So, in chat just a bit ago Count Blucher accused me of being antisemitic and talking about beating up Jews. When I came into chat he was posting pictures of the Wicked Witch of the West from The Wizard of Oz and saying they were me. This didn't surprise me since I've been emailed snippets from chat where he's been running his mouth about me. Since I came in right when he was doing it, I did ask him about it and this is when he decided to lie about me. Here is the chat log: that chat should be read from the top down
Usually it is the person accusing someone else that needs to find the proof, but what he said borders on libelous, so I wanted to be sure the information was posted. I took his advice and searched the chat logs. He said "a few days ago" but I went back to the beginning of August and used the word "Jew" to do a search. Here are the results. I apologize for the length of this post, but I wanted to post them.Sleeps w/Butterflies You know, Count.... for someone who wants to appear to be just a chatter and be pissy because people are mean to one another you sure do have a hardon for saying shit about me when I'm not here
**he then posts another pic**
Count Blucher "And don't come back until you start a fight with another poster!! Ye-H-ha-ha-ha!"
Sleeps w/Butterflies You're quite the bitchy chatter yourself, Count
Sleeps w/Butterflies Why, if I was the reporting people type I'd have to say you have developed a form of harassment against me
Jeff REPORT HIS ASS
Sleeps w/Butterflies Seriously Jefe, he seems to have a fondness for zeroing in on me yet he's quite guilty of talking shit usually when I'm not here
Count Blucher I'll try not to use sexist bigotry in my wording, Sleeps. Oh wait, thats you.
Jeff wtf count?
Sleeps w/Butterflies Sexist bigotry? Do explain
Count Blucher I'll try not to make antisemetic remarks about martial arts. Oh wait, thats you...
Sleeps w/Butterflies haw haw haw OMG you're pissy about me saying I'm taking Krav Maga from the Jews? That's how THEY refer to themselves with me you dolt
Jeff is he just upset because a gentile is getting taught secret Jewish martial arts?
Count Blucher you could take it from anybody; why your, to use your bigoted phrase 'hard-on' for typing the word 'Jew'?
Zuul Is "Jew" antisemitic?
Sleeps w/Butterflies Um Count. The Israeli Army developed Krav Maga. Why not take it directly from them?
Count Blucher why pargraphs about beating up Jews?
Ivan astikov do JEW know what JEW are JEWING?
Elyanna I AM NOW WORSE THAN HITLER
Sleeps w/Butterflies who is talking about beating up Jews? Are you mental?
Jeff JWE
Elyanna I AM TYPIG THE WORD JEW
Count Blucher you did, just the other day. were you lying then? Or now?
Zuul Yes, it's a well-known fact that before WWII Hitler made Jew jokes on the telegraph.
Zuul It's how it all began.
pepperlandgirl Sleeps said she beats up on Jews?
Sleeps w/Butterflies I said no such thing
Sleeps w/Butterflies You are batshit crazy
Count Blucher go to the logs...
binks jew'r joking right, count?
Count Blucher I guess i don't like jokes about beating up Jews...
Sleeps w/Butterflies You are INSANE
Sleeps w/Butterflies I said the guys that are TRAINING ME are Jewish. They said "These other people are taking fake Krav Maga from gyms and you are taking it from real live Jews" so that's why I say "real live Jews" when I talk about my classes
Count Blucher but I didn't make them, so my conscience is clear.
Jeff holy fucking panties, bunched
Sleeps w/Butterflies you are a liar
Sleeps w/Butterflies no one has ever said anything about beating up Jews.
binks dude, youre SERIOUS?
Jeff look sleeps, if you would just stop making imaginary comments about beating jews you'd be all right
pepperlandgirl Count, seriously, are you referring to her post about taking the classes from real Jews, or are you talking about something she said in chat?
Sleeps w/Butterflies If someone makes an accusation like that, they sure better be able to back it up because that was NEVER said
binks shes not talking about 'beating jews' WTF
binks I dont see how anyone could take that from whats been said. thats insane
Here is the chat record from 8/13/09
Here is the chat log from the day before, 8/12/09. When I came in binks and terrifel were doing some teasing they like to do and Binksie brought it up...Sleeps w/Butterflies I'm not a fan of Whedon at all
Jeff The devil, you say!
binks she's gonna kill you with her jew skillz
Count Blucher ... and Rumple Stilskin stamps his foot & splits himself in two....
Sleeps w/Butterflies Binksy I have a lesson with my jews this afternoon! I my Jews
binks I only wish I was strong enough to beat up men. I need to find me some jews!
Sleeps w/Butterflies Binksy, I'd help you if I could
What Exit? binks, that is what frying pans and bats are for. Or martial arts training.
What Exit? If you are going to be a bully, be a smart bully.
Count Blucher Yeah, do it in court.
Sleeps w/Butterflies Krav Maga for the win! Eye gouges, nut kicks and throat strikes!
binks I have no quims about fighting dirty, but I had a guy over power both me and my mom at one point
ivan astikov hey Sleeps, how fit do you have to be to do that KM?
What Exit? See Sleeps knows how to do it. I think I would be very afraid of her in a fight.
ivan astikov Is it an advanced martial art or can you jump right in?
Sleeps w/Butterflies Ivan, there is a girl they teach that is probably about 5'4" and about 200 pounds and they teach her just fine. They say they teach you to use what you already have and work with your strengths and weaknesses
Count Blucher q: Once you have taken all these courses, should you beat the heck out of somebody, might not the DA have a field day with it? Hypothetically, of course....
Count Blucher That whole 'hands trained as deadly weapons' thing...
ivan astikov or are you training to get in and out as quick as possible, rather than a sustained onslaught?
ivan astikov surely you'd need to have good cardio, at least?
Sleeps w/Butterflies Yeah Ivan, Krav Maga is designed for causing the most amount of damage possible in the shortest amount of time and then leaving
Sleeps w/Butterflies http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga
binks I has a jealous
Sleeps w/Butterflies One of mah jews was an israeli police officer and in some military branch in Israel. He has all of his certificates and pictures and stuff that he shows you. He is badass
binks you know that thread about girl on guy crime? we're about to experience it for real in chat
binks QUICK! Lend me your jew powers sleepy!
Myrnalene hey, Sleepy
terrifel binks how do you type with your thick armadillo claws?
Sleeps w/Butterflies I those Jews who teach me to kill. Hi Myrna!!!!!!
Myrnalene
Excalibur ? Come on, vogue! You've got to just let your body move to the music! ?
Sleeps w/Butterflies I have a class wif mah Jews tomorrow. I will tell them again how much I them. Ahhhh there's my fellow Madonna fan. Exy
binks excuse me, I am momentarily overcome by rage
terrifel momentarily?
Chat log from the day before, 8/11/09.
On 8/3/09 the only mention of Jew was here. I wasn't even there, but you can clearly see no harm was meant.ivan astikov i'm safe. i've made a vow never to go with a female with bigger biceps or thighs than me.
binks what about sleeps with her ninja skills?
binks she's teensy
Sleeps w/Butterflies no no, ninjas are asian... I'm taking lessons from the Jews
binks and I'm small, but I've got a rocket launcher
ivan astikov a good ninja has no chance against a good MMA fighter. and i can always hire one of them if she started bullying me
binks ninja, jew, she can still kick some ass
These chat logs can be viewed by anyone by using the link above. The only altering I've done is to bold the names, remove the times to make it easier to read, and to remove a few pics and Star Trek conversations that were going on around the pertinent parts.pepperlandgirl And really, who wants to be like the Irish?
pepperlandgirl Oh wait, AG's not in here, so my insult is for nothing. Hmm, and our Canadians aren't in here either, so I can't even make a crack about Canada.
pepperlandgirl that's unfortunate
OtakuLoki A good insult gone begging because there's no one to be offended by it.
pepperlandgirl yep
OtakuLoki If we started insulting jews, I bet we'd get Fenris in here....
What can be clearly seen is that although Count Blucher was certainly positive that I was talking about beating up Jews he was either lying or plain old wrong. When multiple people told him he was wrong he did not back down so it seemed that he was *that* sure of it. Hopefully he will come in and enlighten me on where this supposed conversation happened since I know I've never talked about such a thing, ever.
I am taking the classes for SELF DEFENSE. I am not some brawling broad who fights people. The only fights I've ever been in were when I was about 18-20 and used to get my ass beat by my ex who was about a foot taller, 70 pounds heaver than me, and a guy. I realize Count has some experience in fistfights, but I can't say that I do nor do I want to.
For him to make such outrageous claims without being able to back them up makes me question his honesty and/or whether he is a troll. I don't care a bit if he doesn't like me or thinks I'm a bitch. I *know* I can be a bitch, big damned deal. To accuse me of such hateful things is very clearly "being a jerk" of the highest order.
So Count, where is your proof?
PS - I'd like to thank historianofchat for making these chat logs available to us. Without being able to go back to them there might be some people who would believe his despicable lies.