Wut'd I miss? Damn come late to da party and I missed the fight, the joke and people all leaving in a huff. Dare betta be sum damn beer left!
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Wut'd I miss? Damn come late to da party and I missed the fight, the joke and people all leaving in a huff. Dare betta be sum damn beer left!
Did you report the posts? I haven't had much opportunity to report much, so I'm a little disappointed if you're reporting things and not hearing something.Quote:
Originally posted by Chimera
I hope all the people who threatening to leave because of a prank lasting like two hours, do. I have gotten involved in various drama here and at the other place, but I don't think I've ever taken it seriously enough to stomp off in a huff over something dumb like this. Good riddance to people who take it so seriously that they freak out over a good-natured joke. All the people who think messageboards are SERIOUS BUSINESS should go away. It's not incumbent upon everyone else to constantly tiptoe around delicate sensibilities because a tiny number of people are going to throw a fit over any random thing they can find to get pissed about. No point in turning the whole board to shit for the sake of accommodating people like that.
What the fuck happened? When I joined the SDMB, it sure didn't cater to ninnies in this oppressive way. We have a new board, we can go back to what things were like back when a lot of us joined the SDMB, rather than emulating the dysfunctional, un-fun later years.
I'm angry because this stupid joke drove off a person whom I'd rather have around. Selfish, I know.Quote:
Originally posted by Myrnalene
Some folks don't like to be jerked around like that.Quote:
Can someone explain to me what the outrage is?
It's like this kind of joke: A person is a new employee, and at lunch time someone offers them a sandwich or something which is spiked with hot peppers or something. The person has a reaction to the hot peppers, and the other employees laugh, and the person is supposed to laugh too. Some people get upset when you play jokes like that on them.
ETA: Exy, I don't think it's so much about the Serious Bidness as it is that some ppl don't like to be played for a fool. Yanno?
Wow! Just read the thread. That's some funny shit. O'course I went into it knowing it was a joke. If anyone should be mad it's Garygnu. I for one am glad to see that Lib can poke fun a himself. And the Lib baters (Leander) all showed true to form.
It did not drive him off. He is (maybe) choosing to leave. He might have reasons that make sense to him, I don't know. But no one has exiled him. It's his choice.Quote:
Originally posted by NinetyWt
I'm sorry, NinetyWt, but it was nothing like that. No one was physically injured or intimidated. No one was singled out or held up for humiliation. There was no malice intended. It was contained to a few threads over the course of a couple hours. No one's livelihood was at stake.Quote:
Originally posted by NinetyWt
It's just not that deep.
That's the point. It's fun being fucked around with a little. That's part of normal human interaction. It doesn't have to be all INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS, it can just be fun. The SDMB was like that once, I swear. It wasn't just a club of people hanging out on the internet because the real world was too scary. Back in the old days that was only like a third of the population.Quote:
Originally posted by NinetyWt
Seriously, if this place has to spend all its time nurturing the fragility of the most emotionally impaired fraction of the population, it will be lame. And you know what? It's not doing people like Oakminster a favor if we tell them their melodramatic agonies are legitimate in order to mollify them.
Jesus, Liberal of all people was totally cool with it. Now everyone has to accommodate some tiny number of posters who are even more fragile than him? It's not doing those people any favors, either.
When people sit around and reassure each other that every impulse is valid and legitimate, that culminates in furrydom. No one wants that.
Hell, the sandwich thing causes real physical pain. I don't think that's really funny, unless it's someone you REALLY FOR SURE know will be cool with it (and even then it's risky.) This isn't like that at all. The most reaction a person who is emotionally together is gonna feel is some temporary worry. And it's worry about an internet message board which, frankly, shouldn't be that upsetting. Two hours of being worried because your kid is missing is awful. Two hours of being worried because your message board is all crazy is not.
Surely, it was his choice, but his irritation at the joke was the cause, or so he said.Quote:
Originally posted by Myrnalene
You will notice that I didn't leave. ;) It might not seem 'so deep' to Person A, but evidently it is for Person B. I'm just explaining it as I see it - I think it's a trust thing.Quote:
I'm sorry, NinetyWt, but it was nothing like that. No one was physically injured or intimidated. No one was singled out or held up for humiliation. There was no malice intended. It was contained to a few threads over the course of a couple hours. No one's livelihood was at stake.
It's just not that deep.
I hate jokes like the sandwich joke you outline above. I can't eat hot peppers, so it would be upsetting, and I would be the butt of the joke.Quote:
Originally posted by NinetyWt
I don't have any objection to someone not liking the stunt here, but who was the butt of the joke? Do you feel you were?
Like I said, some ppl enjoy that, and some ppl don't. Some people you can take a practical joke really really far with, and some people you better not even think about it.Quote:
Originally posted by Excalibre?
Julie: I think some folks must have felt like they were, hence the pissed-off-ness.
That's just it...it's not like one person was humiliated while a gang of others point and laugh. We all got sucked in (well, apparently except for Exy!). If Lib can take it in stride, I think the rest of us can, for heaven's sake.Quote:
Originally posted by Julie
Maybe people will feel differently about it in the morning, y'all.
Yeah, and he'd probably be more convincing if he wasn't still logged in but invisible. And some might call my remark to him harsh, but I don't believe for a second it's anything more than blatant attention-seeking. You see, he pulled this exact same stunt over at the SDMB for the most ridiculous reason that no one wanted to play along with his childish attempts to start a board meme. Sorry, but it's bullshit.Quote:
Originally posted by Myrnalene
To those who are genuinely upset over this, I am sorry you feel that way, but please try to lighten up a little. I personally didn't think it was all that funny, either, but it's nothing to get one's undies in a bunch over.
I was totally sucked in for a good while, that's what makes it fun. It wasn't until QED put Winston Smith back in room 101 that I was sure. That just didn't make sense.Quote:
Originally posted by Sarahfeena
I just hope Jeff saw my morse code double entendre before the thread got dioleted.
The only difference is that I don't think anyone at all claimed they would miss him last time.Quote:
Originally posted by Q.E.D.
That's right, just go commando then no worries !!!Quote:
Originally posted by Q.E.D.
:P
I don't got a dog in this fight, as I'm reading it after the fact and don't have a strong emotional attachment to what goes on here, but what "upsets" people about jokes like this is, if they're not in on the joke and they say assholish things because those in on the joke are saying assholish things... once the joke is revealed, so is their assholishness.
That wasn't my business. Stop telling me things that aren't my business.Quote:
Originally posted by Q.E.D.
You are quicker than me...I only started suspecting when QED put Winston back in 101. It was when they started disappearing threads that I was pretty sure.Quote:
Originally posted by Excalibre
Not everyone has to enjoy it, but you know what? The rest of us don't all have to pretend that it's legitimate to be all horribly emotionally wounded by this. If that's someone's genuine, real reaction there is something really wrong with them. Encouraging someone to continue that is like finding a delusional schizophrenic and telling them you're a government spy and you're reading their thoughts. If anything, encouraging someone to become even more crazy is actively cruel.Quote:
Originally posted by NinetyWt
And if you're not really and truly emotionally scarred about this, you shouldn't throw a fit to try to get a bunch of people to rush to your side and beg and beg and beg for you to come back. That's also fucked up.
There is no possible reason to indulge Oakminster in this.
I don't care for invisible theater. I dislike being misled like that. Especially so close on the heels of what happened in the mafia thread. I don't know if that was to create more drama or what but that was a big part of why it bothered me. I'm trying to learn a game that is very different from anything else I've played and it's very frustrating to have someone purposefully screwing around like that.
NinetyWt I think Oakminster is whooshing us. He has always seemed to have a thicker skin thin this.
You wouldn't say that if you read the PM he just sent me.Quote:
Originally posted by Glazer
What happened in the Mafia thread and how does it relate?Quote:
Originally posted by Inner Stickler
That's what made me think it might be real.Quote:
Originally posted by Inner Stickler
Ah. I stuck my head in the mafia thread and it seemed like there might be some weird shit going down in there, but since I don't play I just figured it was part of the game.Quote:
Originally posted by Inner Stickler
Q.E.D., keep your private correspondence private, please!
I think it's utterly inappropriate for people to use private correspondence and/or moderator tools in order to reveal private things about posters.
I reckon we will see, bubba.Quote:
Originally posted by Glazer
Exy: I understand what you're saying, but I think that if jokes like this are played, the jokesters shouldn't be surprised if someone gets angry over it. That's all.
This kinda pisses me off. You should not be using information the rest of us have no access to, things he specifically wanted to hide, in an argument. It makes you look like an asshole who's abusing his powers.Quote:
Originally posted by Q.E.D.
Yes, yes, yes it is. Q.E.D., please do not misuse your privileges here.Quote:
Originally posted by Julie
Is there any way that, for those of us who missed it, we can see the hive thread and the poll thread?
They were deleted, and can't be brought back.
I guess he must.Quote:
Originally posted by Julie
I didn't think this was funny while it was going on. I was feeling actual sadness that this shit was happening in this young place that I like so much. Then I saw the "Are the moderators playing us?" thread and it started making sense. Then Winston Smith came clean and it was a relief. I had a little laugh and went on.
But Jesus, people. You don't have to like it. You don't have to laugh. But I'm the guy who's always told to lighten up, and I still don't get what there is to be upset about.
[quote=What Exit?]What happened in the Mafia thread and how does it relate?[/quote:2ural9qk]Quote:
Originally posted by "Inner Stickler":2ural9qk
Winston claimed to be the Seer and caused chaos for a while and then popped back in and said that he was just fooling, that he was just a vanilla townie, and that he had taken a bunch of prescription drugs and was completely loopy. He also made a sock account Lucifer. Then he explodes in a giant temper tantrum a little later on the main board? Was the earlier outburst just a setup to make the prank that much funnier? Be warned, neither yes or no are the correct answers here.
This.Quote:
Originally posted by Harlequin
Me too.Quote:
Originally posted by Julie
I'm not in the right mind space to discuss all of this right now (writing while angry is a great way to just be angry and happen to have a target), but it would be absolutely swell if "Here is information you can't verify" were not used here. I think it's ugly on several levels, none of which we need to add to what's already here.
Let people say what they're going to say publicly. If they feel the need to say things privately, that's the business only of those to whom it is privy. That's why the messages are private, no? Private messages? So other people don't know what I've said to folks privately and I don't know what they've said to other parties privately?
This doesn't seem too tough to understand to me. Keep private stuff private.
Unless you're Janet Jackson.
(ETA: The private message stuff applies to a message in which QED discusses some element of a PM from Oakminster.)
Well it wouldn't be a very good April's Fool on his part if he didn't lead you along for a bit. And if it's not an April Fool well fuck 'em.Quote:
Originally posted by Q.E.D.
FTR, no one has any legitimate right to expect someone they send a PM to to keep it secret. I mean, I assume people will if they're on friendly terms but I'm not about to start sending my credit card numbers to people who hate me.
The "logged in but invisible" kind of rubs me the wrong way a little, but people do way worse stuff than that at plenty of other web communities.
[quote=Inner Stickler][quote="What Exit?":2alonc5g]What happened in the Mafia thread and how does it relate?[/quote:2alonc5g]Quote:
Originally posted by "Inner Stickler":2alonc5g
Winston claimed to be the Seer and caused chaos for a while and then popped back in and said that he was just fooling, that he was just a vanilla townie, and that he had taken a bunch of prescription drugs and was completely loopy. He also made a sock account Lucifer. Then he explodes in a giant temper tantrum a little later on the main board? Was the earlier outburst just a setup to make the prank that much funnier? Be warned, neither yes or no are the correct answers here.[/quote:2alonc5g]
I don't follow any of the Mafia threads. Well, as you can tell, I didn't know about that part. I don't think it was a setup for today as today was not planned until today. I didn't think today would cause much anguish as no one was the butt of the joke but Winston himself and myself and TheFlame to a lesser degree.
Believe it or not, they did. Right after his farewell post.Quote:
Originally posted by Excalibre
To those of you complaining about my disclosure of his online status, perhaps you're right. However, were I in your shoes I'd want to know if some phony was trying to play me for a fool. Diff'rent strokes, I guess. I can't honestly apologize because I believe it was the right thing to do. I do, however, understand your concerns about privacy and I hope I can alleviate them by stating flatly that's about as far as I'd be willing to go with it.
Will you send them to those who like you? :: bats eyelashes ::Quote:
Originally posted by Excalibre
I'll give you the first four, okay? :lol:Quote:
Originally posted by NinetyWt
[modhat:23w91dma]Just a reminder everyone. This is in About Domebo Forums and not the T'dome. Please cut out insults to other posters and dragging in old complaints from other boards. That should apply to all members, mods and techs included.[/modhat:23w91dma]
I was all set to jump on you but it turned out plenty of people had already brought it up. I think it was highly inappropriate.Quote:
Originally posted by Q.E.D.
Irrelevant. I might want to know what's in someone's private email too, but that doesn't mean someone should tell me.Quote:
However, were I in your shoes I'd want to know if some phony was trying to play me for a fool.
Uh, no, that's not doing anything to alleviate concerns. This basically means you'd do the same thing again. If you don't see the inappropriateness here, you have no business having access to private data.Quote:
I do, however, understand your concerns about privacy and I hope I can alleviate them by stating flatly that's about as far as I'd be willing to go with it.
I just got in from work.
:shock:
Unless you're planning on pretending to flounce off in a petty huff, you've got nothing whatsoever to worry about. FFS, you're acting like I posted his home address and Social Security number.Quote:
Originally posted by McNutty
Come on people, the whole stunt was a dumb joke. Why on earth would anyone get in such a huff about it?
Well, what the fuck do we have the "invisible" feature for if we're not going to honor it? If someone trusts that that works as advertised and it doesn't, how can they trust that their "private" messages are even private or that we're not going to reveal some other information just because one mod who doesn't understand privacy thinks "geez, what's the big deal about an IP address?"Quote:
Originally posted by Q.E.D.
Yeah, sure: online/offline status isn't exactly a big deal. But whether it's a big deal or not, the user is still supposed to have control over whether it's private, not you.
It's not like it's that damning that he stuck around and read after his flounce anyway. (I'm sure I would have.) Calling someone's online status "private data" is an overstatement. I don't think there's anything in the signup that says "if you are on invisible status we totally promise to respect that honest injun". And there's essentially zero possibility of it causing any significant harm if it's released.
We want this place to be well-run, unlike the other place. A staff that walks on eggshells over ridiculously petty shit like this is not a necessary component of that. Save the over-the-top outrage for sometime when it at least sort of matters.
Unless Crispy or someone says otherwise, we can all now be aware that we have to log out, and not just go invisible if we want to read truly invisibly. No harm was done.
Because they're nutty and they've gotten used to having their nutty emotional responses indulged?Quote:
Originally posted by leander
I feel the same way. I got home around 9:45 pm (Eastern, in the US), and I'm still trying to sort it all out.Quote:
Originally posted by Caerie
I thought this was Room 101. That's where I linked into this thread at. I didn't know it was moved. So I retract my "So fuck 'em" statement. So sorry, please don't beat me.Quote:
Originally posted by What Exit?