him ::
Five minutes before the
16:10:45 The J Word Nor does the Moron

Which insult is more obvious?

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How can you characterize that as an insult? I was clearly indicating that it would be desirable to have more users like The J Word.

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You are completely and obviously full of it and you know and everyone knows it.[/quote:jdby7i0s]
What? I'm outraged! That's as awful as when Myrnalene accused The J Word of calling her a moron!

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Originally posted by Excalibur

What? I'm outraged! That's as awful as when Myrnalene accused The J Word of calling her a moron!

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:lol:

You're funny. That one was good. Are you the new concern troll?

You are also amazingly fast.

I admit it. I fell for it too.

[quote=What Exit?]

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Originally posted by Myrnalene

Answer Exy's question please. Who was J Word talking about? J Word himself doesn't even know but you seem to be pretty sure.

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Originally posted by "What Exit?":i40c8cff

I know, I do remember. I was having a nice chat today when to me at least, you and Exy derailed it.

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Ok Jim, next time someone acts the ass to me I'll just take it. I certainly don't want to derail your fun by complaining about it.

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I don't know who he was talking about, in the flow of chat as it was happening it appears to be a nameless SDMB person. Myrna, at worst, he made one snide comment and you blew it up in a way that normally only Liberal would. I still don't see it aimed at you, but even if it was, your reaction was out of proporation to being called a moron. Not to mention Exy dropping in to say "don't talk to the Troll, what a bunch of idiots you are to talk to the troll."

Let's see here we go, other "obvious" insults I ignored:
16:05:55 Excalibur :: carefully notes down J Word's advice so that we can get more users just like him ::
Five minutes before the
16:10:45 The J Word Nor does the Moron

Which insult is more obvious?

Then a little later we get:
16:14:11 Excalibur Why are you people even talking to this guy? All he does is whine and troll, do you think he's going to change?
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16:15:02 Excalibur It's sort of embarrassing just sharing a message board with people dumb enough to talk to people like the J Word.
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16:15:52 Excalibur He's a professional malcontent, Featherlou. He sees whatever "problems" he thinks will make you upset.

Later I politely request:
16:27:41 What Exit? Tell you what. Move this to the T'Dome. I don't agree with you and this has gotten completely out of hand.

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16:28:24 Myrnalene Fuck you too, Jim

Meanwhile, this was all a nice intro for Mr Chuka and a good greeting to Mika. You should have move this argument to the Dome when I asked. I should have 101'd the both of you when you did not. Instead I foolishly gave you the benefit of the doubt that it would end and then I was short on time and to run.[/quote:i40c8cff]

I'm not sure why you're quoting to me what Exy said, as though I am in any way responsible for what he does.

So you are saying that even if he did mean to insult me, continuing his pattern of harrassing behavior, it's no big deal and you wouldn't do anything about it.

Why did you tell me to report it, then? I only fucking brought it up because you told me to do it.

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apparently no one gives a shit, it doesn't matter if the only rule of Chat is being broken as long as we don't clog up the chat with our nasty fighting.

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Isn't that basically the way it works?

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Actually I have it on pretty good authority that it's supposed to work like this:

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The bar on language is relaxed in Chat, just keep it semi-relevant. If you have a personal issues with another poster, take it to the Thunderdome. No stalking allowed of course.
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Moderators will delete posts as needed and have access to a chat log to review problem reported that are now off the scroll

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Anyone who thinks I that this is about one instance if J Word calling me a moron when it has been repeatedly acknowledged that this is a pattern of behavior for him is frankly too stupid for me to address any further.

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Originally posted by Myrnalene

I'm not sure why you're quoting to me what Exy said, as though I am in any way responsible for what he does.

So you are saying that even if he did mean to insult me, continuing his pattern of harrassing behavior, it's no big deal and you wouldn't do anything about it.

Why did you tell me to report it, then? I only fucking brought it up because you told me to do it.

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You asked me to respond to Excalibur and I did and then added more. I asked you to report when he harassed you in chat again. It does not mean I would automatically agree that it was. I did not do anything as it did not look like he did anything.

BTW, on preview, who thinks this was one case? No one said that.

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Originally posted by What Exit?

I asked you to report when he harassed you in chat again. It does not mean I would automatically agree that it was. I did not do anything as it did not look like he did anything.

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But......you just said that maybe he did insult me.

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Originally posted by What Exit?

Myrna, at worst, he made one snide comment and you blew it up in a way that normally only Liberal would. I still don't see it aimed at you, but even if it was, your reaction was out of proporation to being called a moron.

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Either you think he didn't or you think he might have but you don't give a fuck. Can you pick one, please?

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BTW, on preview, who thinks this was one case? No one said that.

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McNutty apparently thinks that this is about one instance of "moron".

Myrna, I think what Jim was saying was if you have a problem with someone, take it to the TDome (as opposed to fighting it out in chat). I don't think he ever said he wouldn't poke you with a stick when you got here.

Also, all kidding aside, it's sort of hard to establish a pattern of harrassment, or at least a direction.

I don't think he insulted you today. That is my pick.


Winston, J Word was clearly harassing Myrna the other day. No question about it. If I thought he was continuing it I probably would have tossed him from chat for an hour and brought up the stalking-like activity to the mods to decide what to do. I just don't happen to agree with Myrna that J Word did anything wrong today.

Myrna, baby, this thread is not going to get the results you hope for. J Word was a dick, I was a dick, everyone was pretty much a dick. There's no point in rehashing it over and over and over, though.

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Myrna, I think what Jim was saying was if you have a problem with someone, take it to the TDome (as opposed to fighting it out in chat). I don't think he ever said he wouldn't poke you with a stick when you got here.

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Actually, what he said last time was something like, "Wow, he is being nasty to you. I have told him to knock it off, if he starts on you again please let one of the mods know. I think a warning and a stint in Room 101 would be fair next time". I said, "Cool, I agree". More than anything, I am surprised that he didn't mean it, or that he only meant it if it gets bad enough for him to notice.

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Originally posted by Winston Smith

Also, all kidding aside, it's sort of hard to establish a pattern of harrassment, or at least a direction.

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Because the chat logs are gone.

What exactly happened to the chat logs, anyways?

[quote=Myrnalene]

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Originally posted by Winston Smith

Myrna, I think what Jim was saying was if you have a problem with someone, take it to the TDome (as opposed to fighting it out in chat). I don't think he ever said he wouldn't poke you with a stick when you got here.

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Actually, what he said last time was something like, "Wow, he is being nasty to you. I have told him to knock it off, if he starts on you again please let one of the mods know. I think a warning and a stint in Room 101 would be fair next time". I said, "Cool, I agree". More than anything, I am surprised that he didn't mean it, or that he only meant it if it gets bad enough for him to notice.

[quote="Winston Smith":3jrnagii]Also, all kidding aside, it's sort of hard to establish a pattern of harrassment, or at least a direction.[/quote]
Because the chat logs are gone.[/quote:3jrnagii]
[b]Myrna[/b], please, I don't see it, [b]Feather [/b]was there and she did not see it. I'm sorry, I just don't agree with you on this one.

The chat logs are gone as we are trying to fix a problem of large concern to you. In fact even as this is ongoing in here, I am still trying to fix the chat problem for you. [url="http://domebo.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4207"]viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4207[/url]

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Originally posted by What Exit?

I don't think he insulted you today. That is my pick.


Winston, J Word was clearly harassing Myrna the other day. No question about it. If I thought he was continuing it I probably would have tossed him from chat for an hour and brought up the stalking-like activity to the mods to decide what to do. I just don't happen to agree with Myrna that J Word did anything wrong today.

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I'm really disappointed that you refuse to budge on this, when it's clearly the most logical reading of the logs. I don't understand why you are so invested in erring on his side. I honestly don't know what to do the next time he starts in, if I can't trust your judgement. I'll PM another mod, I guess.

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Myrna, baby, this thread is not going to get the results you hope for. J Word was a dick, I was a dick, everyone was pretty much a dick. There's no point in rehashing it over and over and over, though.

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I'm done.

ETA: I'm not bitching about the chat logs being gone, just as I said, I wish this had come up when they were still there.

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Actually, what he said last time was something like, "Wow, he is being nasty to you. I have told him to knock it off, if he starts on you again please let one of the mods know. I think a warning and a stint in Room 101 would be fair next time". I said, "Cool, I agree". More than anything, I am surprised that he didn't mean it, or that he only meant it if it gets bad enough for him to notice.

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Listen, all bitching aside, there's something you need to realize about what he told you: it does not give you license to demand that Jim put the guy in 101 just because you think he deserves it. Jim still gets to use his discretion, and the fact that his discretion did not side with you in this instance is tough shit. Suck it up.

ETA: (bolding mine)

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What exactly happened to the chat logs, anyways?

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As a sort of grasping-at-straws attempt to get the chat performance to stop blowing chunks, we decided to drop all the old chat messages from the table, since people can't see them anyway. It didn't really help. I have a SQL backup of them, though, and could restore them if need be.

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Originally posted by Winston Smith

What exactly happened to the chat logs, anyways?

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As a sort of grasping-at-straws attempt to get the chat performance to stop blowing chunks, we decided to drop all the old chat messages from the table, since people can't see them anyway. It didn't really help. I have a SQL backup of them, though, and could restore them if need be.

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Bummer. What a pain in the arse, eh?

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Originally posted by Myrnalene

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I'm really disappointed that you refuse to budge on this, when it's clearly the most logical reading of the logs. I don't understand why you are so invested in erring on his side. I honestly don't know what to do the next time he starts in, if I can't trust your judgement. I'll PM another mod, I guess.
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I've re-read the exchange a couple of times now, and while I don't understand what J Word was intending with his comment, I honestly don't see it as a clear example of him insulting you, Myrna. He said he was insulting Ed Zotti, and that is as logical a reading, since we were just talking about the Dope suing us for using their forum headers. I have no comment on any of his past behaviours towards you since I didn't see any of them.

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Bummer. What a pain in the arse, eh?

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Obviously not, since I don't do any "actual work" around here.

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Bummer. What a pain in the arse, eh?

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Obviously not, since I don't do any "actual work" around here.

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But at least you're not bitter. :D

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Bummer. What a pain in the arse, eh?

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Obviously not, since I don't do any "actual work" around here.

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I feel your pain, McNutz.

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I've re-read the exchange a couple of times now, and while I don't understand what J Word was intending with his comment, I honestly don't see it as a clear example of him insulting you, Myrna. He said he was insulting Ed Zotti, and that is as logical a reading, since we were just talking about the Dope suing us for using their forum headers. I have no comment on any of his past behaviours towards you since I didn't see any of them.

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Whatever, he didn't hint (and that is all he did) that he was talking about Ed Zotti until after repeated requests for clarification and after Jim said well, he must have meant Ed Zotti.

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16:04:08 Myrnalene I don't see anything wrong with the forum names at all

16:07:02 Myrnalene We obviously have problems but I forum titles aren't where those lie

16:10:30 featherlou I don't think the names of the forums are a big deal.
16:10:33 The J Word or does SDMB have the rights to "Great Debates"?
16:10:43 featherlou THey might, for all we know.
16:10:45 The J Word Nor does the Moron


16:17:49 What Exit? I think he called Ed Zotti a moron, but I am not even sure of that.
16:17:49 featherlou I don't know what he meant when he said; "Nor does the moron."

16:24:51 What Exit? J Word, who were you calling a moron?

16:30:28 Myrnalene Who were you referring to?
16:31:39 The J Word Seriously M, make a Thunderdome thread about me. Please do.
16:31:50 The J Word I DIDNT CALL YOU A MORON!

16:32:08 featherlou WHo did you call a moron? I'm curious.
16:32:17 The J Word I'll call you DELUSIONAL, I'll call you RIDICULOUS. But i will not call you a moron.
16:32:34 The J Word Ed Zotti is a moron.


16:33:39 Myrnalene Ed Zotti agrees with lou that the Domebo titles are not a problem? really?
16:33:39 Excalibur Yeah, sorry, but there's no possible way to interpret that sentence so that "Ed Zotti" makes sense there.
16:33:53 featherlou Yes. Yes he does.
16:34:02 The J Word Anyone that agrees with that, is a moron
16:34:09 The J Word not anyone specifically.
16:34:15 What Exit? Come on, enough, move this out of chat now.
16:34:16 The J Word i probaly meant "moronS"

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NOW I'm done. Exy baby, break my fingers.

This thread makes me rub my thighs fervently.

What the fuck? I wasn't in the chat when this happened this morning, but anyone who's been in there while J Word has knows his only purpose is drunkenly hurl insults at Myrna. That snide little comment was totally aimed at her, IMO. The last incident Myrna mentioned was ridiculous. He came back over and over again for no reason other than to call her a stupid whore. Now he throws out a random insult and you have doubts about who he intended it for? Seriously? This is fucking retarded.

For the record, when I come into chat and drunkenly call Myrna a whore it's out of love.

Having read all the way through this now, I have to say I'm on What Exit?'s side. As the arbitor called in to assess the case, it's his call to decide if what was going on was out of line or not. The evidence against J Word is strictly circumstantial which forced Jim to make a judgment call and he ruled in J Word's favor. This time.

Myrnalene, you have, to my mind, clearly established a pattern of behaviour. If J Word has taken a run at you 4 times, chances are pretty good that he'll do it a 5th time, and a 6th, and as many more times as he can get away with it. If you bring in a mod to assess the situation every time, sooner or later a douche like that will make it plain to whom he is addressing his comments and he'll be gone. This particular incident seems to me to be a probable or even likely attack on you, but I don't think probable is enough to take action -- I think there was still reasonable doubt, although just barely. Play the long game and he'll eventually take himself down, guaranteed.

That's a good way of looking at it, Jimbo. If he just can't help himself, he'll do it again, more obviously.

I have only been under the influence of alcohol once, maybe twice when I've insulted to Myrnalene, and that had very little to do with my general distaste of her and Exy.

Also, M, you pleaded for Jim to make a decision, then when he did you had a problem with it.

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I'm really disappointed that you refuse to budge on this, when it's clearly the most logical reading of the logs. I don't understand why you are so invested in erring on his side. I honestly don't know what to do the next time he starts in, if I can't trust your judgement. I'll PM another mod, I guess.

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There is a quote from a great Aussie comedy series where a big headed drama teacher doesn't get the funding he wants from his principal and he says "I AM being reasonable, you're just not giving me what i want!". This is who you remind me of right now.

All i want to say now is how surprised i am that the one time i don't call you a moron, is the time you blow up.

Thanks for the thread, it's good to know people care. :)

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I have only been under the influence of alcohol once, maybe twice when I've insulted to Myrnalene, and that had very little to do with my general distaste of her and Exy.

Also, M, you pleaded for Jim to make a decision, then when he did you had a problem with it.

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I'm really disappointed that you refuse to budge on this, when it's clearly the most logical reading of the logs. I don't understand why you are so invested in erring on his side. I honestly don't know what to do the next time he starts in, if I can't trust your judgement. I'll PM another mod, I guess.

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There is a quote from a great Aussie comedy series where a big headed drama teacher doesn't get the funding he wants from his principal and he says "I AM being reasonable, you're just not giving me what i want!". This is who you remind me of right now.

All i want to say now is how surprised i am that the one time i don't call you a moron, is the time you blow up.

Thanks for the thread, it's good to know people care. :)

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Bolding mine. Well J Word, that's kind of the problem - if you build a reputation for yourself for insulting Myrna then that reputation is going to count against you, regardless of who you were calling a moron in this.

Having read this thread carefully I have to say I'm still a bit confused over what actually happened, but certainly tensions were running way to high in this. Insulting posters in chat is not on, and so is insulting mods in chat. We have a forum specifically for that.

No one wants to have to have chat moderated, but this whole exchange was, at best, unfortunate. And it's not going to happen again.

Myrnalene, you were being paranoid and wanting everything to be about you.

You are a moron and I don't understand what the fuss is about.

I was excited when I saw someone named "Moronalene" had registered but damn that was boring.

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Originally posted by Moronalene

Myrnalene, you were being paranoid and wanting everything to be about you.

You are a moron and I don't understand what the fuss is about.

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Now this is the kind of first post that really says, "hey guys, let's chat!"

A clever name, keen attention to grammar, crafty use of bolding and a message worth sharing.

Clearly, the sky's the limit here.

What will post two bring? Insight? Comedy? Educated looks into topics steeped with intrigue?

I am giddy with suspense!

Welcome Moronalene, WELCOME!

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No one wants to have to have chat moderated, but this whole exchange was, at best, unfortunate. And it's not going to happen again.

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You disappoint me, AllWalker. The condescending admonishment quoted above is something I would have expected from TomnDeb, TubaDiva, or Marley, but not from you. Has your moderator status gone to your head already?

I just want to go on the record as being in favour of whatever (hopefully harsh) punishment What Jim cares to throw Myrnaloon's way. I've always secretly disliked Myrnaloon and J Word's brave stand has given me the courage to make my voice heard.

Jeff, your disdain is like the breath of life to me.

My disdain is a confusing and ennobling thing.

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Originally posted by AllWalker

No one wants to have to have chat moderated, but this whole exchange was, at best, unfortunate. And it's not going to happen again.

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You disappoint me, AllWalker. The condescending admonishment quoted above is something I would have expected from TomnDeb, TubaDiva, or Marley, but not from you. Has your moderator status gone to your head already?

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Sorry if I disappoint, but my ego was not what prompted me to post that. An exchange like that contributed nothing positive and possibly drove away a newcomer to chat. At the bare minimum moderators exist to keep the conversations appropriate to the forum, as this one was not. And sorry if I was condescending - consider my wording suitably modified.