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Too soon. :devil: :dance:Quote:
Originally posted by general_urko
Right - I see. Collins is MOAR playing Graham like an Elasian zither...
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Originally posted by anyroseToo soon. :devil: :dance:Quote:
Originally posted by general_urko
Right - I see. Collins is MOAR playing Graham like an Elasian zither...
Nice writing anyrose. :dumbo:
It was Rangin who came up with the tricorder timer trick that saved at least one life, not that its ever been mentioned in game since. :roll:
Thank you.
The concert starts at 5:30pm, and also that's when most people finish dinner? Is this a starship or a senior citizens' community?
Yeah. Couldn't it be closer to 19:30?
Well, the watch* did end at 4pm, so that's plenty of time for early evening entertainment.
Then again, Collins hasn't even had a meal since she went straight to SickBay.
* - eegads, I got it right this time
From experience, I can tell you that an emotional explosion like Collins just had does wonders to kill one's appetite.
Jeez, choie, you're gonna ruin your engine switching gears like that so quickly. :dance:
:D I might have dissociative identity disorder by Mission #5.
Awww, that's so sweet, seeing as he meant every damn word of it. :devil: But he was definitely upset...by Kylah...by Graham...by Collins... :fishbeat:Quote:
Originally posted by anyrose
Somewhat interesting take on the Star Trek economy and links to the forthcoming "Trekonomics" book:
http://fusion.net/story/197297/star-...-already-here/
Hi everyone. My deepest apologies for not participating for a while. My mom is now in hospice and when I'm not at work, I'm spending as much time with her as possible. I'm also dealing with the many legal and financial issues end of life creates.
Thanks for your understanding. I would very much appreciate your thoughts and prayers right now.
WES
I'm so sorry, WES. This must be excruciatingly difficult and exhausting for you and your family. I hope you have good support and are somehow able to take care of yourself, too. I'll be thinking of you. :hug:
My thoughts and prayers are with you WES. Take care of yourself.
{{{{{WES}}}}}
Sending very best wishes your way, WES....
WES I think our sympathy and best wishes is all we can send you way, but if technobabble would help in this hard time, give the word and you shall have it.
How freakin' awesome is this virtual tour of the Enterprise D?
Very - thanks!Quote:
Originally posted by anyrose
FYI, I'll be in Gettysburg this weekend with friends, and may only be able to post in the evenings.
CIAS, really nice writing for Rangin there. It's nice to learn more about Velir's rough background, and his feelings of guilt are sad to see.
anyrose, that tour is amazing!
Have fun in Gettysburg, EH.
P.S. Hey how did Fariz "You Gotta Get Laid" Mahmoud not ask Graham for more details on his date with Nia "Ship's Mattress" Onn?! :)
Hmm, looks like everyone's turned in for the night. What shenanigans lie ahead?
anyrose - that tour is excellent
choie/G_U - So amused Rangin is the reason it didn't go any further between the pair. Something else for Graham to be grumpy over at him.
EH - have fun in Gettysberg
Thanks - touring the battlefields today with some friends. My fifth time here, and there's always more to learn.
Don't worry about Ajay and T'Var, they have a relaxing evening of meditation and chess ahead of them.
Apocrypha story coming soon.
The psycho bully rumors now sown throughout the ship should help too :fist:Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuit
I admit to very Yankee and perhaps impolitic instincts: having walked those fields too, I always think Sherman should have finished the job - a la Rome and Carthage.Quote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
Sherman wasn't at Gettysburg, of course, but I know what you mean. Segregation and lynching for a century after the Civil War does not incline one kindly towards Southerners of that era.
We lost the peace: Northern military occupation of certain counties should never have ended through the 1960's if not the present day.Quote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
Easier said than done. That was never going to happen after 1877; Northern public support for it was very wobbly even then.
You're totally right of course, but that's all the more damming, sadly. One would have hoped Jim Crow would have provoked a terrible swift sword, but instead it got a "meh."Quote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
I thought "meh" was the standard 'murican response to such horrors... it certainly has been lately.
With political gridlock in Washington, it has unfortunately become an all-too-frequent response.
Rumours...merely informing the rest of the crew about Graham's behaviour :fishbeat:Quote:
Originally posted by general_urko
Holy cow, after inching along we've suddenly leapt three days! Damn, I wish Graham had checked his messages while he had the chance.
I also hope some or at least any part of what I wrote for Kylah made sense. :D
I'm going to go ahead and assume that on at least one of the three nights, maybe two, Collins and Cooper used one of those designated assignation rooms
You're free to fill in some back-story if you wish.
Thank goodness I remember some of the beginning of Contact--drawing on my memory of Ellie Arroway here. :D
What I love about this crew is that assessing your odds in a mano-a-mano confrontation with your *colleagues* seems perfectly natural.... :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by anyrose
Ha! True. And actually I think Collins is overestimating her opponent. Nia can take a beating to some extent--the scales help a little in diffusing the impact of a blow, although they're more useful against piercing weapons, claws, teeth, nails, etc. But her strength isn't great. If Collins is lucky to catch her at the end of her 48-hour period before she gets her replenishment of Sidonian atmospheric elements, Nia's endurance would be at zilch.Quote:
Originally posted by general_urko
Besides, Jeremi's a strong and well-trained security officer. I'm sure she's had much more combat experience than Nia has.
The idea of the double date is hilarious. I only wish it could happen before either Collins or Graham find out about their partners' pasts.
Just saw The Martian this afternoon and loved it. A great sf tale of grit, determination, ingenuity and know-how: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej3ioOneTy8
Cool, I'm really looking forward to seeing that, hopefully before I get entirely spoiled.
Hey you know, you can delete your own posts rather than using "nm." :) Just click "Edit post," then when the inline editing window appears, look for the button that says "Delete" and click. Voila!
"The University of Anubis," heh. That's like if we had "Earth College." :D
Well, it hasn't been settled for that long. Not enough time for the profusion of colleges and universities that Earth has accumulated over the millennia.
I think East Anubis State dominates them on the gridiron though...
Yeah but U of A has the better theatre department. :dance:
Some Onn-Graham Apocrypha filling in the last couple days...
"Could it have harmful effects? How about Ens. Graham from Security?" Rangin replies.Quote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
Yep, this takes place, um, I guess it would be two days ago--the morning after Nia/Graham's date. And it was very fun to write with you, GU!Quote:
Originally posted by general_urko
Likewise!Quote:
Originally posted by choieYep, this takes place, um, I guess it would be two days ago--the morning after Nia/Graham's date. And it was very fun to write with you, GU!Quote:
Originally posted by general_urko
Yes, that was fun. Some good mental images there!
EH, please let us know when this watch is over, and give us a chance to post before you declare it "tomorrow". Thanks
Will do.
Yes I know I mistyped BCDO in my latest Nia piece. Right? :) I keep thinking it's "Bridge Commander of the Day" instead of "Bridge Command Duty Officer." What can I say, I've watched more M*A*S*H (where they had "officer of the day") than Star Trek.
No worries. I'll fix it.
Hey, can I ask a dumb question (one that I think my characters would already know, so I wouldn't be able to ask in-game)?
These biosensors that keep being affected by the prototype... what the heck do they do? What are they used for?
At a guess, I'd say identifying life forms
As an example, Rangin was using the bio-sensors to try and locate Kylah after the assault on Anubis.
But given the huge population, it was a proverbial needle in a haystack, which is why he switched to a magnet :sci:
FYI our company's annual conference runs the next couple days, so I may be hit or miss Tues & Weds.
Correct - finding, identifying, studying, cataloguing, etc.Quote:
Originally posted by anyrose
Hope the conference goes well, general!
Thanks for the elucidation, guys. And that's why I'm primarily playing a Communications specialist rather than a scientist. :)
Have a good time at the conference, g_u.
Damn, once again Collins has some amazing perceptive abilities that put Kylah's empathic powers to shame. I can understand her thinking that Nia and Cooper had some kind of weird issues with one another, but to immediately figure out that they were romantically involved? Too bad about that miscarriage back on OCIII, because with her mad detecting skillz I think she could've solved the Wilson murder all by herself in under a day! :D
She didn't "figure it out", she's guessing based on intuition. If Cooper and Onn had been adversaries, Onn would not have please that that's who Collins is involved with. But if she said "I guess you used to date her" that sounds jealous and petty. The way she phrased it is meant to elicit information, nothing more. Y'know, like the protagonist saying something completely outrageous, to which the antagonist says "Yes! how did you know?" and the protagonist answers "You just told me"
I'm back in black. Well, after I sleep for 16 hours...conference all good, thanks for the best wishes!
Glad to hear it, and welcome back.
With WES's permission, I am sorry to have to tell you that her mom died earlier this week. Our best wishes and heartfelt condolences are with her, of course.
{{{{{{{WES}}}}}}}
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Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
I'm so very sorry, WES. Please know we're here for you and are thinking of you.
Wow, Bennett kinda sucks as BCDO, doesn't she? A half-hour into her watch, she's abandoning her post to check out hot guys with swords? Clearly a gal with her priorities straight. :D
They are indeed.Quote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
Could always try the galley and stores. We have all sorts of food delivery devices. :DQuote:
Originally posted by general_urko
I can't believe I am at the mercy of Rangin. I mean Graham is at the mercy of a PC played by the same player as Rangin.Quote:
Originally posted by AjayCould always try the galley and stores. We have all sorts of food delivery devices. :DQuote:
Originally posted by general_urko
OK maybe I'm taking this too seriously... :D
"OK, so this game is called 'Goad Ens. Graham into doing something that gets him thrown off the ship,' and here's how it's played," Rangin replies. :oQuote:
Originally posted by choie
I may have rushed the movie, but Collins and Cooper are fine until the timeline catches up with them
Don't worry about that, they're independent of each other. That doesn't mean Mr Johnson isn't going to have a little fun while he's at it. :DQuote:
Originally posted by general_urko
Y'all are doing great. If you can do so without rushing, let's have everyone turned in or beginning their next watch for the (ship's) night in the next couple of days, please.
I've been a "delayer," have been on the road, will be at home and available to post starting tomorrow (Weds Pacific). I am not feeling there were any imprecations here, just disclosing I know I was off my usual routine! :DQuote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
That sounds like awesome romantic picnic fare. I want someone to take me on a picnic
Is Rangin trying to trigger a PTSD episode in Kylah?
Careful anyrose, your meta knowledge is showing.Quote:
Originally posted by anyrose
Damn, Kylah makes friends wherever she goes! :DQuote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
Well, this is Graham we're talking about, so three out of four is not bad. :DQuote:
Originally posted by SidonianGal
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Originally posted by CatInASuitWell, this is Graham we're talking about, so three out of four is not bad. :DQuote:
Originally posted by SidonianGal
We can only hope he will Persevere in using his Strength against Rangin
:fist: :D
I thought Vulcans were Vegetarians
In general yes, most Vulcan's are vegetarian, however T'Var has been known to eat meat from time to time. Probably picked it up from her time in the V'Shar.Quote:
Originally posted by anyrose
That's also my understanding. She is quite a bit more adventurous in her cuisine than other Vulcans we've seen.
Heh, Rangin in charge - wonder what orders I should give?
Hm, the windows are dirty - someone detail Mr Graham to go and clean them from the outside :D
You forgot to add, "without a spacesuit."Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuit
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Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
Grabby, much?Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuit
Gee, I don't know if Collins would have, but if I were in the big chair, instead of taking notes, I'd have said "Computer - begin recording all bridge activity and sensor logs" :devil: :dance:
and everyone would look at her bemusedly and say but they are doing that already :fishbeat:Quote:
Originally posted by anyrose
So, just how much trouble can I get the Yorktown into :angel:
Collins wakes up suddenly. She blurts out "I'm missing something exciting. There's activity of some kind on the bridge. Why was I not included?" She then flops back down and falls back asleep.
To keep breathing as a Starfleet redshirt, situational awareness is key.
Graham wakes up from a terrible nightmare. Nothing could be worse than losing Jane. Except....Rangin being in charge of the ship. Fortunately that will never happen, he reassures himself before going back to sleep.
To all those asleep, don't worry, you'll soon be included. :o
Wonder what's going to happen next :psychic:
Heck I just want Graham to be able to chastise Rangin for charging recklessly int a fight :DQuote:
Originally posted by CatInASuit
"The Kogyashi Maru was someome else's problem" was nice line btw
"Beam Ens. Graham into space," Rangin answers. "Oh, sorry--did you mean about the distress signal?"Quote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
You can see the little hearts popping out of Kylah's head when she looks at Rangin
Heh. It's more like the look Ilsa gives Victor at about 1:25-1:29 (the video's cued up to just before that moment) in the best scene in one of the best films ever. <3
A great scene from a great movie - my all-time favorite film, as a matter of fact.
It's in my top ten, for sure.
Absolutely. As an avowed anglophile I've been taught to be a francophobe, but that scene has made me fall in love with their (admittedly rather bloodthirsty) anthem. Also I love Victor Laszlo and that's where we really see his bravest moment, where he's not just some old wimp who gets in the way of Rick/Ilsa--he's genuinely a threat to the Nazis, and someone Ilsa genuinely loves (albeit not the same way she loves Rick).
Les Marseillaise also holds a fond place in my heart because it makes me think of my mom's bravest moment. She had brain cancer and was going to have surgery to remove the tumor. The morning of the surgery, my family (my sisters and I, plus my father) went in to see her before she went under. Her head was shaved and she looked utterly unlike my mom, but she held our hands and started to sing Les Marseillaise with the same defiance as Yvonne (Madeleine Lebeau) in the movie. Her eyes as she sang Marchons! Marchons! were so big, brown and beautifully courageous that I could almost forget the shaved head and her skinny frame, as well as the risky surgery she was about to undergo.
Anyway. Over the last 30 years I've usually focused only on the fact that my mom ultimately lost that fight. But whenever I hear Les Marseillaise, I remember that she went into the battle with valor.
So, yeah. I love that Casablanca scene and maybe that's why I've always loved Victor Laszlo more than Rick. :)
Good story - thanks. And I had no idea the lyrics were that bloodthirsty: http://www.marseillaise.org/english/english.html
My Dad was in France during WWII. He learned La Marseillaise and sang it loudly along with the French troops. When I took French in junior high, he taught it to me. He told me what the lyrics meant, and that's when I decided to appreciate the song for its musicality alone.
You may remember the Beatles used it as the opening to "All You Need Is Love": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKiqthx0GKw
Damn, Rangin has a lot to live up to now.
Also, when I mentioned the Kobiyashi Maru, I wasn't expecting to actually head into a similar scenario. At least I have the knowledge, that no matter how much Rangin screws up, at least in the future there will be Ens. Harry Kim.
Geeze, who the hell is lieutenant-for-less-than-a-month Bennett to give an officer with way more experience an "encouraging" smile? Condescending Sloane Ranger limey.Quote:
Bennett gives her a quick, encouraging smile
She's not a Sloane Ranger. If she was Daddy would have paid for her to be in PR working for some glossy magazine on a pleasure planet telling us, the plebs, how much better her life is.Quote:
Originally posted by choie
Nah, I bet she's trying to hide two pairs of white stilletos under her bunk instead. d&r
So, the Captain orders weapons off line, then two seconds later, threatens to fire on the Klingon ship. WTH?
She ordered photon torpedoes to be ready, not phasers. They are different weapons.Quote:
Originally posted by anyrose
Oh my, the definition must have drifted over the years. Back in the '80s, I remember the term was particularly popular in articles about Diana, and a decade later Camilla Parker-Bowles, and usually referred to the preppy, horsey, public-school-attending, huntin' and sportin' set; well-educated, well-bred but rather out of touch with everyday life thanks to their advantages.Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuit
Now from your description, it sounds like they've morphed into marginally less trashy Paris Hiltons or... oh, what's the name of that celebrity who's been on every panel show... Tara Palmer-Tomkinson.
St. Croix had already armed the torpedoes, too. But aren't torpedoes way more destructive than phasers? So it's not as if Collins was escalating the situation. In fact it's kinda surprising that Singh is going for the big guns (literally) rather than phasers, which seem to be used more for bringing down shields and are more of a first-line offense.Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuitShe ordered photon torpedoes to be ready, not phasers. They are different weapons.Quote:
Originally posted by anyrose
Feels like Singh was just letting loose some tension there and Collins got in her own line of fire. Hey, you can only be teacher's pet for so long. :devil:
The Yorktown is at warp. Phasers can't be used at warp; torpedoes can. A captain will not necessarily have both weapons systems readied simultaneously, and in any event, it shouldn't be done without orders.
Only two?Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuit
FWIW, a reminder of what Bennett told Graham of her background:
...She was born and raised in a large family on a farm in rural Hertfordshire. She hiked with a childhood friend across quite a bit of Mars before attending Eton and then Starfleet Academy ("My dad, who's a mad stellar cartographer, was always taking me out at night to look up at the stars, so I was very keen on astronomy even when I was a little girl. But I wanted to go to the stars, not just study them, and my Fleet aptitude tests for navigation were pretty good," she says with characteristic British understatement, "so that's how I ended up here"). After graduating from the Academy near the top of her class, she served aboard the Mandela and the Kyoto ("Both good ships, but nothing like this") before being assigned to the Yorktown almost two years ago. She enjoys her work and would like to command her own ship ("A small one, maybe a scoutship - fewer headaches, more flexibility, don't you think?") someday.
You left out that her middle names are taken from her aunts Mary and Susanne (Sue for short). :D
...And yet we know next to nothing about Cooper, who's actually been in a relationship with a PC for most of the game!
Well, we do know he used to be involved with Nia.
Yeah, as it turns out that plot point didn't go anywhere. I thought it'd add some interesting tension to the mix, but not so much and it was over in three posts ("You dated her?" "Yes, don't wanna talk about it" "Hey no biggie, let's make out"). So it's now just a blip on the radar, one of the many people Nia's boinked.
Until Booker & Nia double date with Jeremi and Ben
Well Diana was an original Sloane Ranger, and TPT is a obvious example, but Camilla was one of the Home Counties Horsey set instead which would be closer for Bennett.
As for white stillettos...
Boss, choie's talking to herself again :devil: :dance:
Oh dear. Usually only my cats are aware of my penchant for self-discourse!
Hmm, wonder if this is related to these Klingons
Collins - you're up.
Good eye as always, but doesn't that quote say it was a Klingon battlecruiser, not a scout ship? I see the guy made threats so this could just be a spinoff from that battle. But it seems as if we knew about this Haran V place, whereas right now we're in uncharted territory.Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuit
Yes, a battlecruiser is much bigger and more powerful than a scoutship. Haran V, a relatively well-known Federation colony, is quite a ways away from the Yorktown's current position. You may inquire about this further in the game thread.`
And. here. we. go!
Personally I'm waiting for Graham to get a chance to say something before assuming we can get to the Transporter Room. general_urko hasn't been around in the past couple of days so hopefully we'll hear from him soon. :)
Sheesh was it a couple days? Sorry about that. What a crappy weekend. Back on the job as it were.Quote:
Originally posted by choie
I can't believe Miss Lizard is telling Rangin that he's supposed to be the alien of the group. Sheesh. :dubious:Quote:
Originally posted by SidonianGal
Aw, you know very well what she meant! She's referring to his being an out-of-the-box thinker and a xenobiologist. Obviously as a non-human and the only one of her kind in the entire Federation, she's not going to describe a boring ol' Coridanite as an alien. :fishbeat:
We're all aliens and strangers to somebody.
Wow, I'm beginning to see why Graham finds Rangin a whiner. :devil: He really does assume the worst, even though as I said, Nia literally explains in her first two lines to him why she knows he can see things from an untraditional POV.Quote:
Rangin isn't sure whether its praise or an insult. Think in an alien way... This from someone with scales, a Sidonian, and yes he knew the details of that species and who now seems to be someone on familiar terms with Ens. Graham. Yeah, this was going to be a great boarding mission.
Finally, to coin a phrase, your meta is showing. ;) Nia hasn't treated Graham with any sense of familiarity--to the contrary, if Rangin thinks she's "on familiar terms" with anyone thus far, it should be Rawlings.
(Not many other people can say they've been intimate with 1/3 of their team.)
No, but the reverse is true. Graham has stopped himself calling her Nia instead of Lt Onn. I think its the second time as well.Quote:
Originally posted by choie
Let's look at our intrepid team shall we.
1. The guy who let Palver get away
2. A guy who has hunted down people and killed them and hates Rangin
3. Someone who had a major medical emergency only a few days ago
4. The leader who Graham seems to be on slightly more than familiar terms with.
5. The smallest person in Science aka Rangin
6. At least T'Var is available...praise be.
And you wonder why Rangin is a tad on the nervous side. ;)
He's probably overestimating the skillset needed for this mission, at least what we know of it thus far. If nothing else, whatever their disparate mental/intellectual/emotional issues are, Rawlings, Graham, and Collins are all perfectly capable of shooting Klingons! :D
Damned straight!Quote:
Originally posted by choie
(and Collins' 'medical emergency' was well over a week ago already)
Alternately, Captain Singh could send a whole bunch of better qualified NPCs, but what fun would that be for us? :dance:
Yeah, Nia could've assembled a good team of Rawlings (sure he screwed up w/Palver, but his role's purely muscle here), Lt. JG Jones, St. Croix, Hayes, and Villa. But somehow I think y'all would've taken some umbrage at that. :devil:
And I agree w/your timing estimation, anyrose. Has to be at least 8 days, maybe more. The miscarriage happened at the very start of Day #2 of the last mission. We caught Palver at the end of Day #3, IIRC. Stayed in orbit for at least one more day (there was that issue w/the news reporters and so on). We had a couple of days and a time blip before we got to Anubis. Stayed there at least two days due to the Kylah Incident, maybe three. Then another time jump of two days before we heard the transmission yesterday.
Soooo basically this means that Graham's been on the Yorktown for only 10 - 12 days or so, and Kylah maybe three weeks. We've crammed in a lot of adventures and traumas into that brief period!
And miss a chance to snark from the sidelines :popcorn: - oh wait wrong characterQuote:
Originally posted by choie
Hey a chance to cheer on the group from the sidelines :popcorn: - Go team Yorktown
Always nice to have some encouragement from the cheap seats!
Remember that "away team" is a TNG term; in TOS this is a "boarding party" (or "landing party" if going dirtside).
Actually, this brings up an amusing thought on meta knowledge. Having seen several Star Trek series and films, I can probably think of multiple ways to detect if a cloaked ship is in the vicinity, but that kind of thought isn't really allowed until much later in the canon films, so its fun to try and come up with alternate ways that would work once in this situation but still keeping continuity.Quote:
Originally posted by choie
LOL, good point. We're stuck in this odd place where we know of several ways to work around TOS-era problems, having had the benefit of the movies, TNG, DS9 and to a much lesser extent VOY using these solutions. But our characters don't have that luxury. And worse, we can't just have a brilliant lightbulb moment where we come up with the stuff that was used later, because--in order to stay true to canon--we know those methods were invented by the various future crews at the time. So, like, Rangin can't just suddenly say "hey why don't we use a positronic sweep [from VOY] or a photon torpedo [from ST:III]" and sound like a genius.Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuit
Anyway, so I guess if we do come up with a workaround or some other awesome tech explanation, it has to be something that's so specific to our situation that it couldn't ever be replicated. Otherwise, why wouldn't it have been known by the canon Trek folks?
(Of course apparently the more recent Trek writers didn't think of that when it came to ENT. Apparently some 31st century time traveler gave them the early Enterprise crew the secret to penetrating cloaked ships. So technically, that renders all of TOS+ canon invalid, since obviously by the time we got to Kirk, Picard et al., they should've remembered "ooh yeah, that first Enterprise, remember when they had that time travel dude show up? Why not use that technology?" Ugh, time travel is the worst.)
One of the oddities of playing a game set in the "past" of everything but TOS.
Edited to add: And speaking of technology, looks like Nia just figured out a possible solution that none of us had thought of before beaming our crew into a hostile environment. I'll be interested to see what weird technobabble makes this impossible. I mean, we were able to beam through to the Naradraen without a problem, so it's not like their shields are impenetrable. And we know Roble and Rangin have been able to count precisely the number of Klingons on board vs. the aliens. So beaming them onto the Yorktown should be possible, right?
Do shields really have to be dropped for a tractor beam to work? And was "throwing the shields around that ship" not a thing until TNG? or had they tried it in TOS?
Damn I know I read that somewhere when researching the idea--now I can't find it. AH! Got it, when researching the shields question. From Memory Alpha:Quote:
Originally posted by anyrose
Which makes sense, if you think about it. How can the ship pull anything in past a shield?Quote:
It took time to activate a deflector shield. A refit Constitution-class starship needed exactly 13.5 seconds to lower and raise its shields when taking a shuttlecraft on board via its tractor beam, though that included the time required to tractor in the shuttle during an automated docking procedure; flying the shuttle in manually reduced this time significantly. (Star Trek V: The Final Frontier)
Extending the shields was done in Mudd's Women during TOS, but apparently it made both ships weaker as a result. From the same article:Quote:
And was "throwing the shields around that ship" not a thing until TNG? or had they tried it in TOS?
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Shields could be "extended" to encompass another vessel which couldn't use its own shields. (TNG: "The Next Phase") This could also be used on ships with weaker shields, by matching the ships' shield emitter frequencies. (TOS: "Mudd's Women"; TNG: "The Defector", "Deja Q"; VOY: "Equinox") While the extended shielding could provide some protection in the event of a shield failure on one ship, this technique put a strain on that ship's systems, and the overall strength of the extended shields was generally not as strong as two independent shield systems.
But the Yorktwon isn't trying to pull the Naradraen (Jeez, EH, couldn't you invent alien names we could remember without having to look up the spelling all the time? ;) ) into its bay - it's just trying to stop the Klingons from doing so.Quote:
Originally posted by choieDamn I know I read that somewhere when researching the idea--now I can't find it. AH! Got it, when researching the shields question. From Memory Alpha:Quote:
Originally posted by anyrose
Which makes sense, if you think about it. How can the ship pull anything in past a shield?Quote:
It took time to activate a deflector shield. A refit Constitution-class starship needed exactly 13.5 seconds to lower and raise its shields when taking a shuttlecraft on board via its tractor beam, though that included the time required to tractor in the shuttle during an automated docking procedure; flying the shuttle in manually reduced this time significantly. (Star Trek V: The Final Frontier)
And, if that is what the Klingons are doing, what can't we disable their ship since their shields have to be down for them to tractor the Naradraen?
Oh! Duh, you may be right, at least I'm not seeing anything that argues against it. (I've been typing Naradraen so often due to Kylah's research, it's second-nature to me now. :) )Quote:
Originally posted by anyrose
Because they keep pulling awesome piloting moves and keeping the Naradraen between them and us. We haven't got a clear shot at them. That's why Nia is hoping she might get into the pilot's seat of the Naradraen and move it out of the way.Quote:
And, if that is what the Klingons are doing, what can't we disable their ship since their shields have to be down for them to tractor the Naradraen?
The Naradraen shields are currently down, so transportation to the ship is possible. As for why not being able to beam the Klingons back, I'll leave that to EH.Quote:
Originally posted by choie
IIRC and I'm sure EH will correct me if wrong, but no, shields don't have to be down for the towing ship. Throwing shields around other ships, I think is TNG or possibly the movies, but not TOS at least not for alien ships we have never encountered before.Quote:
Originally posted by anyrose
Interesting discussion - some excellent points made!
I'm not aware of any ST canon about towing another ship with a tractor beam while it has its shields up. I suppose it depends on the shields, but my inclination would be that the towed ship would have to have its shields down, since the tractor beam might otherwise not get a "firm grip."
"My advice in making sense of temporal paradoxes is simple: Don't even try...." - Capt. Janeway, VGR "Timeless"Quote:
Originally posted by choie
Remember that ENT is not canon for this game. Rule 5.
In any event the Naradraen must have its shields down or none of us, either Klingons or Yorktownites, would've been able to transport through.Quote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
LOL, so they actually wrote in a cop-out to their script! How convenient (and not surprising) for the Voyager writers.Quote:
"My advice in making sense of temporal paradoxes is simple: Don't even try...." - Capt. Janeway, VGR "Timeless"
Sure, thank goodness. I was talking about the TV shows. They violated their own canon by giving the faux-Enterprise the solution to penetrating cloaks. For that matter, when the real Enterprise first encountered Romulan cloaks, they'd apparently never heard of them before.Quote:
Remember that ENT is not canon for this game. Rule 5.
Looks like ENT had the same problem we do--how to keep canon in mind when you're writing something about the past.
Yes. See game thread post 1725.Quote:
Originally posted by choie
Hey, the disruptor's only six feet away. For the Klingon, that's his body length and less, considering his arm reach. All he has to do is fall forward with the ProtoCaitian to keep covered, and he might be able to get his hands on the weapon. Can't hurt to get that thing out of the picture.Quote:
Graham would have preferred Nia hang back since the likelihood of either the Klingon or the alien reaching the weapon without being stunned is approximately zero, but the only course of action is to adapt to what she's already set in motion.
But now Nia's going to be only six feet away, potentially within his arm's reach! :fist:Quote:
Originally posted by SidonianGal
But seriously Graham didn't think what she did was "stupid," rather it's just completely consistent with his general point of view that he's biased toward the idea of a couple Security folks with clear field of fire get control of the situation first and then go from there. :D
Okay my internet is out and i am stuck typing on this crappy phone. Sorry i posted under this account instead of the sidonian gal one and it's all screwed up with code. This probably. Won't be fixed until Tuesday acc to Verizon and i suck at typing on phones as you can tell. Very irked right now
Ok I figured out how to login as Nia. But i won't be switching accounts again so if you need to pm me please use this acc. Also I'm not going to be able to post very often so could you all pleeeeeeeease slow things down until i have regular web access again because each of these posts takes me twenty frickin minutes to tap out. I am old and hate typing on phones. I never ask to slow down and im sorry to do so when we're FINALLY involved in the action, but i beg your indulgence since Nia is important and i don't want to miss anything. Sorry again.
Or the CatMan could knock Nia out by hitting her on the head with the butt on the weapon, and Graham could step up as team leader. (Rangin would love that). :devil: :dance: :popcorn:
Then we'd probably be at war in ten minutes, as evinced by fellow security officer Collins holding her weapon on the alien. Nia's gonna have a talk with her about that! Security needs to stick to shooty shooty bang bang and let the rational heads do the leading! :D
Temporarily found a new internet access point via my wonderful sister and a hotspot. So hopefully this will continue and I'll be just as omnipresent as ever, which I'm sure will thrill many of you.
Welcome back! And on we go....
I don't understand. Are there three doors -- one ahead and two on either side? Or did we go through that other door, and now there are two doors to the left/right? Or is there just a single door ahead of us and one behind?Quote:
The Yorktown boarding party moves forward. The corridor makes a 90-degree turn to starboard. It then goes another 20 meters and ends in another door. There are two doors on each side of the corridor here. You hear a Klingon disruptor blast somewhere ahead of you, then another
One door directly ahead of you and two on each side, for a total of five within your line of sight.
Holy cow, I didn't even realize there were five. I feel like we're about to enter a Warner Brothers cartoon, where everyone's running in and out of different doors chasing one another!
Oooh! Fun!
Must ask for patience again... My sister needed her hotspot back so am dealing with craptastic phone keypad while waiting for Verison guy to fix my internet problem today. Please bear with my typos and slow posting! :(
Hope it works out for you.
Just got this very cool miniature ST:TOS USS Enterprise. Diecast metal, well-detailed and painted, and fits in the palm of your hand. Squint a little, and it looks just like the Yorktown!: http://www.historicaviation.com/USS-...tinfo/0097657/
A good holiday gift for any Trekker.
This accessway...it totally looks like this, am I right? :DQuote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
"It makes no logical sense! I mean why is it here?!!!"
Now I want Nia to just stare into it and yellSpoiler (mouseover to read):
FUCK THAT!
The chompers are a few decks down on an Aelyrr ship. You probably won't have to go through them.
Probably....
That episode was badly written!
Can you construct some kind of rudimentary lathe?
I see you've managed to get your shirt off again
Am I the only thinking that a Galaxy Quest RPG would be awesome? All the PCs would be actors playing their favorite (or least favorite) characters and are full of meta knowledge
Yeah, that would be fun. Dibs on Guy Fleegman!
Sometimes I think that Galaxy Quest is the best ST movie evah....
It's a terrific film with some wonderful performances from the entire cast. I think it's the only thing other than Toy Story in which I can tolerate Tim Allen.
May I make a teensy request? I can hardly believe I'm saying things are moving too fast after all this time, but it's been noticeable over the last few days that the exposition/narrative has increasingly shown the actions of our characters rather than the results of our own actions. (E.g. the exposition has just told us that Graham has moved into the room, presumably Collins followed, and I guess Rawlings agreed and is behind them, while Nia's... somewhere.) Of course it's for expediency's sake, and it's nothing even close to egregiously out of character, but it's still a bit... rush-rush.
Meanwhile, having not heard from CIAS yet, who knows whether Rangin even agreed to hold on to Nia's inhaler much less concurs about the plan to get off a few shots and then head to engineering or whatever? I know we don't want a big debate before every move, but since a few of us live in different time zones--and now because most of us are getting ready for holidays, and I'm having my internet problems--maybe the Big Set Pieces can at least get everyone's input to make sure our PCs are doing what we want them to do, rather than having the GM push them into place for us?
I know we're all anxious to push forward but if nothing else, surely things can wait until CIAS can get his posting in, which unless I'm mistaken is usually around 4AM - 8AM ET? Sorry, I don't mean to speak for you, CIAS, and I know you want stuff to move forward as much as everyone else. Probably doesn't matter to anyone else and as usual I'm the complainer, what else is new. But it's not really a complaint, I just don't remember the game exposition moving our characters around so much in the past, and I'm worried not all of us are getting to participate, is all.
Sorry for being a pest, but I figure my reputation can't get any worse, so what the heck.
Thanks choie. Hope you managed to sort out your internet issues.
All right, I'm up to date again, feel free to have me blat anything that gets past the 4 main bruisers in the party.
Honestly, I can't believe Nia is littering. Tsk, tsk.
Each time I have moved the party forward since boarding the alien ship it's been because Onn had given orders as to what was to happen next (as is her prerogative), and/or it appeared that the party was ready. If there is a consensus, though, I'll wait until everyone has posted before I write the next action phase.
Happy Thanksgiving to my fellow American Mellofolk!
Ooh thanks, I think that'd be great, especially because Nia's usually asked her people to confirm/argue with her decisions. She's not an expert in security or warfare, although she's obviously got experience and knows enough to lead. But a good officer knows her limits, so she wants to get input from the team as to whether her decision has problems she hasn't foreseen. She learned from her scientist parents to come up with a theory (or strategy) and ask others/figure out herself why that theory/strategy is false or suboptimal.Quote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
To go back to one of my favorite films, Contact, I think of Elly Arroway's line to her SETI colleagues when she first hears The Signal and thinks it's an intelligent message: "Make me a liar!" Before leaping ahead and assuming she's right, Elly wants to hear possible objections to her instincts.
So generally Nia will order and wait for confirmation--"if you have no objections, get going." I definitely want to hear Graham, Collins and Rangin (and possibly T'Var/Rawlings) responding to either affirm or object the orders. Otherwise I don't think it'd be much fun for GU, anyrose or CIAS to just follow my lead if they have other ideas.
But it is nice to know Nia has the power to make everyone act as a team! Who'd've thunk that would ever happen with this crew? :devil:
Back at you. I know I'm very thankful for this game and all the hard work that goes into it. Hope everyone--yes, even that tea-drinking chap across the pond--has a wonderful day and weekend.Quote:
Happy Thanksgiving to my fellow American Mellofolk!
(My internet woes are, crossing fingers, about to be over. I currently have Verizon DSL service, and they said on Tuesday that my whole network section around my block is out, and would probably stay that way until December 5th.
Can you imagine?!! I work from home, I can't be without internet service for eleven days (as it was then). I'm using my sister's work hotspot for now, but she obviously needs it during the week. So I was like, to heck with that, and signed up for cable service, which will be installed tomorrow. Another benefit is going from 3mbps/1mbps to 100mbps/10mbps. I'm really leaping into the 21st century! Thus I guess I should also give thanks to Time Warner Cable.)
Anyway. Happy thanksgiving to all.
Likewise Happy TG (except of course to the godless Rangin er CIAS located in Un-America...:D )
Apologies for delays in posting was a busier than usual week!
I thought today was your day of giving thanks...to all the retailers with all the low prices. :D
Happy TG all
Today is the day of flaring tempers and stampeding shoppers. Since y'all don't have Thanksgiving in the U.K., how do you know when to start getting crazy?
When it's FA Cup or World Cup time. :DQuote:
Originally posted by anyrose
Black Friday has been imported over here. Last year, it was ridiculous and it was horrible to be even near a shopping centre on Black Friday.
Apparently, unlike the US, civility has broke out this year.
Do you all have a extra dollar or two you could spare for a worthy cause? Thank you in advance.
Possibly daft question - but what are T'Var, Rawlings and Rangin doing? :popcorn:
No, no, no. Roll that again. I'm sure you'll get a higher score. Collins has a 12 dexterity!Quote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
Cry me a river! At least Collins hits every shot she makes. Some of us can't hit the side of a barn, and are rather bizarrely apparently the only ones affected by the ship suddenly lurching. I guess that's the fault of Nia's crappy 9 dexterity and even crappier 7 luck.
:D Picky, picky. Who said she typed it in? Surely one is able to dictate a text message into the communicator, just as people do now, several centuries earlier, on our rudimentary communication devices on Earth? Or was "speech to text recognition" a technology lost to the ages post-WWIII? :D Hey, I even used quotation marks, indicating speech. Also, her brandishing the phaser is referred to only after her sending the message is done.Quote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
(Although since people usually hold phasers with one hand, even if she had typed the text with her thumb--something any teen can do these days--she could still hang onto the phaser simultaneously. Then again, given her bad DEX level, maybe not!)
And yeah seriously, like CIAS said: what are T'Var and Rawlings doing? It would've been kinda nice to have a big-ass security dude to grab hold of K1, and T'Var could have been shooting at K2 or K3. Damn, it's like our NPCs are the opposite of the Weeping Angels from Doctor Who--they only exist when we actively look at them! :devil:
Collins hitting both K1 and Eris has nothing to do with her dexterity. They were very close and were both caught in the same phaser-stun effect.
The latest lurch of the ship was felt by everyone, but Onn was the only one firing at that moment. She is not a Security officer, but FWIW Collins and Graham have missed shots, too.
Ferguson did not respond to Onn because he did not get a message from her. We have not established that Starfleet communicators (which in TOS only have an audio function) have a speech-to-text function; even the texting function is an innovation for this game. As for "brandishing the phaser... only after her sending the message is done," since she's nude, what was she doing with the weapon as she ran after K4?
Hmm, well, gosh, I would've thought it only stands to reason! It's bad enough they still schlep around handheld communicators for centuries when tiny earpieces or even the later TNG-era pins would be so much more efficient. I promise you this, when she returns from the mission, Nia will definitely start an initiative to develop both text-to-speech recognition and a non-handheld communication device! (I know either Kylah or Nia herself complained at least once about the discomfort in not having a more functional communicator--maybe the two can commiserate.) If there's no official canon background as to how those pins were invented, I assume the game is free to toss in some speculation as to how that logo-pin-as-communicator was devised.Quote:
Originally posted by Elendil's Heir
Tsk tsk. A gentleman shouldn't ask such a question. :devil:Quote:
As for "brandishing the phaser... only after her sending the message is done," since she's nude, what was she doing with the weapon as she ran after K4?
No, seriously, I thought the word "brandishing" referred specifically to "holding the weapon in readiness to fire," i.e. with the weapon up and/or aimed, not just clutched in one hand while running. 'Cause I think the latter is possible to do while running and talking, or even texting with a thumb if you're good at it. The former (aiming) would be very unwieldy since it would mean you can't move that arm while running, which is awkward.
I guess we'll never know what the heck T'Var and Rawlings have been doing all this time, although it's good to see them saunter into the room at last! NPCs are the Schroedinger's cat of the game: Both there and not there.
The disconnect between TOS and speech technology is one of the most interesting things to me as a technologist - and it is not unreasonable. Within the last 12 months of so Siri, Cortana, and Alexa (voice interfaces from Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon, respectively) have become "awesome" rather than "crappy." As recently as 2 years ago I had...discussions...with corporate decision makers who poo-poo'd voice as a primary interface.
You're completely right, of course. I'm completely wrong. I'm sorry for harming the game with my snarky, terrible complaining about unimportant issues, and generally making the game less enjoyable for everyone.
I apologize mostly to Elendil's Heir and appreciate his tolerating my disruptions for as long as he has, when he's just creating a fun, interesting adventure that's true to ST canon. I promise I won't bother anyone again with anything that isn't a simple question asking for clarification of a game point, or telling you if I can't post for whatever reason.
Thanks.
As you may have figured out, SidonianGal/choie and I have recently had an exchange of PMs which has displeased her. I apologize that it has spilled over here. I hope it will not happen again.
I can't even apologize right. I guess I'm sorry for saying I'm sorry. I don't want to make this stressful for anyone.
The only thing TOS communicators show is that Clamshell is not dead. What's really amazing is the impact that the design has had on mobile devices over the last few decades. At some point, we may even catch up with TNG and have combadges instead, although bluetooth headsets are getting incredibly close.
It all takes time and a few breakthroughs here and there. I'll agree that having something react to you through voice alone is quite cool, it's still a fair way from being the full experience. I'd give it another 5-10 years at least before they full solve all the problems with dialect and language to take it beyond the basic versions as well as it make it more commercially viable for all and sundry. Closest other product I can think of is the Kinect, but that hasn't worked out as well as Microsoft wanted, but it's ideal for phones and that's likely to be the way forward.Quote:
Originally posted by general_urko
Also, currently not stressed - just hoping the pair of you can to some agreement over your differences, apologise to each other and move on.
Then again considering what I have seen rush-hour commuters do: texting with one hand while talking on a phone balanced on a shoulder and running with a bag to catch a train, I'm inclined to think people are capable of almost anything.
Also, I want it on record that K4 is a coward who ran from a naked female. Admittedly, she has a phaser-II and is near invisible, but no warrior should shirk from such a challenge. :hist:
Also not stressed.
I guess he didn't have his prune juice this morning.Quote:
Originally posted by CatInASuit
Thanks, everyone.
Given Worf's reaction to prune juice on ST:TNG (despite having been raised by Humans), I suspect it's an unknown beverage to Klingons generally in the TOS era.
That's because they hadn't grown their bumps yet
We do not discuss it with outsiders.Quote:
Originally posted by anyrose
Ok, so how did Cheverez and Eris get down to Engineering before Rangin and Pojel?
I thought I had at least a minute's head start seeing as he wasn't even on board. :confused:
They took different routes through the ship. Rangin also stopped to talk (your post 1864).
I've dropped a PM as to why not - we can sort it out there - though it looks like its gone to far to change it.
No worries. Won't make any difference in the long run. Thanks, CIAS.
The rap musical Hamilton is a huge hit on Broadway right now. And you'll never guess what it has a song about:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVmBYIbklmc
http://genius.com/Lin-manuel-miranda...de-down-lyrics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamilton_(musical)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wo...ed_Upside_Down
Huh, well I never - a Yorktown reference :)
I know, right?!?
Collins thinks a moment and says "First contact, in my experience, has been the ship's captain seducing the prettiest female; so no, this was not ideal."