Did you read that last scene between the pair? :dubious:
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:D Yeah, heh, she tried to take control and Velir ran for the hills... or perhaps I should say away from them. In any event I think he showed he was less than impressed by her aggressiveness!
That's not how I read it. I read it as Kylah thinking the only way to hang on to him was to give herself to him, and Rangin was too much of a gentleman to take advantage. Besides, he was still trying to understand why there were two other guys in her room with her dressed like that.
If Kylah weren't so intent on running away, the two of them might have ended up in a hotel after dinner. And then lovely music would play and the camera would pan to the window as a flock of birds fly by, and in the distance, a train goes into a tunnel, and beyond that, a rocket takes off for space.
Of course! Well, mostly. I was joking, obviously--CIAS and I went over and over that scene and I'm hip to Velir's motives. (Most of them.) I'd put more emphasis on Rangin's not wanting to take advantage while simultaneously not trusting her. Something or someone in his past is gnawing at him, it seems, given some of the things he's been second-guessing about Kylah's own reasons for behaving as she does, including both pushing him away despite apparently sleeping w/Jan after knowing him five minutes, and now who's this Johnson guy hanging out near her room, and oh hey now she wants to sleep with him even though she won't answer any of his questions. It's totally fair that he's confused and mistrustful, especially if he has his own issues on his mind, not just hers.
:D Only if for once they'd both tell each other what's on their minds! But that's no fun.Quote:
If Kylah weren't so intent on running away, the two of them might have ended up in a hotel after dinner. And then lovely music would play and the camera would pan to the window as a flock of birds fly by, and in the distance, a train goes into a tunnel, and beyond that, a rocket takes off for space.
Hitchcock once said, "My characters do not call the police because that would be no fun."
Time wise, Collins and Cooper are way ahead of the rest of the crew, unless they ran full speed up the mountain (which isn't very likely). So let me know, please, when 4 hours since beam down has passed. kthxbai.
Go ahead and post as you wish, anyrose. I'll get the timelines in synch when needed.
I must say, Graham is quite the generous suitor! He doesn't chintz out when it comes to courtship.
:bravo:
Heh...the funny thing is, he neither has expensive tastes himself nor feels obligated to get something fancy--this is one of the lines that IMHO best captures his personality:
Still no point in buying Nia a cheap piece of crap....
BTW one of the other top ten is:
"Your style's pretty good after all," she says, watching his powerful arms attack the water as if it's just insulted his mother.
Thanks, anyrose and general_urko! CIAS and I had fun writing the scene, especially since we ended up writing for each other's characters more than usual. Johnson is such fun as a character; totally irreverent. Having someone like Kylah meet up with him right when she starts on the ship helps explain why she's so stiff/defensive by the time she meets Collins. Bravo to CIAS for developing him as such a rogue with a heart of gold. Also thanks to EH for helping us with Bennett and looking through to catch any problems re: Trek and Starfleet terms, as well as noting a few typos too.
Pragmatic and thoughtful -- and it's still pretty generous. Not bad traits to have.
Aw thanks! Barely five minutes after Nia first met him, she's made a good observation about his character. That bodes well, even if she doesn't remind him of his late wife. (Which might actually be a good thing, in the long run!)Quote:
BTW one of the other top ten is:
"Your style's pretty good after all," she says, watching his powerful arms attack the water as if it's just insulted his mother.
Okay, so we've got the soap opera of Kylah and Rangin, the sitcom couple of Collins and Cooper, and the rom-com love triangle of Nia, Bennett, and Graham. Maybe, when T'Var goes into Pon Farr, Johnson will still be single.
Or the All-Vulcan Championship Wrestling Team will need a ride aboard the Yorktown to some remote sector....
http://www.planetary.org/become-a-me...ve/bricks.html
I'm a member of the Planetary Society, and have donated a $100 brick with this inscription:
OFFICERS AND CREW
USS YORKTOWN
NCC-1717
:bravo: :bravo: :bravo: :bravo: :bravo: :bravo: :bravo: :bravo: :bravo:
If the rest of us kick in $20 each, we could get a brick with our characters' names.
That was really cool of you, EH! Thanks very much! :D
Glad to. And by all means, buy your own bricks, if you like. The Planetary Society is a great organization, and worthy of the support of every Trekker.
I really think choie ought to consider this character icon when posting as Kylah
:D Not having seen that show, but reading the synopsis of the character, he seems way too competent and brave for Kylah!
How about this one?
Okay now that's just mean! :D Albeit not entirely untrue.
Apologies for not being around much, we had a sunny Bank Holiday weekend, which is a rarity to be enjoyed.
Thanks to choie for collaborating on the story, it was fun to participate and get to write a bit more about Mr Johnson, other than just being that guy who plays chess against T'Var.
EH - those bricks are a very cool idea.
Federation credits are not "credits" as we think of them. They are the actual currency of the Federation. Once a credit - or a dollar, pound, ruble or shekel - leaves your hands, it's gone. Even if that were not so, the bartender clearly has some connections with the underbelly of Federation society, with the ability to put money out of the reach of whoever gives it to him.
Oooooh! It's ON now! :devil: :popcorn:
Boy howdy and I thought Rangin's tirades about Graham were epic...!
Wow, no kidding! Gripping stuff, choie and CIAS.
Thank you, EH. I don't know whether to :) or :sad: over such a painful scene. CIAS really took Velir's leash off--what a torrent of hurt anger that can spill out of normally calm guy! Clearly that was building up for a while.
I had the easy part--after all, confronted with that, what could Kylah possibly say? Except the wrong thing, which is her specialty, poor hapless idiot that she is.
Yeah, Velir went and nuked the bridge on that one.
We hurt the ones we love the most...
Let me count the ways for Graham to step in it the next time he runs into Rangin...
:popcorn:
Be sure to have him find out that Rangin left a distraught Kylah down on the planet by herself. I'm sure that would please Graham to no end. Especially in a half-hour or so when she doesn't return.
Adam Savage (Mythbusters) and friends make a Kirktastic captain's chair. Go to 32:23 if you just want to see it when it's done: http://www.slashgear.com/adam-savage...hair-18383958/
Wow. Eight pages before the first conflict!
Damn, that Rangin is a clever guy! :bravo: Well done, CiaS
Collins just channelled Lenny Briscoe: "Look, we're Homicide, not Vice. Don't worry."
G_U flex his paws hands, reminding himself the peon staffing the desk in front of him was not personally responsible for the nth consecutive fiasco in the last forty-eight hours. That doesn't fully remove the temptation to smash the desk into ten thousand pieces, given the lack of sleep that resulted from arriving in City A hours late, after 2 in the morning, due to flight delays, nor the fact that upon delayed arrival at City B he is informed he doesn't even has a real hotel room (despite online pre-check-in), rather a fold-out in the carved-off anteroom of a suite, which makes him feel great about the thousands of dollars he's spent on physical therapy in the past few months, but since every freaking hotel in the immediate area is full and he went to bed at 3 AM last night and has to speak in front of 800 people tomorrow morning, maybe he just needs to suck it up for the moment and try to relax. Which would be easier if the hotel bar which ostensibly closes at midnight didn't take last call at 11:30...
More backstory than you need for an apology about dropping off the map at a dramatic moment- posting should return to normal tomorrow evening Eastern time and be cool for rest of week.
Life happens like that from time to time- hope everything works out for you G_U
What a pain in the ass, general - so sorry. Hope your speech is boffo and that you have a smooth, safe trip back home.
More cool stuff from the Planetary Society: http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/20/us/ual...nch/index.html
Thanks for the kind words, mission accomplished and I even have a real bed tonight...Graham is back! :)
Splice the mainbrace! A ration of grog all around, Mr. Bennett.
Mmmm. Grog.
Isn't anyone going to tell the first landing party that a second landing party has been dispatched to a new location? It would help the right hand if it knew what the left hand was doing.
Done and done. Thanks, anyrose.
FYI, I will be traveling out of town this weekend and may have only occasional Internet access until late Sunday.
Safe travels
Have a good trip, EH!
Dang, Kylah is in way worse shape than even I was anticipating. If she's got that bad a head wound, she's probably bleeding like a stuck pig.
Damn, Collins is a brave little soldier. But she can't fool me! I can read between the lines: it's obvious that she's desperately trying to hide her shock and concern over her beloved roommate's being found unconscious! :devil:
She's a professional. She knows other members of her crew are now with Kylah and the situation will be handled. Her meltdown timer isn't scheduled to go off until later in the mission. :woowoo: :woowoo:
Heh, I dunno, I think there's some middle ground between a lack of reaction and a meltdown--something along the lines of a mental "What the hell, I hope she's okay," you know? If only because Collins spent good money on that present. It'd be a shame if Kylah bled to death and wasted Collins's credits. Though I suppose she can always re-gift it to someone else. :P
Don't get me wrong, her reaction is perfectly in character. That's what amuses me about it, it's so very Collins--just like her not thanking the bartender earlier. She is true to herself, and I like that she still isn't deft at the whole compassion/empathy/manners thing. I know several people like her IRL, and she's thoroughly believable.
It's easy to write a Mary Sue who always reacts perfectly composed with nary a misstep. Flawed people are much more interesting, even if they're frustrating at times. That's why I keep making sure Kylah is one screw-up and lie after another, and now Nia's underplayed the danger, believes the rumors about Kylah's flakiness/promiscuity/spoiled nature, and snarks at what I very obviously know is a grave situation.
If a character doesn't make mistakes, there's nowhere for him or her to grow and develop, and who wants that in a long-running RPG?
She was raised properly, but somewhere in her drive to be the best at whatever she does, she's become borderline Asperger's. She'll never be a Sheldon, she doesn't have the ego for it, but she does have her days.
Does she like flags?
No, nor trains. So I guess there's still hope for her.
Yes, I do have an evil streak. Why do you ask? :devil: :dance: :popcorn:
You guys are hilarious. :) Meanwhile I'm stuck with one unconscious character and the other without any info on the Bridge (unless Vargas/Singh have been passing along status reports to everyone during all this). So I'll just watch the fireworks. :popcorn:
Hmm I can't tell, how does Graham really feel about Rangin? And this is before he knows how badly hurt Kylah is, although I guess the trail of blood is a pretty good clue.
Oh now this should be fun. Wonder if Graham is going to remember to apologise for all those nasty thoughts he had about Rangin early on.
Wasn't me Guv! :angel:
The third part of T'Var and Johnson: Tapas for Two is now available.
Cmdr. Will Riker gets the TV he deserves: http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/23/86...ow-he-deserved
I'd love to see Riker and Jack Harkness in a flirt off
Ah, I do love me some Riker. <3
As flattered (well, stunned, really) as Kylah would be to know that the boys are fighting over li'l ol' her (actually they're really just measuring their... phaser lengths), I'm wondering if either of them is going to pick up the fact that they're right at the scene of the crime. Unless these petty criminals are as obsessive geniuses as Palver/Hardin, I highly doubt they cleaned up that well after themselves, including the blood that Kylah must've caused after slashing at least one of 'em.
But go on, you guys continue whipping out your rulers. :devil:
Thanks. I must've missed that.
Graham can't actually hear Rangin, but assumes whatever he's saying to Collins would piss him off, and so becomes even more angry.
FYI I am going to be in Australia for a few days so posting may be at very odd times!
Australia? I'm so jealous! Have a safe trip.
Sigh...one would think jealousy entirely appropriate. Unfortunately, I have to be in Australia Monday- Tuesday and Boston Thursday-Friday so in aggregate I am spending more time on planes than in either spot....
Somehow I will channel the absurdity of it all into anger at Rangin.... :hist: :LOL:
I'd love to go to Australia someday... but not like that, frankly. Hope the trip is better than you expected, g_u! Take along some good books and get plenty of sleep on the way.
I had written awhile back, in response to a PM from a player, that site-to-site transport (for instance, using a ship's transporter to move a person from Point A to Point B on a planet's surface, without the person being brought up to the ship) was not technically possible in the ST:TOS era. I was wrong. I just remembered that it was done in "A Piece of the Action" to gather all the Mob bosses in one place for Kirk to talk to them. There may be other examples, as well.
A HA!!!!
:D :dance:
How goes the flying G_U?
Apologies for removing Rangin out the way of your incoming rage, you'll just have to find some catharsis elsewhere. :D
I'm just keeping Collins in character :devil:
(look, it took a whole mission for her concern for Fujishiro to surface ... she'll get to Kylah eventually)
Admiral, almost definitely.
Erm... post-retirement party?
Gotta love a compassion-impaired character
Hope the rest of your trip goes well, general.
So far so good (although I have been through 3rd world airports that function better than LAX) but I am just very sad that Graham couldn't be in Sickbay to hear first fevered words from Kylah along the lines of "No, please Velir, it hurts" and then we could have some serious Rangin catharsis... at least until or unless Collins stunned Graham or T'Var gave him the Vulcan nerve pinch.... :(
It sounds as if, should something go wrong, it would only affect the way the ship's biosensors read their lifesigns, not that it would affect the inhabitants themselves. Is that right?
I can't imagine we're due for another "dangerous medical experiment endangers people" storyline so quickly. Something else must be up.
KHAAAAAAAAAN!!!!! KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
*takes the fifth*
Going to be traveling again this weekend - not sure how much time or Internet access I'll have.
It's a good thing Graham and Rangin are going to run into each other in Sick Bay. They're probably both going to need doctors once the sparks start flying. Good thing Collins is still there, in the Doctor's office. She'll have a front row seat. :devil: :dance: :popcorn:
Hi everybody. EH suggested I post this, so I will.
The last day or two, I've been experiencing some sort of lag with the game thread. I'll post something, but it won't appear right away. When it does appear, it's much later in the thread. The post is definitely out of place. Also, earlier posts from all of you don't show up on my screen until much later. Any ideas as to what might be causing this? Anyone else having a similar issue?
Thanks!
What browser are you using? It might be out of date and need updating. Short of suggesting hitting refresh a couple of times before you post and after as well, I got nuthin'
As I mentioned to WES, she's the first who's had this problem. Hope it can be resolved.
Hmm, not sure, I'll have a think. Also, please PM me any examples you have and I'll have a look
And there you have someone the size of Sue Storm-Richards facing down someone almost the size of Ben "the Thing" Grimm.
eta - I surprise myself sometimes with my comics knowledge.
That is impressive :D (Sue Storm was pretty badass, IMHO, when they really let her cut loose with her forcefields). But yeah, especially when it's clobberin' time!
Holy crap you guys got in a lot of posting while I was away! Lucky Kylah's out of it so I can explain her lack of reaction to all this.
Poor CIAS. To return and find Velir being manhandled to such a degree!
Hopefully to the right degree he doesn't feel he missed anything - e.g., if I were in CIAS' shoes and Rangin had been manhandled more I could see wanting to have decided how he reacted (...now Graham can only dream he would have fought, justifying further escalating force...). As it is it seems like a good re-entry point.
Of course if I were CIAS I would be sorely disappointed he doesn't return with Rangin standing over Graham's prone body because T'Var Vulcan nerve-pinched him from behind! :D
Well now...that went well :woowoo:
Given their respective sizes and strengths there is pretty much nothing that Rangin could have done against Graham, other than obey what he says.
However, I think I preferred my response to just having Graham unconscious on the floor, not that it wouldn't have been appreciated. ;)
I will say congrats to all around for the great scene though.
Damn. All our PCs in one room, and in prime conflict mode! (Well, except new-PC Nia; I'm not sure how she'll react to all this if she hears about it.) Rangin really ripped poor Kylah's heart out and also winged Collins and (naturally) Graham too. The scrappy Coridanite has plenty of bite in him.
Hee! Either Collins has developed the same amazing psi skills that Rangin has, or she's developed Character Knowing As Much As Her Player Syndrome (TM). Kylah didn't say anything aloud about her jewelry--she just said the words "they took all of it." Kylah could be talking about her laundry, or more presents, or a big box of chocolate truffles. :)
I'll be curious to see if she changes her tune about Rangin when she hears the apparent evidence against him (grabbing Kylah, ominously saying "I didn't want it to be this way," Kylah accusing him of hurting her) and puts it together with his oddly distant/sketchy behavior--not reporting that he knows he was the last to see Kylah on the planet, claiming he didn't know anything about a sleazy bar, even his failure to visit Kylah for a while despite their having been... close, what with Collins now knowing Kylah bought the dress for him.
CIAS, you've done a mighty good job at making Velir look as bad as possible, all the while being perfectly in character and believable. He's just... saying and doing everything wrong, mostly out of pride or fear of being hurt. What makes this delightfully ironic is that it's the same pride that keeps Kylah from being truthful with him, as well.
Echoing his message above: well done, everyone! In addition to Velir's evisceration of Kylah and his understandably feeling victimized, there's Collins's berating of Graham (the "hat trick" line was great), Graham's single-minded determination to believe his eyes and ears (I mean, the guy may be wrong, but he has every reason to think what he does), and T'Var's cold order of Graham in an attempt to take control of the situation.
erp. oops. :D
EH: Please edit that section of my post as follows:
Robbery. That makes sense, given the evidence. What did she have with her in that bag? Why did she take it on shore leave? It had to something more valuable than the zither or the robbers wouldn't have destroyed it, they'd have just taken it, too. Why take the zither on shore leave? And what *did* happen to her uniform?
When EH gets back, he's gonna be like, "what the holy hell kind of clusterfuck just happened?!"
Except he'll be more gentlemanly about it. :)
:bravo:
Yes indeed it is amazing how things could go soooo sideways without anyone taking some out-of-character action, but nope, everybody's entirely true to form...!
Hey EH, before you kvetch, I know Nia forgot and used "shift" instead of "watch." My bad! :D
Speaking of watches, btw, what time is it, roughly speaking, in game-time? The shore leave was 4 hours, Kylah attacked roughly 1/2 hour after that, probably found twenty minutes later (or more?), and... after that I've lost track of time.
Nia's been on watch since before our day began. When does Onn get off?*
* Pun intended... as well as the innuendo, because it's Nia, after all. :D
Hmm. Maybe about 1430 ship's time - how's that sound?
Whoa, really? Of course it sounds fine with me... But boy, my guess was way off; for some reason I was picturing it nearly twilight when Kylah was looking for the starport. (Although time on Anubis may be different from shipboard time, right?)
That means when Kylah & Rangin first got to the pub it must've been only 10am or so--actually, given how much time has passed since Kylah was first found, it must've been closer to 9. Yet all of our Starfleet officers were drinking! Plus it sounds as if Collins and Graham were talking about going to sleep, and Johnson felt he was already late getting to the galley for dinner.
Clearly we all need better chronometers!
Well, given that it's 2:30, what time would Nia (and the rest of the gang) be off duty?
How can it only be 2:30? It has to be at least 4:00 pm.
Ok - Arrival was on time at Anubis at 09:17 (#2) + a bit extra to go into orbit.
Dr Brold is ready in five hours (#178)
Four hours shore leave granted immediately (#180)
Say shore leave starts at 09:30, it would end at 13:30.
Kylah was given an extra half hour making it 14:00 when the alarm was raised about her being missing.
Throw in an extra half hour for the searching, dealing with police in Thoth and Hathor, Kylah being rescued and operated on takes it to about 14:30 which matches up with Dr Brold being ready and the sensor array being beamed on board.
At that point, Rangin goes across to meet the guests, Collins and Graham return - say half and hour or so - which puts the confrontation in Sickbay at about 1500.
Does that sound reasonable?
Damn, Kylah and Rangin were drinking early. Actually given what happened the night before, hair of the dog no doubt.
Okay. That works. Thank you.
Sounds good. Thanks.
Thanks for the research, CIAS! A half-hour isn't at all far from EH's original guestimate so it's all good.
But is Anubis time different? The sky could be darker than mid-afternoon on the planet, right? She said hopefully?
Yes, it's already darker in Thoth, several posters have said (and I haven't contradicted them), so we'll go with that.
Cool, thanks. Seems more atmospheric somehow. :)
Interesting! Of course, she doesn't know what Russell proposed (unless Russell told her about it first), as Nia hasn't made the tablet's contents public. I guess she just gets a kick out of the word "intercourse." Or she's developed the same enhanced Knowledge (Meta) skill that Collins evinced earlier. :devil:Quote:
Bennett turns around and rolls her eyes at the Sidonian officer's pun, then cannot help but chuckle.
Ha, quite possible!
Y'know, the delicious irony of Rangin being a suspect is that he actually has the biggest responsibility for solving the case: not only did he find Kylah, he was also the one who picked up the DNA of one of the goons. But he has been doing a terrific job of acting guilty--I doubt anyone will be patting him on the back for his role in possibly saving Kylah's life and doing all the science-related scanning. He'll have Kylah's gratitude but, another irony, he probably doesn't want it. What a mess!
Not after she saw Graham try to rip Rangin's head off his body. She'd have too much "paperwork" if one killed the other. She hates filling out reports and such. :devil:
Nice. :bravo:
So EH none of the Security folks are going to play along with the nascent Security / Not Security divide by patting Graham on the back?
"By the way, nice work roughing up that Rangin guy, that'll teach other departments not to cross the Red Shirts! Boo Yah!" :devil:
Graham hasn't run into Russell or Harper yet. I'm sure they'd be happy to give him a friendly fist-bump, considering how they reacted after Rangin chided them once Kylah dressed them down for being inept. (Kjaerstad's probably a little disappointed he didn't get a chance to kick Kylah while she was down! :D)
And the chances of Graham being appreciative that Rangin hasn't completely dumped him in it? Nah, didn't think so.
Then again, still waiting for Vargas to ask his security team about all the investigating they did :D
And the landing party is still waiting for the local LEO to say "GO!"
For anyone who wants to learn more about Elasians, I offer this documentary, now available on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SRiIHirf_o
(Awe-filled voice) The historical documents!
(Boy I hope most of you get that reference...)
Given the stardate, btw, that would have been about two years ago. Kylah was in the 2nd year of the Academy. Of course, she took time off to attend the wedding on Troyius.
BTW, CIAS and I were literally just discussing how this episode highlights the difference between TOS and TNG. The morals of the TOS-era Federation are bizarre and somewhat hypocritical. They're against slavery but they completely enable the mistreatment of Elaan, who doesn't want to marry the prince of Troyius. Kirk knows Elaan loves him, but he doesn't really ever ask her "What do you want?" or anything.
Compare this with the (very similar--in fact, suspiciously so!) The Perfect Mate episode, from the TNG era, where Kamala was being "given" from one planet to another yet again to create peace between previously warring planets. Like Elaan, she has a special natural ability that makes her the object of obsessive desire by men (I love the famous bit where Riker meets up with her, wipes his face, and then mutters that he'll be in the holodeck :D). And, like Elaan, the Enterprise's captain captures her heart because he treats her differently (Picard treats Kamala with gentleness and respect; Kirk "tames" Elaan and drains out most of her fire). Both men are entranced in kind. They also know that their respective women do not love their intended spouses and are being forced to do this out of a sense of duty.
The big difference? Picard objects to this pimping out of a woman and the denial of her free will, and tries to convince her to do what she wants. Kirk... doesn't.
Of course in both cases there was no way the deal wasn't gonna go through. But the manner in which our protagonist reacts to this treatment of a woman as currency--in fact, even bringing up the subject that this is repugnant--is what makes The Perfect Gift a better and more touching episode, IMHO.
But you gotta love the costumes in Elaan of Troyius. Every one is a marvel of defying gravity!
By Grabthar's hammer, of course I got the reference.
BTW, those poor clueless censors "Are you out of your Vulcan mind?" I'll wager De had more fun with that line than any other in all of the three years
Also, in The Perfect Gift, Picard had to preside over the ceremony. Kirk just had to deliver the Dolman.
That's what made it sadder for poor Jean-Luc. :(
And I never caught the soundalike reference there w/Bones's line! I wonder if they had to try a few times to make sure it wasn't too close!
The soundalike joke has gone over my head all these years, too. Nice one, ST:TOS writers!
And yes, "The Perfect Mate" is a far better ep for all the reasons choie states. IIRC, though, Picard wasn't going to preside over the wedding ceremony; he just had to formally present Kamala to her aloof, uninterested new husband (not that that wasn't enough of an ordeal). I'd like to think that, in some alternate universe, Picard and Kamala were able to find happiness together after Alrik's death.
Of course, Stewart and Janssen would later appear together in the X-Men movies.
So, are the cops going to take Lez down or are they waiting for something else? :popcorn:
Don't tell me, Graham has decided to go all commando on him first.
We have a variety of meanings. I'll leave it as an exercise to work out which I mean :smug:
"Turnabout Intruder" was not a great TOS episode, but it was the last one. Check out the awesome remastered final view of the Enterprise at the conclusion (at 49:47): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yR4wySzEeA
Another Anubis in the news: http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/20/africa...ogs/index.html
Are you lot writing an all-action scene in the background showing Security turning into a full-on superheroes or something, yanno with quick cuts, strobe lighting, martial arts and general badassery :popcorn:
And to think Rangin gave that up for paperwork. :D
:D I think "general badassery" is not part of the Yorktown security crew's collective character sheet. :devil:
'Tis a month since Kylah's been sidelined by her assault, and ten days now since our intrepid landing party beamed down to the planet after learning a suspect's location and apparently right on his heels.
Dang, I sure hope there's an awesome criminal-catching scene being written in the background because the suspense is killing me! :popcorn:
Well, there's one thing I can do to pick up a dropped clue...
Yes, I know I goofed. I have messaged EH about it.
I don't know if you remember me telling you all about an RPG wherein each of our characters were from different genres? The GM had us appear on DS9, and we almost blew it up.
http://i.imgur.com/L4ltLtU.jpg
Going counter clockwise, starting with the one with her back to you is Clio, a 36th century android, a Desert Storm era Marine, a Medieval Mage (me) and a Feudal Japan Ninja. The mage and the ninja didn't quite know what to make of Quark.
OMG that picture is awesome. :bravo: Sounds like a great game! Also, I'm extremely impressed with Quark's sartorial flair!
(oops, that should have read 26th century android - similar to but more advanced than Data)
Yeah, we had a lot a of fun with "Unstuck in Time". We used GURPS as the base and the rest was completely from the mind of our GM. We also had an 18th C. pirate and a mid 20th C Vegas-wannabe magician with us, but they dropped out after a while.
Excellent picture anyrose. Looks like it was a fun and crazy game.
Gamma World for geek cred, G_U - honestly :p
Looks like a weird but good game. I only played Gamma World once; my hometown was described in one of the mass-market modules as having been overrun by radiation-blasted freaks. Sounded about right.
I played Champions quite a bit in college - a fun superhero game. My character was a superfast British guy who was a diplomat by day, and the crime-fighting Nightspeed after hours. Lots of AD&D when I was younger, too; I had a paladin who did quite well, earning the gratitude of the king, and rose to become a duke.
OK, so, if you want to the ante...I learned hexadecimal notation from the way classic Traveller coded descriptions of planets, and wrote the combination for my high school locker in plain sight in hex because I knew only 1 other kid at my school knew it...
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Just FYI, Nia does indeed know that only four officers are currently offship--or at least, there were until the transporter room just beamed more down. :) Her reference to 'several officers have been beamed on and off the ship' included earlier, when the group included others such as Rangin and Kjaerstad, and probably someone else I'm forgetting.
I should add, the transporter personnel haven't yet told Nia the new info--the names of the officers who've just been beamed off the ship. So who's with Graham's target, and who's with Jones's?
(Sorry, I'm only writing from this account because I was just about to make a Nia post. :D)
Oh, I getcha. I'll add more.
According to Nia, he hasn't yet. While Collins was talking to Bob Bobbins, Rawlings took out his communicator, but was never seen using it. Maybe he's just staring in pity at the poor schmuck who's either been stuck with--or invented--such a hilarious name. :)
Please send me a PM if there's something you expect to see in the game thread but haven't yet, rather than hash it out here in the setup thread. Thanks.
Rats, I didn't think we were hashing, but sure, fine by me! :)
Actually that brings up a request I wanted to make: when there's something our characters should have known because they live/work on a starship--but we obviously don't--could you give us the info here in the Setup thread rather than correcting us in-game, which usually takes the form of: "(Character) knows that (something that s/he presumably supposed to know but we just made it clear we don't)"?
Because, to take a recent example, when I've just had Kylah ask Singh for a communicator, and then the next GM post says "Kylah knows she can always use the library computer thingy* to contact whoever she wants," it kiiiiinda makes Kylah look, well, like a total ignorant idiot. :D (Especially considering she's a communications officer, heh!) Of course if there's a way to slip such factoids into the narrative without making it seem as if our characters have had temporary amnesia, that's perfect.
(Like, Singh could have said, "Certainly, I'll get you a communicator. In the meantime, don't hesitate to use the library computer thingy if you need to--oh, you probably can't see it from where you're lying, let me pull that nearer to you." Thus we get exposition without making it look as if Kylah has no idea what the communication machines are for despite the fact that it's her specialty.)
It's even worse with Nia, who's been on the ship longer than any of the other PCs; alas, as you know, I'm staggeringly stupid and ignorant when it comes to tech stuff, but Nia's reputation as a skilled, experienced officer shouldn't suffer just because she has a doofus for a player. So if you can give us the heads-up in the Setup thread--or even via PM--that would be incredibly helpful, if possible and not too much of a pain. Thanks!
* Note: this may be a paraphrase.
I second that request
Glad to. Thanks.
Mellophant ate my game thread post!
Thanks EH!! Muchly appreciated.
anyrose, I hate when that happens. The other day I was composing one of Nia's posts, a pretty long one (ha! big surprise), and it took me a while to write. When I pressed "submit," vBulletin gave me the login page and said I wasn't signed in. CRAP. I hadn't clicked the "remember me?" box and apparently my login had timed out. In haste, I clicked the back button hoping that my post would still be cached in my browser, but nope.
I then clicked the forward button again to get to the same login page. With great doubt, I logged in. And joy of joys, the post went through! I got very lucky there. Some day I'll remember to compose all my stuff in EditPad first.
:bravo: Can't help but be pleased by Graham's masterful use of Cop Mumbo Jumbo Pseudo-Legalese implying he can arrest these guys on any number of bullshit serious changes. :D
Yes, the various legal ploys, threads and charges have been amusing to watch!
Speaking of which: EH, is there a legal advocate on the ship? I remember Delaney acted as someone's counsel in or after the first mission, but having been knocked down to Ensign, will he still be an option for Nia to mention to Kylah? Even though she's a victim/witness, Nia's the type to recommend having an advocate whenever you're talking to a police officer.
There is no JAG officer assigned to the ship, of course, but any crewmember may ask any officer to voluntarily serve as an advocate in a nonjudicial proceeding. Delaney did so in a Captain's Mast. CMs are informal disciplinary proceedings short of courts-martial.
Talking to yourself again, choie? :devil: :dance:
Heh. It's all very meta.
I know, I know. I had a little fun with that. The two likely won't have much cause to interact for a while, so... :)
Thanks for the info, EH!
I always liked mysteries where the bad guys are given away by something physical, unremarkable but damning. It's so Sherlockian.
Problem with posting lag went away for a while. Now it seems to be back. And yes, when I posted T'Var's answer to Kylah's question about the suspects, none of the other posts were there. GAH!
Boy those questions were bizarre... almost as if Lunnd had meta knowledge of Kylah's lying about the zither! :devil: For the cop, why would some of those early questions matter in investigating a robbery? The value of the zither, absolutely, and who she spoke with in that bar... those were useful in determining the cause of the robbery, other people who might've been responsible, and the rationale for the muggers' behavior in not stealing the zither. But the how/why of the breakage, or why she didn't fix it herself? Hmmph!
Of course, if he were a defense lawyer for one of the robbers cross-examining her, sure, I guess it might undermine her a bit. Or, similarly, as a DA trying to work through any possible areas of weakness in her tale in preparation for prosecuting the case. Otherwise this just served to put her immediately on the defensive and make her feel as if she were being accused of something, which seems like poor judgment on Lunnd's side. I hope Graham, Collins and/or T'Var call him on such victim-blaming behavior, ahem! :devil:
She had already told her story in her own words; he followed up on points of interest, or that didn't quite add up. I've been involved in police investigations of this kind. Didn't seem "victim-blaming" to me. YMMV.
Actually I'm curious. :kitteh:
Just as an aside to the game, and from your experience EH, what is the rationale for the detective asking those questions about the zither and the one about Rangin being responsible for it?
I'd say taking such interest in Kylah's actions re: the zither, of all the unimportant things, does imply victim-blaming--as if whatever her reasons for not fixing the thing on her own, or seeking out a specialist, were to blame for the mugging. If she'd been raped, would he ask, "Why were you wearing that dress? What made you choose that bar? Why didn't you go to a nicer bar instead of one in the city?"
Actually--yeah, he probably would. And that would be wrong, too!
Nah c'mon -- Lunnd suffered from Too Much Meta Knowledge of Plot Syndrome. :D Also it was just the GM having fun: I bet you wanted to put me through the ringer to see how well I could cover her tracks!
I think his questions would've been more understandable for someone like Vargas, if he suspected she was up to something on the planet and needed her to explain herself, but less for Lunnd, who's just there to solve a mugging.
A good detective will want to know why someone, perhaps uncharacteristically given past Starfleet shore leave experiences on Anubis, found him- or herself in a dangerous place, and if that explanation is logical and consistent. The detective might wonder why a valuable piece of property was destroyed but not stolen. A colleague who was with that person but then left not long before things went bad may have been involved, and ought to be asked about, too. Romantic ties, or romances gone wrong, can make people behave in unpredictable ways, or give them cause to lie.
In any event, as I have noted in PMs to some players, this subplot is not the mission I intended, and I would prefer to wrap it up sooner rather than later.
Sigh! :D Okay, you're absolutely right. Lunnd is clearly the 23rd century's version of Sherlock Holmes, and just guessed out of nowhere that Rangin and Kylah were romantically involved, and also somehow intuited that a guy who beamed up about a half-hour before Kylah was attacked might be a suspect even though Kylah said she didn't recognize anyone.
He also, for whatever reason, fixated on what was wrong with the zither and wondered why Kylah didn't fix it herself, because that totally matters in catching the criminals. It had nothing to do with the GM's own knowledge of Graham's suspicions of Rangin, or the fact that we all know Kylah is lying; it was just Lunnd being that awesome a detective.
Damn, too bad he's not in Starfleet Security. He should have Vargas's job! (God knows Vargas is pretty much playing out the stereotypical "I've got two weeks left until retirement, I'm not doing a damn thing anymore!" trope.)
She's the victim of a kidnapping/mugging. Unless there's some reason he doesn't think she was really attacked and this is all some kind of setup for... I dunno, some insurance scam?...why does it matter why she was in the bar? Her motives are really irrelevant here.Quote:
A good detective will want to know why someone, perhaps uncharacteristically given past Starfleet shore leave experiences on Anubis, found him- or herself in a dangerous place, and if that explanation is logical and consistent.
Even granting that those motives re: why she went to the bar matter, why would he need to ask why she didn't fix the zither herself?! Bonkers!
Absolutely true, but what on earth does Kylah's not going to an Elasian expert have to do why the criminals destroyed the zither?Quote:
The detective might wonder why a valuable piece of property was destroyed but not stolen.
Yep, except he beamed up back to the ship a half-hour before Kylah was attacked. I'm not saying Rangin's not a potential suspect (because he's been acting like one--awesome job on that ambiguity from CIAS, and to general_urko for being willing to have his character jump to that conclusion--notice how good many of the players are at having their characters make mistakes? That's realistic! God knows Kylah acts stupid most of the time).Quote:
A colleague who was with that person but then left not long before things went bad may have been involved, and ought to be asked about, too.
But it still seems like a huge leap considering Rangin's schedule, at least for someone who doesn't already hate Rangin (like Graham) or who isn't already aware of his odd behavior.
Wouldn't Lunnd have been wise to ask Graham about Rangin in private? Perhaps he eventually will, but I doubt it given your oft-stated desire to hurry this thing up. More on that later, ahem.
Mais naturellement. But the leap to assuming Rangin was a romantic partner was a pretty darn big one for someone who knows nothing about anyone, and who hadn't spoken to Graham about Graham's suspicions or any other crew members, etc.Quote:
Romantic ties, or romances gone wrong, can make people behave in unpredictable ways, or give them cause to lie.
Y'know what's really frustrating here? That this gaffe could be fixed so darn easily. I won't even tell you right now how I'd fix it, I'll give you a few paragraphs to mull it over before revealing this delightfully easy and logical explanation for Lunnd's seemingly preternatural knowledge of the Rangin/Kylah situation. Feel free to use it, it really does clear everything up and makes the Thoth cops look awfully good. There, that's a hint for you. :)
As long as we're talking about this good detective and his questions: for a genius like Lunnd, he sure skipped some obvious and important areas of questioning! And for most of them, the only reason he didn't ask them was meta-related: the players and GM all pretty much know they're not relevant (except one or two actually are, and relevance didn't matter where the zither was concerned, so...). Here they are:
1. "I know a little about your background. If I understand correctly, you're a member of a wealthy royal family. Is this fact widely known on your ship, or in the public?"
Rationale for asking: finding out if someone who knew she was wealthy arranged for this seemingly random mugging. And finding out if it could possibly be a crewmate in cahoots with someone.
2. "Did anyone in the bar seem aware of who you are, or of your wealth? Have you ever been threatened before?"
Rationale for asking: again, to learn if her status attracted attention and might have been the motive for the crime; also to know if the kidnapping was intended to be a proper kidnapping, perhaps, but once she was injured the perps got nervous. The threats are an obvious point of interest as well.
3. "You mention that this was a valuable zither. What made it so valuable? Would its worth have been obvious to average, unknowledgeable criminals?"
Rationale: to determine how easy it was to tell that the zither was valuable; also, whether the criminals were ignorant and didn't recognize that the zither could be worth money, which is why it wasn't stolen.
4. "Could the fact that the zither was broken explain why they destroyed it rather than take it? Would it have any worth even as a broken object?"
Rationale: self-explanatory, pretty much; to figure out if the thieves thought a broken zither was useless, whether it was or not, they might have broken it/left it behind.
5. "How certain are you that you didn't notice anyone following you outside the bar?" (And btw he should be asking Rangin this as well.)
Rationale: to pin down whether this was the money-changing guy or anyone else from the bar.
6. "Your dress was ripped, and you also mention that the men seem to have discovered your communicator despite it being hidden beneath your clothes; finally, your uniform is also missing. Did these men threaten you in any sexual way?"
Rationale: because this is a question any investigator would ask of a woman whose clothes were ripped and she'd apparently been... handled... by a group of three men. It's unpleasant but it's cray-cray that none of the investigators has specifically asked this question of T'Var or Villa or Kylah. Ruling out a sexual component is simply foolish.
(He might also have asked T'Var about any sexual injuries, which none of the cops have done yet. Again, you know there were no sexual wounds, but neither Graham nor Lunnd or any of the others have that knowledge.)
Rationale: checking off a natural area of exploration, and meta, to make your investigators look like they know what they're doing and DON'T have the same info that Villa/T'Var/the GM and Players do.
7. "You say the bartender referred you to the money exchanger. Did the bartender give you the man's name? What about the man, did he give you any identification?"
Rationale: Hardly needs explaining, does it?
8. And here's the kicker, the question that this genius Sherlock Lunnd absolutely should've asked no matter what: "Can you describe this money exchange man?"
Rationale: because he's supposed to be a freakin' detective and this is the numero uno question any person should have asked!
All those would've been way more relevant questions for a good detective than, for example, why Kylah didn't seek out an Elasian specialist to fix her zither!
All of the above was written without the hindsight of seeing the latest Lunnd questions. So now he's asking even MORE questions that imply Kylah is somehow involved in some criminal activity herself, or is somehow to blame for this, or... really, anything other than a victim. "What other plans did you have?" WHAT does that matter? One or two questions are almost close to some of my above questions, so yay for that, but Mr. Genius Detective still hasn't asked a single thing about what the hell this money exchange guy looks like... and he's the most obvious suspect!
Whew. Okay, as promised, here's the way Lunnd could've found out about Rangin/Kylah without it requiring meta knowledge:
(For those playing at home: are you ready? Have you guessed how this easy fix could have been (and still could be) done?)
Spoiler (mouseover to read):
Quite simply, Lunnd (or some other local cops) found some witnesses of the argument between Kylah and Velir, though none were close enough to hear precisely what happened. And neither CIAS nor I would've argued that point, because I don't think Kylah or Velir were paying attention to anyone else--no one else existed for them during that awful argument.
Boom, fixed! Now, not only have the Thoth cops done some good due diligence, this solution also could add some stuff for Rangin to do (he could be questioned now, although ideally by a different detective so as to not waste time). I mean, poor Velir hasn't had anything to do in at least 50 posts--except for my purposely dragging him in briefly via Nia's thanking him.
Anyway. That's all I'm going to say about the questions, because I think Kylah properly addressed them in my last post.
Now for that last line in your post re: delays.
To everyone else: beyond my original idea of just having Kylah get mugged and her zither broken, after which she could've just shamefacedly beamed back up to ship with some injuries for help and that's the end of it--the delays in the mission were not. my. fault.
I know EH didn't specify me here, but I don't want anyone else thinking I had this master idea of dragging out a Kylah Trauma Plot just for my own angst-loving kicks. My original thought was to have Kylah get some needed karma for using her not-really-broken zither in her lies and, therefore, having it destroyed, and her money lost, in order to teach her a (rather harsh, admittedly) lesson. I thought she'd get mugged, hurt somewhat, but able to use her communicator to get beamed back to the ship. Easy peasy lemon squeezy. Velir would feel bad, she'd have her idea of running away quashed, and that's it.
I think it's wonderful and thrilling that the rest of the crew got involved, because I think we've had fun with a mini-investigation, and everyone's had some good moments. Still, I just wanted to make sure y'all knew my original suggestion to EH would've taken up a week of game time, tops. :) I'm looking forward to getting the proper mission started too. Honestly I thought this could be done simultaneously, which is why I thought Kylah would be back on board the ship and we'd be off long ago.
A happy, glorious Independence Day to my fellow American Mellophanters!
Thanks, EH, and the same to you!
ADAMS: It's a masterpiece, I say. They will cheer every word, every letter!
JEFFERSON: I wish I felt that way.
FRANKLIN: I believe I can put it better.
Now then attend,
as friend to friend,
our Declaration committee.
For us I see immortality
in Philadelphia City.
A farmer, a lawyer, and a sage...
...a bit gouty in the leg.
You know it's quite bizarre
to think that here we are,
playing midwife to... an egg.
(Sorry for the anti-British tenor of the song, dear CIAS. You know how I feel about your green and pleasant land!)
:) Mine too. The film is mandatory viewing every year!
Quelle heure est-il, in-game, EH? Feels like the current Bridge crew have been on duty since about 0800, right? It was 1501 just before Collins and Graham got the call to beam down to the planet with Lunnd, and we've had the chase and interview since then. Can Nia get off soon?
....So to speak? :devil:
How about 1630, and time for a watch change?
Hells to the yeah!
Note to all: it's Sickbay, not "the infirmary."
Oh sorry about that, I think I accidentally used that once and general_urko picked up on it, but as you notice I've used Sickbay a few times since. Just a slip.
Righto.
If you liked the ST:TNG episode "The Inner Light," http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wik...ight_(episode), in which Picard, influenced by an ancient alien probe, lives a long and happy life with a wife and children on a dying world, you might want to see this webcomic sequel: http://journeytotheinnerlight.com/outerlight/page1.php. The artwork is a bit crude, and I don't really like the direction the story goes in (better, I think, to have left the episode alone), but you might like it.
nope. didn't like it.
and not for nuthin', but for someone who wants to wrap this up quickly, your NPC is sure dragging things out. Are you sure you have him under control? :devil: :dance:
Thanks for linking to the comic. I'll be honest, I didn't understand the comic's plot. Something something certain baddies involved with Kataanians, blah blah not everything is as it seems, yadda yadda gratuitous sexy panel of strippers on the Enterprise (wtf was that about), then creepy ending. :D The guy at least tried something unusual. (The art captured Riker well enough, but dayum, Picard's face was way off.)
It did amuse me that we're apparently supposed to believe thatSpoiler (mouseover to read):
Eline created a self-insert fan-fiction where she gets to romance whoever found the probe.
As for Lunnd's questions... hey, I might not like the tenor he took with Kylah right off the bat, but at least now he has a reason to be more assertive with Rangin instead of ESP, since I gave him a gimme by having Kylah slip and reveal that she and Velir argued. (Lunnd can thank me later.)
Of course I completely understand why Collins is baffled. She's seeing someone actually investigating, whereas she only gets the whole shooting phasers and bullying part of her job. Displaying curiosity as to obvious anomalous behavior that she actually witnessed--normally good-guy Velir Rangin being viciously cruel to an assault victim lying in a sickbay bed--is beyond Collins's programming. :dance:
Yeah. She'd never make it into Mensa.
So, Graham, no sticking up for kid sister Collins, huh? :dubious: