Drama Queens and the inability to let go

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Originally posted by Oakminster

I'd suggest most "new" and/or relatively unknown posters stay out of the pit, or at least try to avoid direct conflict with people at first. Show us some merit...contribute to regular threads on topics of interest, let us get to know you and respect you for awhile.

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Fuck this bullshit and fuck you for writing it. Thanks to you, this is how I'm making my inaugural post on this board. I get it that because I'm not one of the "top tier" "A-listers" you have no desire to read my meager contributions alongside your great ones, but What The Fuck?

I don't give a shit if you "respect me for awhile (sic)" before I'm "allowed" to contribute whatever the fuck I want! Who are you to tell me where and how to post or that I need to "show (who again?) some MERIT?"

Avoid direct contact with people? What the fuck!?! Are you serious?? Well, I for sure as fuck won't let the door hit my ass on the way out. See? Your suggestion worked like a fucking charm.

Pretty damn good for a first timer! :D

I was with you until the bit about you taking your ball and going home. That's silly. He doesn't speak for everyone. I could practically feel your spittle flying at me when I read your post, and that means you certainly belong here in the Thunderdome.

Direct conflict, dumbass. Not contact. Simply saying debuting on a board by jumping in and slinging flames the way the OP did in this thread is not a good way to introduce oneself.

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Originally posted by Oakminster

Direct conflict, dumbass. Not contact. Simply saying debuting on a board by jumping in and slinging flames the way the OP did in this thread is not a good way to introduce oneself.

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But it doesn't matter. SFP is a tool but it's not because he's "new" or whatever. If someone flames another poster and their complaints are not valid I will think them a fool whoever they are. But if they are right then I would laugh and agree.

This board is brand new. We are all newbies here.

So...rachet the Member List down one, I take it?

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Originally posted by silenus

So...rachet the Member List down one, I take it?

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I hope not. She showed great promise.

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Originally posted by Myrnalene

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Originally posted by silenus

So...rachet the Member List down one, I take it?

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I hope not. She showed great promise.

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Eh. Good form, but lacking on follow-through. I think she lifted her head on the backswing.

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Originally posted by misshannah

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Originally posted by Oakminster

I'd suggest most "new" and/or relatively unknown posters stay out of the pit, or at least try to avoid direct conflict with people at first. Show us some merit...contribute to regular threads on topics of interest, let us get to know you and respect you for awhile.

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Fuck this bullshit and fuck you for writing it. Thanks to you, this is how I'm making my inaugural post on this board. I get it that because I'm not one of the "top tier" "A-listers" you have no desire to read my meager contributions alongside your great ones, but What The Fuck?

I don't give a shit if you "respect me for awhile (sic)" before I'm "allowed" to contribute whatever the fuck I want! Who are you to tell me where and how to post or that I need to "show (who again?) some MERIT?"

Avoid direct contact with people? What the fuck!?! Are you serious?? Well, I for sure as fuck won't let the door hit my ass on the way out. See? Your suggestion worked like a fucking charm.

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Heh heh heh, you sound fun, misshannah. Please don't take what Oakminster said seriously.

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Originally posted by misshannah

Fuck this bullshit and fuck [Oakminster] for writing it.
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Well, I for sure as fuck won't let the door hit my ass on the way out. See? Your suggestion worked like a fucking charm.

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See, now, this here is why Oakminster is dead wrong on this particular point. Welcome to domebo.

I would like to state, for anyone who may be interested or perhaps incapacitated and unable to close the thread or otherwise look away, that no one on this board speaks for me. My views are not represented by anyone else's words. People are speaking for themselves and represent themselves--not everyone, not the board, and not me.

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Originally posted by Julie

I would like to state, for anyone who may be interested or perhaps incapacitated and unable to close the thread or otherwise look away, that no one on this board speaks for me. My views are not represented by anyone else's words. People are speaking for themselves and represent themselves--not everyone, not the board, and not me.

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Yeah, what she said.

You may treat her as my spokesperson in the future.

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Originally posted by Oakminster

I'd suggest most "new" and/or relatively unknown posters stay out of the pit, or at least try to avoid direct conflict with people at first. Show us some merit...contribute to regular threads on topics of interest, let us get to know you and respect you for awhile.

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I don't understand. I think this is sound advice, and I offered it without malice. It's what I do whenever I join a board where I'm not known. Why is it such a horrible thing to say?

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Originally posted by Oakminster

I don't understand. I think this is sound advice, and I offered it without malice. It's what I do whenever I join a board where I'm not known. Why is it such a horrible thing to say?

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At very minimum, it's sort of silly. What, are people going to be outraged by the terribly rough-and-tumble culture of the thunderdome, until they become used to it after a few weeks of lurking? Please.

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Originally posted by Excalibre

What, are people going to be outraged by the terribly rough-and-tumble culture of the thunderdome, until they become used to it after a few weeks of lurking?

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I don't think that's what he means.

I'm thinking he's talking about the OP. I think he's saying that a person should hang around a board for a while, kind of get acquainted with the other posters, let everyone get a good idea of who they are, before they jump off into the Thunderdome with a rant; and get a better reception because of doing that first.

Whether you agree with him or not is, of course, a different matter.

Also muddying the waters here is the fact that the OP was a poster on the other board for a while, so he wasn't actually an unknown quantity. Maybe Oakminster just never noticed him.

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Originally posted by NinetyWt

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Originally posted by Excalibre

What, are people going to be outraged by the terribly rough-and-tumble culture of the thunderdome, until they become used to it after a few weeks of lurking?

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I don't think that's what he means.

I'm thinking he's talking about the OP. I think he's saying that a person should hang around a board for a while, kind of get acquainted with the other posters, let everyone get a good idea of who they are, before they jump off into the Thunderdome with a rant; and get a better reception because of doing that first.

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Well, okay. Although it seems like "don't post really terribly stupid shit" would suffice.

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Originally posted by NinetyWt

I think he's saying that a person should hang around a board for a while, kind of get acquainted with the other posters, let everyone get a good idea of who they are, before they jump off into the Thunderdome with a rant; and get a better reception because of doing that first.

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Really thought that's what I said.

As for SFP, he's been registered at the Dope for 9 years, has 766 posts according to his profile. I never noticed him until recently.

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Originally posted by Excalibre

Well, okay. Although it seems like "don't post really terribly stupid shit" would suffice.

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I'm not sure that brevity is his specialty. ;)

Ooops, oh hi Oakminster. :P

Could someone provide a link to the thread he started on the Dope that's the same OP as this one? I searched for threads started by Stink Fish Pot, but there's nothing. Methinks it's been disappeared, but perhaps my search-fu is weak today. Many thanks.

I would like to reiterate what Julie said..no one here speaks for me but me. As far as I'm concerned everyone is welcome here unless they post for the sole purpose of causing strife. I can't hate on someone for posting something stupid. Stones...glass houses...all that.

So who's the Drama Queen that can't let go, Liberal or Stinkfish Pot? Is Stinkfish Pot pitting himself?

Look over yonder in the BBQ pit for a (locked) thread with the words Queen and Drama in it. It's still on page 1.

Let's not discourage posters who only stir up shit. Compost needs be turned to become fertile. Besides some people just don't have anything else to contribute.

Glazer, I liked your first icon better. You look like Frank Zappa, there. He was a musical genius and all, but ...

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Originally posted by Excalibre

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Originally posted by NinetyWt

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Originally posted by Excalibre

What, are people going to be outraged by the terribly rough-and-tumble culture of the thunderdome, until they become used to it after a few weeks of lurking?

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I don't think that's what he means.

I'm thinking he's talking about the OP. I think he's saying that a person should hang around a board for a while, kind of get acquainted with the other posters, let everyone get a good idea of who they are, before they jump off into the Thunderdome with a rant; and get a better reception because of doing that first.

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Well, okay. Although it seems like "don't post really terribly stupid shit" would suffice.

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I don't quite think they're the same things though.

"Don't post really terribly stupid shit if you want to be better received as a new poster" is really something that goes without saying. It really should be obvious enough that you wouldn't offer that as blanket advise to all new posters.

The advise given though is a bit more subtle to me. I'd pretty much give similar advise and here's what my rationale would be. The way people get to know you is by how you post. People read your thoughts, interact with you and form an opinion about you based on this. The pit like fora are usually heated, emotionally charged places where people don't generally present their better sides. It stands to reason then that someones first impression of you probably isn't going to be well served if that impression is a typical pit rant. Make that pit rant about someone who is known for more than their pit persona and you can see how that one is going to turn out.

Who are you again? Oh, right. The 9,432nd person to post shit about Lib. As you can see, all those efforts have truly sucked the guys will to live right out of him. He's practically in tears, I'm sure.

Go post somewhere else for a while and learn how to spew some fucking vitriol, these standard "Fuck you Liberal" threads are a dime a dozen.

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Originally posted by Cluricaun

Who are you again? Oh, right. The 9,432nd person to post shit about Lib. As you can see, all those efforts have truly sucked the guys will to live right out of him. He's practically in tears, I'm sure.

Go post somewhere else for a while and learn how to spew some fucking vitriol, these standard "Fuck you Liberal" threads are a dime a dozen.

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You know, without a quote that really looked like it was addressed at me until the third sentence. No problem but I was like "wow!" :)

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Originally posted by Oakminster

I think he's saying that a person should hang around a board for a while, kind of get acquainted with the other posters, let everyone get a good idea of who they are, before they jump off into the Thunderdome with a rant; and get a better reception because of doing that first.

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There's something to be said for judging a post on its own merits, and not your opinion of the personality behind it. You'd be suprised how often a fresh set of eyes can see through the bullshit others miss.

I'll address this post and then I'll bow out. One, because I think it's run its course. Two, I will never get the last word in anyway, so responding will keep this thread will just keep people like Oakminster up.

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Originally posted by Oakminster

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Originally posted by Orual

Well, there was the "ban him" post - which apparently is supposed to be a joke. And Oakminister's attitude of "we all hate you and want you to leave".

I'd hoped this board would get to be at least a month old before we started in with the doorknob-ass posts.

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Originally posted by Oakminster

The ban hamster was a joke. As for the other...well, the guy has been trolling Q.E.D. shamelessly at the Dope, he originally posted the OP for this thread at the Dope, and only came here after that thread was locked for attempting to incite a board war.

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I didn't care about the ban hamster. I just wonder how long it would have taken you to hit "report this post" or tell me to do a sexual act with an animal if I had posted it to you. Your skin is mighty thin. And you must think mine is, because that was to get a rise out of me. It didn't work.

As for this accusation of trolling QED, I don't think you have the evidence to support that. I did post in one thread right after he did. Like I said, QED can and does take care of himself rather well. I guess I did post shamelessly, though, because I didn't have anything to be ashamed of. The other parts of your post have already been addressed up-thread. Except to say that I had no intention of staring a board war. That seemed to be the opinion of prr, who reported the post. That's fine. Ed didn't see it that way, and Gfactor understood that wasn't what I was trying to do either. But your outrage only works if your story is true.

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Originally posted by Oakminster

His contributions here have mostly been limited to this thread, where he's made a royal ass of himself. That shit just doesn't fly with me. If he wants to be a member here, fine...but he needs to bring something to the table besides shit-stirring, and that's all he's offered so far. Pit-style rants don't carry much weight unless the ranter has some established history of positive contributions to let people know he's more than just another pissed off fuckwit.

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Now, this is simply not true. I checked. Only about half of my posts are here, and that does not translate to "contributions ...mostly been limited to this thread...", now does it? I have posted in other areas, but I don't need to bring anything else to the table to satisfy you. You are a poster here, just like me. No more, no less. When you run your own board, invite the people you want, have the secret handshake, then you can dictate terms. Until then, you are just a windbag.

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Originally posted by Oakminster

I'd suggest most "new" and/or relatively unknown posters stay out of the pit, or at least try to avoid direct conflict with people at first. Show us some merit...contribute to regular threads on topics of interest, let us get to know you and respect you for awhile.

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This is my favorite suggestion. Perhaps you could get that put in an FAQ, and direct us poor souls to the "thread of purgatory" until such time as you decide we are ready to join the group. Maybe you could change your user name to Edminster or OakBodini. Show you some merit. pffft. Where are your "merit" postings? Does everyone else in here posting have a secret merit posting file?

Tell me, oh sage one, what topics interest you? I'm here for you. And only you. How does your neck hold up that massive head of yours?

Please... thrash about. I'm going to look around the boards for a while. Maybe I'll post something. Maybe I won't. But you won't bully me out of the Pit, Thunderdome, Beyond Thunderdome, or anywhere else I have the ability to post. I don't fear you. In fact, I don't really think about you. You simply aren't that important to me. People like featherlou are important. People like NinetyWt. They can actually communicate without condescending. You on the other hand, seem to have placed yourself and your opinions higher than anyone else's. The only thing I can really guess from your posts is that you'd like to see the dope fail, Ed lose his job, and a chance to run back there and tell them "I told you so", even though the reality is that you are dying to go back there and run it your way. (Naturally, your way would be the right way.)

See you around the boards, tough guy.

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Originally posted by Julie

I would like to state, for anyone who may be interested or perhaps incapacitated and unable to close the thread or otherwise look away, that no one on this board speaks for me. My views are not represented by anyone else's words. People are speaking for themselves and represent themselves--not everyone, not the board, and not me.

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I think what Julie is saying is that she would rather... What? Oh.

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Originally posted by ladyfoxfyre

The part I love about situations such as these, is when the OP is put in the interesting position of defending so angrily how much this whole thing is not a big deal. The more you compound it, the more pathetic you sound, trying to pull shreds of evidence about why everybody around you sucks so much. I mean, there's only so many times you can call a community you are a part of a group of pathetic losers with no outside interests before people start to wonder why you seem to have nothing better to do.

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There is some truth to what ladyfoxfyre says here. I do have other, better things to do. I also don't believe the entire group is a bunch of pathetic losers. But I've said what I wanted to say. No need to rehash it or defend myself.

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Originally posted by Stink Fish Pot

But I've said what I wanted to say.

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And what was that exactly?

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Originally posted by Hockey Monkey

Could someone provide a link to the thread he started on the Dope that's the same OP as this one? I searched for threads started by Stink Fish Pot, but there's nothing. Methinks it's been disappeared, but perhaps my search-fu is weak today. Many thanks.

I would like to reiterate what Julie said..no one here speaks for me but me. As far as I'm concerned everyone is welcome here unless they post for the sole purpose of causing strife. I can't hate on someone for posting something stupid. Stones...glass houses...all that.

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http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/sho ... p?t=509721
Enjoy.

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Originally posted by Axxon

You know, without a quote that really looked like it was addressed at me until the third sentence. No problem but I was like "wow!" :)

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Ha! Sorry about that, that was totally against the OP.

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Originally posted by Stink Fish Pot

I also don't believe the entire group is a bunch of pathetic losers.

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We aren't?


Fuck.


I thought I'd finally found a place among my own kind.

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Originally posted by silenus

We aren't?


Fuck.


I thought I'd finally found a place among my own kind.

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Dude, there's nothing like reading this while looking at that avatar. Thanks for being here.

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Originally posted by Oakminster

I think he's saying that a person should hang around a board for a while, kind of get acquainted with the other posters, let everyone get a good idea of who they are, before they jump off into the Thunderdome with a rant; and get a better reception because of doing that first.

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Jeff, honey, I said that, not Oakminster. The quote tags must have gotcha! :)

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Originally posted by Stink Fish Pot

I'll address this post and then I'll bow out. One, because I think it's run its course. Two, I will never get the last word in anyway, so responding will keep this thread will just keep people like Oakminster up.

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Originally posted by Oakminster

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Originally posted by Orual

Well, there was the "ban him" post - which apparently is supposed to be a joke. And Oakminister's attitude of "we all hate you and want you to leave".

I'd hoped this board would get to be at least a month old before we started in with the doorknob-ass posts.

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Originally posted by Oakminster

The ban hamster was a joke. As for the other...well, the guy has been trolling Q.E.D. shamelessly at the Dope, he originally posted the OP for this thread at the Dope, and only came here after that thread was locked for attempting to incite a board war.

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I didn't care about the ban hamster. I just wonder how long it would have taken you to hit "report this post" or tell me to do a sexual act with an animal if I had posted it to you. Your skin is mighty thin. And you must think mine is, because that was to get a rise out of me. It didn't work.

As for this accusation of trolling QED, I don't think you have the evidence to support that. I did post in one thread right after he did. Like I said, QED can and does take care of himself rather well. I guess I did post shamelessly, though, because I didn't have anything to be ashamed of. The other parts of your post have already been addressed up-thread. Except to say that I had no intention of staring a board war. That seemed to be the opinion of prr, who reported the post. That's fine. Ed didn't see it that way, and Gfactor understood that wasn't what I was trying to do either. But your outrage only works if your story is true.

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Originally posted by Oakminster

His contributions here have mostly been limited to this thread, where he's made a royal ass of himself. That shit just doesn't fly with me. If he wants to be a member here, fine...but he needs to bring something to the table besides shit-stirring, and that's all he's offered so far. Pit-style rants don't carry much weight unless the ranter has some established history of positive contributions to let people know he's more than just another pissed off fuckwit.

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Now, this is simply not true. I checked. Only about half of my posts are here, and that does not translate to "contributions ...mostly been limited to this thread...", now does it? I have posted in other areas, but I don't need to bring anything else to the table to satisfy you. You are a poster here, just like me. No more, no less. When you run your own board, invite the people you want, have the secret handshake, then you can dictate terms. Until then, you are just a windbag.

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Originally posted by Oakminster

I'd suggest most "new" and/or relatively unknown posters stay out of the pit, or at least try to avoid direct conflict with people at first. Show us some merit...contribute to regular threads on topics of interest, let us get to know you and respect you for awhile.

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This is my favorite suggestion. Perhaps you could get that put in an FAQ, and direct us poor souls to the "thread of purgatory" until such time as you decide we are ready to join the group. Maybe you could change your user name to Edminster or OakBodini. Show you some merit. pffft. Where are your "merit" postings? Does everyone else in here posting have a secret merit posting file?

Tell me, oh sage one, what topics interest you? I'm here for you. And only you. How does your neck hold up that massive head of yours?

Please... thrash about. I'm going to look around the boards for a while. Maybe I'll post something. Maybe I won't. But you won't bully me out of the Pit, Thunderdome, Beyond Thunderdome, or anywhere else I have the ability to post. I don't fear you. In fact, I don't really think about you. You simply aren't that important to me. People like featherlou are important. People like NinetyWt. They can actually communicate without condescending. You on the other hand, seem to have placed yourself and your opinions higher than anyone else's. The only thing I can really guess from your posts is that you'd like to see the dope fail, Ed lose his job, and a chance to run back there and tell them "I told you so", even though the reality is that you are dying to go back there and run it your way. (Naturally, your way would be the right way.)

See you around the boards, tough guy.

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TLDR. When come back, bring clue.

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Originally posted by Stink Fish Pot

<snip> But you won't bully me out of the Pit, Thunderdome, Beyond Thunderdome, or anywhere else I have the ability to post. <snip>

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Good. The more people we have here with differing viewpoints, the more interesting it is.

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People like featherlou are important. <snip>

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I think I've found a new sigline. :mrgreen:

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Originally posted by NinetyWt

Glazer, I liked your first icon better. You look like Frank Zappa, there. He was a musical genius and all, but ...

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There is that better. This is the best pic I have of me.

Haha! No, the cowboy hat one is cute.

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Originally posted by Oakminster

I think he's saying that a person should hang around a board for a while, kind of get acquainted with the other posters, let everyone get a good idea of who they are, before they jump off into the Thunderdome with a rant; and get a better reception because of doing that first.

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Jeff, honey, I said that, not Oakminster. The quote tags must have gotcha! :)

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He's clearly your sock. There can be no other possible explanation. ;)

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Originally posted by Glazer

There is that better. This is the best pic I have of me.

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You look about the same in both. ;P

Not much I can do with this mug.

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He's clearly your sock. There can be no other possible explanation. ;)

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Ahem. We prefer Evil Twin™.

I'm confused.

Is this really a three page thread about the Pot calling the kettle an asshole?
Really?


Oh, and I second Excalibre's post #112.

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Is this really a three page thread about the Pot calling the kettle an asshole?
Really?

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Yes, and pushing it one post closer to four pages after it was dead for two days was clearly the way to go.

I would have waited to bump this thread, but the previous post made it irresistible.

Oh god yes. Now there's a certain "taboo" feeling to posting to this thread, kind of like having sex at work or in public which just makes it exciting. Except...uh, I've never had sex at work or in public which sort of tells you how sad it is that I'm posting to this dead thread at 5AM.

Oh jesus, I need a life.

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Originally posted by Fiveroptic

Oh jesus, I need a life.

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Sorry, we're all out of lives at the moment. Could I interest you in an existence?

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Originally posted by EddyTeddyFreddy

Sorry, we're all out of lives at the moment. Could I interest you in an existence?

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EDDYTEDDYFREDDY YOU DRAMA QUEEN

WHY ARE YOU UNABLE TO LET IT GO?