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In the spirit of other threads with questions about countries, I hereby offer to answer questions about England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
I will add I know plenty about England and Wales, some about Scotland and very little about Northern Ireland, but I will try to answer evrything.
OTOH, if you want to know why Jaffa Cakes are the greatest thing ever created or have any other questions about a little island that helped shape the world, feel free to ask.
By 'shape the world', do you mean 'invaded a whole heap of places and stole lots of land'?
I heard that Scotland gained independence recently. Is their new-found independence merely ornamental, or are they really stepping out of London's shadow?
How much and in what ways do you think the London terrorist attacks have affected the UK? Has day-to-day life changed much due to security checks etc? How has it affected the British psyche?
Have you been to Stonehenge? Was it built by aliens?
Why does Wales have a seperate Prince/ss? Also, why isn't Wales represented on the Union Jack?
Well, we did have 1/3 of the globe ruled from London at one point as the British Empire. Invading lands and taking control was very popular in Europe and having an excellent navy, Britain was well placed to take advantage.Quote:
Originally posted by spitz
We also have the oldest of what might be termed the modern university. The Industrial Revolution started here and London has been a major settlement for over 2000 years.
Scotland is not an independent country, although it has gained an amount of self-governence with its own parliament and ability to set local taxes. On national matters it is still ruled from London.Quote:
Originally posted by spitz
However, despite what they think of the Engllish, it is likely that any poll on becoming an independant country would be rejected by the Scottish. The biggest sticking point is the revenue from North Sea Oil.
I believe the oft used phrase about 7/7 was "We've been bombed by a better quality of bastard". I won't deny it was shocking, but since the Blitz in WWII and after the numerous IRA attacks on the capital, we got on with life. Day-to-Day life didn't really change that much although.Quote:
Originally posted by spitz
Yes, I have been to Stonehenge. No it was not built by aliens.Quote:
Originally posted by spitz
It's quite pretty and self contained. For a better stone circle, Avebury is really impressive.
The original Prince of Wales was named as such to show the Welsh they had been conquered and were going to be ruled by the English royal line (yup, we started with our neighbours), the original welsh royal family having been "dealt with". There is an Ensign flag showing the Welsh Dragon as well, but it is rarely used. It's not represented as it was conquered territory.Quote:
Originally posted by spitz
Have you ever tormented a Beefeater?
Was Scotland not conquered territory?Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuit
When are you people going to get around to cranking out some more Kate Winslets and Jude Laws?
What would you recommend to a tourist of Wales from America?
(Keeping in mind a love of ruins, castles, museums and zoos)
One does not torment ex-Forces brick outhouses armed with a very big pike. Male or Female. Apparently, it does happen now and again. It is always a mistake.Quote:
Originally posted by spitz
Nope, England and Scotland joined under the Act of Union, when King James VI of Scotland became King James I of England uniting the 2 countries.Quote:
Originally posted by spitz
You mean Keira Knightly and Orlando Bloom :)Quote:
Originally posted by OneCentStamp
Besides Colin Firth is likely to get best actor this year and all the women keep mentioning this swimming scene as Mr Darcy.
Castles: Wales has some of the finest - Caernarvon and Harlech in North Wales are superb. Cardiff in the south.Quote:
Originally posted by What Exit?
Zoos: Chester Zoo is pretty good (although its just across the border in England)
Ruins - see Castles
Nerd Time - Portmeiron was the setting for "The Prisoner"
St Davids - smallest city in the UK and has a massive beach called Whitesands
Roman Fan: Chester and Carleon had two major forts there, Chester also has a great set of City Walls to walk around.
Areas of Beauty - Snowdonia and Brecon Beacons are two large national parks and look amazing. Especially in Autumn
Just for starters.
How is it that fish n' chips made on your island are 20,000 times better than fish n' chips I've had anywhere else? Is it fairy dust?
Are you bored of Kate Middleton yet?
No, you can keep Keira and Orlando. We're quite well stocked on willowy pretty people with high cheekbones, TYVM. MOAR KATE PLZ THX.Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuit
Hey I am not a huge fan of Keira's looks overall but she is a very good actress, actually better then Kate I think. Bloom of course is barely an actor, almost the Brit's version of Tom Cruise without the CrazyTM
Does Wales board any pre-Edward ruins?
Fish and Chips, we have the freshest fish, the finest potatoes, the hottest oil and several decades of artery hardening practice.Quote:
Originally posted by Orual
Not bored of Kate Middleton - yet. Ask me again next April, the answer might be slightly different.
Yes, we do have replacements, no you can't have a look, instead you can have Helena Bonham-Carter.Quote:
Originally posted by OneCentStamp
Castles, er, no. Edward flattened them allQuote:
Originally posted by What Exit?
There are plenty of Roman ruins in Wales, but I don't think any of the druid stuff survived in Anglesey. The Romans flattened it all.
Look we have all had enough Helena Bonham-Carter, she is still occasionally good, but no one wants any more of her.Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuitYes, we do have replacements, no you can't have a look, instead you can have Helena Bonham-Carter.
Castles, er, no. Edward flattened them allQuote:
Originally posted by What Exit?
There are plenty of Roman ruins in Wales, but I don't think any of the druid stuff survived in Anglesey. The Romans flattened it all.
The lack of Druidic and Ancient Welsh ruins is sad. Scotland and Ireland thankfully still have many. I am still trying to decide when I finally get over there again if I am doing Ireland, Ireland and Wales, Wales and Southern England or England or Scotland.
They're pretty good in Ireland too.Quote:
Originally posted by Orual
Scotland is awesome. Northern England (Durham and York) is also very, very cool.Quote:
Originally posted by What Exit?
How do people who live in England generally think about themselves? As citizens of the UK or as "Englishmen" or "Brits"? What's the primary personal identity?
Thanks for starting the thread! My family was from Staffordshire back in the early 1800s before coming to the U.S., and I've always been a rabid Anglophile. I've visited the UK three times: a two-week high school trip (London and the usual tourist spots within an hour's drive of the city), a four-month college semester abroad (living in Hammersmith, going to classes near Oxford Circus, and traveling to Devon, Cornwall and Kent), and another two-week visit a few years later (London and Oxford, mostly). Loved it and would like to go back someday.
And I think Keira's lovely. In fact, if I weren't happily married, I'd probably be stalking her.
So....
Do you favor retention of the monarchy?
What are your political leanings?
Should even greater power now be given to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?
Should Northern Ireland even remain part of the UK?
What are your favorite British TV shows?
Who are your favorite British actors or actresses?
Do you resent "51st state" jokes?
How do you think Cameron, Clegg & Co. are doing?
What did you think of Tony Blair?
Do you favor PR or any other electoral reform?
What current national policies do you strongly support?
Which do you strongly oppose?
Do you display the Union Flag at your home?
Technically I am British but don't feel any particular affiliation to the country. It is just an accident of birth.
I am of the opinion that patriotism is another facet of racism.
Borders should be eradicated.
In contradiction to this, diverse cultures under the guise of nations is something that should never be repressed but encouraged.
Most of the questions posed above^ by EH fall into the 'don't care' category. I don't have a Union Jack and reckon all these types that wave them and the George cross around are a load of idiots.
I'll just get me coat and curmudgeon away then...
even my username is Swedish and the avatar French
What kind of candy bar is available in the US that is not available in Wales, that a guy from Wales might be rather tickled to receive in the mail? (Oh come on, it's fun to get random stuff in the mail from a buddy, isn't it?)
It's a wierd situation. Most people will think of themselves as either English, Welsh, Scottish or Irish in day to day terms, but when it comes to something representing the union, they are British.Quote:
Originally posted by Nrblex
However, it has benefits. Andy Murray was playing in the final of the Australian Open Tennis. If he had won, he would have been a British Hero, allowing all 4 countries to enjoy the win. As he didn't, he's just a Scottish loser :)
Ok, most of these question are actually looking for opinions rather than questions about the UK, but here goes.Quote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
The Monarchy: Most people want to keep the monarchy in more or less its current state. These is a republican movement, but considering who the alternatives would be, the monarchy does an excellent job. People say we should not pay for them, but it does not consider just how much money the Crown generates and how much would have to be given back to the Family should they be replaced.
My political leanings: Centre-Right, which would probably make me a Democrat in America.
Local government: I see no reason why some local powers could not be devolved to local government, but the same also needs to happen in England.
Northern Ireland: At this point in time, I think Northern Ireland should remain part of the UK. I can't see it joining to make one United Ireland and I don't know if it would prefer to be it's own country rather than join.
Favourite British TV Shows/Actors - too many to mention
51st State Jokes: you mean other than being America's largest aircraft carrier. ;)
Cameron, Clegg and the Coalition: Early Days yet, but considering the less they were left behind, they don't have a lot of options and all of them are unpalatable. They have made some mistakes but I think they are heading in the right direction.
Tony Blair: :RAEG: The only reason he governed the country was to feather his own nest. He wanted to make his mark on history and would do anything necessary do it. BTW: I'm sorry to say but you just elected your own Blair in Obama. Great orator, uplifting leader, one or two big policies to make his mark, will be gone before the shit really hits the fan. Current joke doing the rounds- Why do dictators always hold on to power for too long unless it is to pass it to their pal Gordon.
Electoral: I like FPTP as an electoral system depsite its fault. PR may be more representative, but then you have to deal with every focus group who gains a selection of votes. Amusing PR note: The BNP got more votes then the Greens in the last election. However under FPTP, the Greens have 1 MP and the BNP none. However, I do agree with trying to rationalise the constituency boundaries to even the number of people in each of them to make it fairer.
National Policy support/oppose: That's a bit vague, I'd suggest a Crucible thread for something specific.
and no, I don't fly a Union Jack at home.
Given the number of races in Britain who consider themselves British, I don't think patriotism is racist. It is supposed to be a celebration of what makes your country unique and being proud of it.Quote:
Originally posted by Myglaren
A big problem England has is the hijack of the George Cross by Nationalists and Right Wing. It needs reclaiming as a celebration of what it means to be English.
Same goes for what it means to be British as well.
Best suggestion would be to send Hersheys Kisses or Reese's, which are not available over here. One point of warning, American chocolate is made with corn syrup and British chocolate is made with sugar and is much sweeter.Quote:
Originally posted by 5er
Speaking of Hershey's, have you ever had it and did you find it disgusting?
I have and they are truly disgusting by comparison to British chocolate.Quote:
Originally posted by Zuul
Thanks for all your answers! Someday I hope to get back to your scepter'd isle....
Who (IYO) was Britain's greatest leader?
And for that matter, what's the difference between "The United Kingdom" and "Britain?" They seem to be used interchangeably, but I suspect they refer to different things.Quote:
Originally posted by Nrblex
Hmm, so may good ones to choose from.Quote:
Originally posted by Bergen
Leader as in a leader of men, then probably the Duke of Wellington.
Leader as in leading the country, Elizabeth I or Winston Churchill
Given you probably mean leader of the country, I'll go with Lizzie I.
Ok, the United Kingdom is the four combined countries of England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales.Quote:
Originally posted by Sarahfeena
Britain is the island on which three of the countries sit and does not include Northern Ireland.
The correct title of the sovereign state is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, normally referred to as the UK.
Ah, got it. But there must be more to bring "British" than just living on the island of Britain...there's national identity wrapped up in it, too?Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuit
How do you mean? Being British also means being Scottish, Welsh or English as well, but not Irish.Quote:
Originally posted by Sarahfeena
Besides Britishness has been exported around the globe and has acquired certain meanings beyond that of the locals.
I think to most Americans, we tend to think British = English and not Scottish or Welsh.
There's an on-going thread on SDMB about all this. Most residents of Northern Ireland are British citizens and some would refer to themselves as British but a significant minority identify as Irish. One thing that confuses the terminology is that the UK is often referred to as Great Britain or just Britain, even when Northern Ireland is to be included. Barack Obama referred to how great an ally Great Britain was and I joked that Northern Ireland wasn't pulling its weight.
Just don't describe the Scottish or Welsh as English.
"Brits Out!!" works well for any of 'em. :)
I think there are two issues for Americans, we can easily tell the Scottish from the English but it is usually not as easy to tell the Welsh from the English. I've heard plenty of self-described Welshmen that sounded English to my ear and I don't think I am alone. I have also heard a few that did not sound English. But the Scottish sound very distinct, from a light brogue to the very heavy brogue that some have.
Considering the variation in English accents over a fairly small land area, I think this adds to the confusion over the mild Welsh accent.
Is there generally considered a strong and weak Welsh accent? Do those near the border tend to have only a light accent?
I'm not sure what I mean! For one thing, I guess, here in the US, someone from Scotland will usually describe themselves as "Scottish," whereas someone from England will tend to say "British." But what I was really after was what it means in a political sense or in a cultural sense. What does it mean to be British, other than just living on the same island?Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuitHow do you mean? Being British also means being Scottish, Welsh or English as well, but not Irish.Quote:
Originally posted by Sarahfeena
Besides Britishness has been exported around the globe and has acquired certain meanings beyond that of the locals.
ETA: I'm starting to think this is a stupid question, since I can't seem to figure out how to articulate it. :fail:
What does being an American mean? Really, what binds all those diverse 200-some million people other than the share a big chunk of the same continent (and a few islands)?
That's a good question, AG. I think ultimately it's the Constitution, but part of that is the way the government was formed and the Constitution was written. We really had nothing before it, so it was formed just from an idea of what a country and a government should be, and so it was. We don't really have a whole lot of anything binding us together outside of that concept (which I think is why "freedom/liberty" is SO resonant with Americans, even though other countries have those concepts enshrined in their own constitutions and cultures).
We also don't have a situation where we will say, "ok, so all 50 states together are political entity known as the United States, but 43 of the states are known as "America," which is different. So I'm trying to figure out where the difference lies.
Well think of it like this, Puerto Rico is American yet it is also Puerto Rican. Each constitutent part of the UK is British, but it's also Scottish/Welsh/Northern Irish/English. Perhaps years ago someone should have coined a term like Kingdomian to signify in a less emotive/politicised way what it is to be a citizen of the UK. :)
It is a difficult thing to define in a cogent politically correct manner, nationhood, or national identity, damn I have to go, I'll post again later! Sorry for hijack CIAS!
Ha ha, I didn't use the Puerto Rican analogy because I don't know how much they consider themselves part of the US, and I thought it would be tacky to assume that they do. So, political correctness is part of these issues here, too!
But I think part of the confusion for Americans is that we tend to see ourselves as Americans first and residents of our states second (well, except maybe for Texans! ;)) But it seems at least to me that it's the other way around in Britain...that the key self-identifier is English, Welsh, or Scottish first and British second. Not sure if that's really true, or just flawed perception on my part.
I think the difference is the amount of history the constituent parts of the UK has. They have been fighting each other for the best part of 1500-2000 years or more as recorded countries. That's a lot of history, culture and identification which the USA just does not have.Quote:
Originally posted by Sarahfeena
How does your accent compare to other British accents? I mean, for those of us who aren't all that good at identifying different British accents, could you use characters from popular culture, as examples? I really, really want to believe you don't talk like Geoffrey Boycott. REALLY.
I think it was Twain who said that in America, a hundred years is a long time, while in Europe, a hundred miles is a long way.Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuit
I agree that the Constitution is a vital part of what binds Americans together, as well as generalized concepts like freedom, democracy, the rule of law and "the American way," define it as you will. But there are other patriotic symbols which do so, especially the flag, and also the Statue of Liberty, U.S. Capitol, White House, Liberty Bell, Golden Gate Bridge, etc. More broadly, it's cultural shared experiences like movies, TV shows, popular music, baseball, football, and so on.
You will be pleased to know I do not speak like Geoffrey Boycott.Quote:
Originally posted by spitz
My accent is quite weird as it has incorporated bits and pieces from all over the country. To the south, I sound like I am from the north, to the north, I sound like I am from the south, to the midlands, they haven't got a clue. :)
Where or what is Coulsdon?
This is CoulsdonQuote:
Originally posted by What Exit?
Have you ever actually eaten Spotted Dick? What about tripe? What about kippers for breakfast?
It's been more than a year, so I'll ask again: How do you think Cameron, Clegg & Co. are doing in Whitehall?
I believe so, a very long time ago. Best with hot custard. TBH, I prefer treacle sponge, although my teeth would rather I didn't.Quote:
Originally posted by The Original An Gadaí
I have never eaten tripe.
I have had Kippers for breakfast, with scrambled eggs. More often, people eat smoked salmon with scrambled eggs instead which is also delicious. Then there was the reheated kedgeree from the Night before, which may or may not count.
Some parts are going well, some parts aren't, but in general they are gholding it together. However, given all the problems, its amazing that Labour are not far ahead in the polls, but then people are still blaming them for the problems. Some cracks are beginning to appear and they are being dragged in different directions by the fringes of their respective parties.Quote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
The biggest breaking point was the failure of the Lib Dems to get AV through, which would have landed them in power as the minority swing party for ages. The price for holding the referendum was the redrawing of the political boundaries. However the Lib Dems are now refusing to support reform of the House of Lords and generally throwing their toys out of the pram. At the next election, they are likely to be decimated in terms of MPs, most of their support went back to Labour.
Yeah smoked salmon and scrambled eggs is heavenly. We have that occasionally.Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuit
Thanks for your answer. And I like this phrase very much. Yours?Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuit
"throwing toys out of the pram" is not my phrase but feel free to use it - effectively acting like a baby throwing a tantrum and should be treated as such.
What do y'all really think of Prince Charles? Is it going to be hard when his mother is gone and he is crowned? I admire her greatly, but him I'm not so sure about.
Prince Charles is a lot more polarising than his mother and also a lot more to use royal perogative, which rubs a lot of republicans (anti-monarchists, not US politicans) up the wrong way. It would also annoy certain politicians who would not like someone not prepared to let their bills through parliament.Quote:
Originally posted by Sarahfeena
It's strange he has been preparing for a role for so long and yet it could still be a decade or so before he is King. He is quite intelligent and several things he pointed out twenty years or so ago on green issues have been proved to fairly accurate
I think he will do just fine, perhaps slightly more abrasive, but the best thing for him was marrying Camilla. Ok, a lot of people still cling to this ideal of Diana, but Camilla has made him happy. Despite that, a lot of people would not like to see her made queen consort. One of those roles as King would be Defender of the Faith and both he and his wife are on the second marriage. Then again, it had Henry VIII in that role, so he wouldn't be the worst.
Out of the four of them, Anne would probably have been the best, but Charles is no slouch. Andrew is a little too free and the less said about Edward the better.
He won't be the best monarch ever, but he will certainly not be the worst.
The Royal Assent has not been withheld in three hundred years. I doubt Charles is going to be bucking that trend any time soon.Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuitPrince Charles is a lot more polarising than his mother and also a lot more to use royal perogative, which rubs a lot of republicans (anti-monarchists, not US politicans) up the wrong way. It would also annoy certain politicians who would not like someone not prepared to let their bills through parliament.Quote:
Originally posted by Sarahfeena
I'm trying to recall, if for some reason Prince Charles decides to pass the Kingship directly to his popular son is there a way for him to do this? I have the notion if he refused the crown it would pass to a sibling before his eldest. Is this correct?
Not that I know of, the lineage is through him at this point, although I may be missing an intricacy of the system.
I can't imagine him even contemplating such a thing though. He was born to be King, and AFAIK was raised to regard not wearing the Crown as the kind of shirking his regrettable great uncle did.
There was rumour that if Charles had become King while Blair was on the throne, Royal Assent was not going to be a foregone conclusionQuote:
Originally posted by Malacandra
As Rube puts it, if he declines the throne, I believe it would pass to Andrew and hence to Beatrice (wouldn't that be an interesting reign).Quote:
Originally posted by What Exit?
I can't see it happening though.
It's weird, but I think the marriage of Charles and Camilla really has helped improve his image. She really does seem to fit with the family more than Diana did, and everyone just seems a lot more comfortable.
Question for all the Brits (and non-Brits): Diana, hot or not?
Eh, not too hot.Quote:
Originally posted by OneCentStamp
It wouldn't happen in any event. Even if Charles immediately abdicated upon the death of his mother (extremely unlikely, as noted earlier), the throne would pass to his eldest son, Prince William, the Duke of Cambridge, not to any of the Queen's other children. Children of the heir succeed before siblings of the heir. Parliament could always change the line of succession as it saw fit, but I don't see that happening either.Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuitAs Rube puts it, if he declines the throne, I believe it would pass to Andrew and hence to Beatrice (wouldn't that be an interesting reign).Quote:
Originally posted by What Exit?
I can't see it happening though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of...British_throne
HM Queen Elizabeth II (b. 1926) Reigning monarchQuote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
HRH The Prince of Wales (Prince Charles; b. 1948) B D W
HRH The Duke of Cambridge (Prince William; b. 1982) B D W
HRH Prince Henry (Harry) of Wales (b. 1984) B D W
HRH The Duke of York (Prince Andrew; b. 1960) B D W
HRH Princess Beatrice of York (b. 1988) B D W
HRH Princess Eugenie of York (b. 1990) B D W
HRH The Earl of Wessex (Prince Edward; b. 1964) B D W
Viscount Severn (James Windsor; b. 2007) B D W
The Lady Louise Windsor (b. 2003) B D W
HRH The Princess Royal (Princess Anne; b. 1950) B D W
Peter Phillips (b. 1977) B D W
Savannah Phillips (b. 2010) B D W
Zara Tindall, MBE (b. 1981) B D W
Viscount Linley (David Armstrong-Jones; b. 1961) B D W
The Hon. Charles Armstrong-Jones (b. 1999) B D W
The Hon. Margarita Armstrong-Jones (b. 2002) B D W
The Lady Sarah Chatto (b. 1964) B D W
Samuel Chatto (b. 1996) B D W
Arthur Chatto (b. 1999) B D W
HRH The Duke of Gloucester (Prince Richard; b. 1944) B D W
Earl of Ulster (Alexander Windsor; b. 1974) B D W
Lord Culloden (Xan Windsor; b. 2007) B D W
The Lady Cosima Windsor (b. 2010) B D W
The Lady Davina Lewis (b. 1977) B D W
Senna Lewis (b. 2010) B W
The Lady Rose Gilman (b. 1980) B D W
Lyla Gilman (b. 2010) B
HRH The Duke of Kent (Prince Edward; b. 1935) B D
Earl of St Andrews (George Windsor; b. 1962) XM / D W
Lord Downpatrick (Edward Windsor; b. 1988) XC / D W
The Lady Marina-Charlotte Windsor (b. 1992) XC / W
The Lady Amelia Windsor (b. 1995) B D
The Lord Nicholas Windsor (b. 1970) XC / D W
Albert Windsor (b. 2007) [n 2]
Leopold Windsor (b. 2009)
The Lady Helen Taylor (b. 1964) D [n 3]
Columbus Taylor (b. 1994) D
Cassius Taylor (b. 1996) D
Eloise Taylor (b. 2003) D
Estella Taylor (b. 2004) D
HRH Prince Michael of Kent (b. 1942) XM / D W
The Lord Frederick Windsor (b. 1979) B D
The Lady Gabriella Windsor (b. 1981) B
HRH Princess Alexandra, The Honourable Lady Ogilvy (b. 1936) B
James Ogilvy (b. 1964) W
Alexander Ogilvy (b. 1996) W
Flora Ogilvy (b. 1994) W
Marina Ogilvy (b. 1966) W
Christian Mowatt (b. 1993) W
Zenouska Mowatt (b. 1990) W
Peter O'Toole
John Goodman
There are rumours that Harry isn't Charles's son, and that Prince Philip had Diana murdered, too. :DQuote:
Originally posted by CatInASuitThere was rumour that if Charles had become King while Blair was on the throne, Royal Assent was not going to be a foregone conclusionQuote:
Originally posted by Malacandra
What.Quote:
Originally posted by OneCentStampHM Queen Elizabeth II (b. 1926) Reigning monarchQuote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
HRH The Prince of Wales (Prince Charles; b. 1948) B D W
HRH The Duke of Cambridge (Prince William; b. 1982) B D W
HRH Prince Henry (Harry) of Wales (b. 1984) B D W
HRH The Duke of York (Prince Andrew; b. 1960) B D W
HRH Princess Beatrice of York (b. 1988) B D W
HRH Princess Eugenie of York (b. 1990) B D W
HRH The Earl of Wessex (Prince Edward; b. 1964) B D W
Viscount Severn (James Windsor; b. 2007) B D W
The Lady Louise Windsor (b. 2003) B D W
HRH The Princess Royal (Princess Anne; b. 1950) B D W
Peter Phillips (b. 1977) B D W
Savannah Phillips (b. 2010) B D W
Zara Tindall, MBE (b. 1981) B D W
Viscount Linley (David Armstrong-Jones; b. 1961) B D W
The Hon. Charles Armstrong-Jones (b. 1999) B D W
The Hon. Margarita Armstrong-Jones (b. 2002) B D W
The Lady Sarah Chatto (b. 1964) B D W
Samuel Chatto (b. 1996) B D W
Arthur Chatto (b. 1999) B D W
HRH The Duke of Gloucester (Prince Richard; b. 1944) B D W
Earl of Ulster (Alexander Windsor; b. 1974) B D W
Lord Culloden (Xan Windsor; b. 2007) B D W
The Lady Cosima Windsor (b. 2010) B D W
The Lady Davina Lewis (b. 1977) B D W
Senna Lewis (b. 2010) B W
The Lady Rose Gilman (b. 1980) B D W
Lyla Gilman (b. 2010) B
HRH The Duke of Kent (Prince Edward; b. 1935) B D
Earl of St Andrews (George Windsor; b. 1962) XM / D W
Lord Downpatrick (Edward Windsor; b. 1988) XC / D W
The Lady Marina-Charlotte Windsor (b. 1992) XC / W
The Lady Amelia Windsor (b. 1995) B D
The Lord Nicholas Windsor (b. 1970) XC / D W
Albert Windsor (b. 2007) [n 2]
Leopold Windsor (b. 2009)
The Lady Helen Taylor (b. 1964) D [n 3]
Columbus Taylor (b. 1994) D
Cassius Taylor (b. 1996) D
Eloise Taylor (b. 2003) D
Estella Taylor (b. 2004) D
HRH Prince Michael of Kent (b. 1942) XM / D W
The Lord Frederick Windsor (b. 1979) B D
The Lady Gabriella Windsor (b. 1981) B
HRH Princess Alexandra, The Honourable Lady Ogilvy (b. 1936) B
James Ogilvy (b. 1964) W
Alexander Ogilvy (b. 1996) W
Flora Ogilvy (b. 1994) W
Marina Ogilvy (b. 1966) W
Christian Mowatt (b. 1993) W
Zenouska Mowatt (b. 1990) W
Peter O'Toole
John Goodman
Based on a pair of movies I believe, thrown in as a joke.Quote:
Originally posted by MalacandraWhat.Quote:
Originally posted by OneCentStamp
Besides Peter would make a damn fine King.
An Irish king?! That allowed? :)Quote:
Originally posted by What Exit?Based on a pair of movies I believe, thrown in as a joke.Quote:
Originally posted by MalacandraWhat.Quote:
Originally posted by OneCentStamp
Besides Peter would make a damn fine King.
The movie is VERY loosely based on the 1980 novel Headlong by Emlyn Williams, which I read last year. It's actually pretty good. Key differences: It's set in the 1930s, and the new King is an Englishman, not an American. It's funny, but not an out-and-out farce like King Ralph.Quote:
Originally posted by OneCentStamp
Touche.Quote:
Originally posted by MalacandraThere are rumours that Harry isn't Charles's son, and that Prince Philip had Diana murdered, too. :DQuote:
Originally posted by CatInASuitThere was rumour that if Charles had become King while Blair was on the throne, Royal Assent was not going to be a foregone conclusionQuote:
Originally posted by Malacandra
Who is the first president of UK?