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    Welll, have read through this and the rest and at this point MC needs to be banned, regardless of fixing the chat window. There are lines you do not cross and he has stepped over them. MC is no longer funny. If he has a sock then, he will be treated in exactly the same way as we deal with other socks. On a case by case basis.

    As for never banning and always sticking them in Room 101, the answer to that is simply bwhitman. I don't remember the same outcry when he was shown the door.
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    Quote Originally posted by CatInASuit
    As for never banning and always sticking them in Room 101, the answer to that is simply bwhitman. I don't remember the same outcry when he was shown the door.
    I didn't think that was the right decision either, for the record.

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    I do. For the record. A 78 of Spike Jones, to be exact.
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    Honestly, I don't care either way. We can keep the sideshow or dump him. It looks like we can lock MC and others out of causing issues while 101'd but I thought MC stopped being vaguely interesting a long time ago.

    I still think Winston reacted correctly but missed explaining why he did it initially. MC had crossed a line where if he followed through on the threat, it could have meant trouble for CRSP or McNutty.

    BTW: Sleeps, I think you misread Winston, I think he meant he wanted people to know where he was coming from.

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    Edited: nevermind

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    Quote Originally posted by danceswithcats
    Good luck, Winston. I raised this same topic a while ago, and was shouted down by the same cadre who now oppose you. Betcha you'll get fucked in the next mod "election", too.
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    I see we've found a new issue to get all up in arms over. Oh no, mods might be using their discretion and acting unilaterally when it comes to a really fucking serious issue.

    Before I get into that, I want to say that if all bbcode has been disabled in Room 101, then I have no problem with letting MC fester in there. I don't think it's worth worrying about that particular forum being dominated by horrible awful things nobody wants to see. I don't particularly see the point, but whatever. At that point, I don't feel like there's a personal risk to me.

    That said, in case it's not obvious, I'm 100% behind Winston on this issue, and I'm going one step further. Here is how it is going to work: When someone threatens to (or does) post child porn or links to it, they will be banned without discussion or a vote. No compromise on this issue. If the mods don't agree to this, please let me know so I can log into the server and shut the board down as soon as humanly possible.

    All the images posted here, with the exception of avatars, are "just links" to images hosted on other sites, but when stupid people who don't understand how the internet works apply the law, they don't necessarily make that kind of distinction. If your server serves a page that has an image of child porn in it and that comes to the attention of the right people, the police are going to act first and ask questions later. I am assuming the absolute worst here, meaning they confiscate the server and possibly enter my house and confiscate my computers, including those belonging to my employer, at which point my life and the lives of others close to me just got really really really fucked up because certain people think the "sport" of entertaining this idiot is so goddamn important. And even if we're just talking text links and no images, I'm still not budging. The guys who started The Pirate Bay are in fucking jail, and their entire operation was simply links tracking where to find illegal content -- and those were just run-of-the-mill copyright violations, not stuff that gets your ass hunted down by vigilantes before you exonerate yourself . The law and the people enforcing it simply do not understand technical subtleties and are not particularly interested in figuring them out. If domebo has links to child porn, it's not a particularly big stretch for someone to make the claim that we're disseminating information about it, and for my ass to get arrested. Whether you personally agree that that's right is irrelevant.

    When it comes to this issue, I am not compromising, and I'm not listening to any hand-wringers who want to argue about transparency and free speech and democracy and whether it's good and just and desirable to ban someone who threatens to start screwing around with child porn. If the board administration wants to be pushed around by the more vocal members such that we need to be tolerant of people threatening to post child porn or links to it, then the board needs to get the off my server immediately.

    Want to call me scared? Fine. This scares me. If you are not scared on my behalf, then I invite you to volunteer your own server.

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    IP ban MC. He's a one-trick pony that needs to be sent to the glue factory. And the child porn thing is just too far.

    Then we can all hold hands and sing kumbaya. Right guys? Guys? GUYS?
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    So am I the only one that thinks that if MC was actually going to post illegal material, he would have just gone ahead and done it instead of running his mouth about it? And yet all of you are treating this situation as if he actually had. I'm reminded of Joe Buck sanctimoniously telling the viewing audience what a disgusting act we had just witnessed when Randy Moss mimed mooning the crowd at a football game. If you're going to ban him, ban him for what he's actually done. Right now you're just giving him a martyr complex.

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    Quote Originally posted by McNutty

    That said, in case it's not obvious, I'm 100% behind Winston on this issue, and I'm going one step further. Here is how it is going to work: When someone threatens to (or does) post child porn or links to it, they will be banned without discussion or a vote. No compromise on this issue. If the mods don't agree to this, please let me know so I can log into the server and shut the board down as soon as humanly possible...



    ...When it comes to this issue, I am not compromising, and I'm not listening to any hand-wringers who want to argue about transparency and free speech and democracy and whether it's good and just and desirable to ban someone who threatens to start screwing around with child porn. If the board administration wants to be pushed around by the more vocal members such that we need to be tolerant of people threatening to post child porn or links to it, then the board needs to get the off my server immediately.

    Want to call me scared? Fine. This scares me. If you are not scared on my behalf, then I invite you to volunteer your own server.
    I am sorry if this upsets anyone, but I totally agree. It scares me a lot that we could have legal issues because McNutty is willing to host this board. Please respect the fact that I don't want anything to do with child porn and our server.

    It's easy to talk about free speech for trolls when you aren't the one who could be held liable for the shit they spew.

    I really appreciate that Winston decided to react quickly in this circumstance. It was a judgment call and I think it was a good one.

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    McNutty and SugarPlum, thank you, the both of you, for putting this into perspective. While it's a big Internet hypothetical to most of us, to the two of you it's not something to risk.

    All of my rhetorical questions and general disinterest in drama aside, I do agree that Winston absolutely made the right call here. A quick, unilateral decision to ban in the face of a potential threat is not a bad thing. I doubt that MC would have truly posted links to child pornography, but Jesus, is that honestly a threat we're going to call someone's bluff on? As a mod who might have to deal with removing images or malicious links, I don't want to be quite that "wild west." Frankly, I think that one would end my message board days for good.
    So now they are just dirt-covered English people in fur pelts with credit cards.

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    Quote Originally posted by Emperor Norton
    So am I the only one that thinks that if MC was actually going to post illegal material, he would have just gone ahead and done it instead of running his mouth about it? And yet all of you are treating this situation as if he actually had. I'm reminded of Joe Buck sanctimoniously telling the viewing audience what a disgusting act we had just witnessed when Randy Moss mimed mooning the crowd at a football game. If you're going to ban him, ban him for what he's actually done. Right now you're just giving him a martyr complex.
    Oh, I think he's blowing hot air, sure--but neither do I want to gamble that he's not. He's a stupid troll and not worth the risk. He threatened to link to child porn. No skin off my back if that's a bannable offense.
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    Quote Originally posted by Emperor Norton
    So am I the only one that thinks that if MC was actually going to post illegal material, he would have just gone ahead and done it instead of running his mouth about it?
    I don't care if he's actually going to do it. It's unlikely that he will or ever planned to, especially given that he'd have to be even stupider than anyone ever estimated to actually follow through. Doesn't matter a bit.

    And yet all of you are treating this situation as if he actually had.
    If you walk up to me with a baseball bat and tell me you're going to hit me with it, I am going to respond as if you actually intend to hit me with it. Having someone threaten to post child porn on your server and then waiting to see if they really do it would just be stupid.

    This threat, even if it's an empty threat, is hereby a way to officially declare that you no longer want to be part of the board. Akin to, say, emailing an admin and asking them to delete your account. Yep, I've decided this by fiat, because I'm an ogre. If and when the board moves to a server I don't own, someone else gets to decide whether that rule stays.

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    Quote Originally posted by Emperor Norton
    So am I the only one that thinks that if MC was actually going to post illegal material, he would have just gone ahead and done it instead of running his mouth about it? And yet all of you are treating this situation as if he actually had. I'm reminded of Joe Buck sanctimoniously telling the viewing audience what a disgusting act we had just witnessed when Randy Moss mimed mooning the crowd at a football game. If you're going to ban him, ban him for what he's actually done. Right now you're just giving him a martyr complex.
    I'm sure MC is loving every moment of this as well. It doesn't matter because this is something you don't joke about.

    You don't take the risk, you don't call his bluff, you just ban him.

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    Quote Originally posted by Emperor Norton
    So am I the only one that thinks that if MC was actually going to post illegal material, he would have just gone ahead and done it instead of running his mouth about it? And yet all of you are treating this situation as if he actually had. I'm reminded of Joe Buck sanctimoniously telling the viewing audience what a disgusting act we had just witnessed when Randy Moss mimed mooning the crowd at a football game. If you're going to ban him, ban him for what he's actually done. Right now you're just giving him a martyr complex.
    As a counter-example, when the issue came up a couple of weeks ago about banning SBSO for saying he was going to troll, I was against that for pretty much the reasons you give here. Action can be taken when something actionable has been done, otherwise you're just rising to the bait.

    In this case, however, the stakes are different. As McNutty explained, because this board (and McNutty himself) can get into very real and serious trouble if someone posts links to child porn, the reactive approach doesn't work here. MC was an entertaining troll, I guess, but he crossed a pretty unambiguous line by threatening to cause real-life trouble for other members.

    If banning him feeds his martyr complex, so be it. I doubt anything anyone here says would receive a rational response from that boy.
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    Quote Originally posted by Excalibur
    Yeah man. It's pretty terrible when a bunch of users don't comply with a moderator's demands. It's just against nature, really.
    Are you kidding? What have we demanded of you?

    I think you know you're losing traction with the real argument here, so you're resorting to your fallback position of vague comments that sort of suggest the mod staff is somehow persecuting you. Nothing anyone could pin on you later on, because you could just weasel out of any ownership of these sentiments (since they are essentially meaningless, except I think I've got your intent nailed down). You're just putting it out there to stir up a little dissent.

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    I agree with the excellent posts of Excalibre and Myrnalene, and probably some of the others in this thread.

    If a poster wants to troll the board, there is not much you can do to stop them. This way lies madness. It should be incumbent upon the other posters to ignore that poster. How hard is it to avert your eyes and skip a post?

    Winston Smith's behavior in this thread reminds me of the worst excesses of the SDMB administration. He needs to step down immediately. As a matter of fact, I was surprised he was taken back as a moderator a while ago after his erratic behavior - posting nosense in the 'Dome, resigning with no explanation, then again, with no explanation, wanting to come back. His attitude in here that moderators should do whatever they want without care for what the posts want is a red flag. If CRSP can't bring it upon himself to fire him then we should have another moderator election. The last one was a good way of trimming the deadwood, and it looks like it's already time again.

    McNutty's supposed "concerns" for his server remind me of the pretexts they use at the Dope to ban a whole bunch of stuff like copyrights, DVD backups, etc. What's next? Someone jokes in a thread "McNutty, I should sue you for that" and all of a sudden that person is banned with no warning? That's the kind of stuff I can get elsewhere in a more active forum with more posters. McNutty, you can take off the tinfoil hat - I'm sure that the FBI and CIA are not closely monitoring all the internet traffic in and out of your basement.

    Y'all are starting down a bad road.

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    On the other hand, Winston, nice use of italics in your last post.

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    Well I think we are suppose to do this in the Hive, but I will cast my vote and my lot for keeping MC banned at this point.
    That makes 4 votes at least for banning. CIAS, Sublight, myself and Winston of course. I think it was T&B that convinced me in the end. Thank you for the help.


    I just remind people, MC will probably be back shortly with his socks.

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    Quote Originally posted by Winston Smith
    Quote Originally posted by Excalibur
    Yeah man. It's pretty terrible when a bunch of users don't comply with a moderator's demands. It's just against nature, really.
    Are you kidding? What have we demanded of you?

    I think you know you're losing traction with the real argument here, so you're resorting to your fallback position of vague comments that sort of suggest the mod staff is somehow persecuting you. Nothing anyone could pin on you later on, because you could just weasel out of any ownership of these sentiments (since they are essentially meaningless, except I think I've got your intent nailed down). You're just putting it out there to stir up a little dissent.
    Yeah so I was specifically responding to Danceswithcats' characterization of other people disagreeing with him as "shouting him down" but hey don't let me interfere with your self-righteousness or anything.

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    On the other hand, Winston, nice use of italics in your last post.

    What Exit, I am sorely disappointed in you. I know you have good intentions but what is happening to you man? Think of what you may be turning into.

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    Quote Originally posted by What Exit?
    I just remind people, MC will probably be back shortly with his socks.
    Does this mean the beginnig of the sock hunts? If not, then this whole banning kerfluffle was an empty exercise, and the only benefit you got out of it is antagonizing some of the good posters on this board.

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    Quote Originally posted by Truth and Beauty
    On the other hand, Winston, nice use of italics in your last post.
    Thanks. I took a night course in creative writing at Community College once.

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    [quote=Truth and Beauty]
    Quote Originally posted by "What Exit?":l7v36y4p
    I just remind people, MC will probably be back shortly with his socks.
    Does this mean the beginnig of the sock hunts? If not, then this whole banning kerfluffle was an empty exercise, and the only benefit you got out of it is antagonizing some of the good posters on this board.[/quote:l7v36y4p]
    Neither in my opinion. Neither an empty gesture nor a declaration of sock hunting. However I will admit it is a gesture largely without teeth.

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    Quote Originally posted by Winston Smith
    Thanks. I took a night course in creative writing at Community College once.
    And it shows!

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    Quote Originally posted by What Exit?
    Neither an empty gesture
    Well, not empty in the sense that it did accomplish something. Unfortunately, since you're not getting rid of MC by this method, the thing it did accomplish was not very productive.

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    [quote=Truth and Beauty]
    Quote Originally posted by "What Exit?":2n37lp2f
    Neither an empty gesture
    Well, not empty in the sense that it did accomplish something. Unfortunately, since you're not getting rid of MC by this method, the thing it did accomplish was not very productive.[/quote:2n37lp2f]
    I cannot disagree with you on this one.

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    [quote=Truth and Beauty]
    Quote Originally posted by "Winston Smith":1s8u277c
    Thanks. I took a night course in creative writing at Community College once.
    And it shows![/quote:1s8u277c]

    I know! That was the best $280 I ever spent!

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    Before I read the rest of the thread, I just want to say that I agree with McNutty 100%. This isn't our risk, it's his, and therefore it's his call. It's that simple.

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    Quote Originally posted by featherlou
    Before I read the rest of the thread, I just want to say that I agree with McNutty 100%. This isn't our risk, it's his, and therefore it's his call. It's that simple.
    So we all have to kowtow to whatever McNutty wants to see happen on the board? Whatever.

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    I have no problem with mods sock-hunting for banned member IPs.

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    Quote Originally posted by Truth and Beauty
    Quote Originally posted by featherlou
    Before I read the rest of the thread, I just want to say that I agree with McNutty 100%. This isn't our risk, it's his, and therefore it's his call. It's that simple.
    So we all have to kowtow to whatever McNutty wants to see happen on the board? Whatever.
    You can look at it that way. Or you can look at if from the perspective that McNutty volunteered a server he had when we were unable to continue on the server that we currently had, and as the server provider, he has risks and responsibilities that are different from those of regular posters, and that's just a fact of life.

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    Quote Originally posted by What Exit?
    I just remind people, MC will probably be back shortly with his socks.
    As an aside, I suspect that whoever the poster was that was behind the MC sock was getting bored with MC's gimmick and wanted to be banned as an end to the "Misanthropic Contrarian Story Arc" (so to speak). He did almost exactly the same thing over at Giraffe--he dared us to ban him and hey, we did.

    I believe him when he says he has other identities and is contributing here and there. MC was getting stale and I'll bet the person behind him knew it.

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    Quote Originally posted by Truth and Beauty
    What Exit, I am sorely disappointed in you. I know you have good intentions but what is happening to you man? Think of what you may be turning into.
    Yeah Jim, you used to be cool. You were one of us. It was about the music, man. But now you've gone all corporate and you're brown-nosing for THE MAN. What about the dream, buddy? WHAT ABOUT THE MUSIC?!

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    Quote Originally posted by Fenris
    Quote Originally posted by What Exit?
    I just remind people, MC will probably be back shortly with his socks.
    As an aside, I suspect that whoever the poster was that was behind the MC sock was getting bored with MC's gimmick and wanted to be banned as an end to the "Misanthropic Contrarian Story Arc" (so to speak). He did almost exactly the same thing over at Giraffe--he dared us to ban him and hey, we did.

    I believe him when he says he has other identities and is contributing here and there. MC was getting stale and I'll bet the person behind him knew it.
    I think you're right, Fenris. I can't imagine anyone could keep up that schtick indefinitely.

    As far as socks are concerned, I think Fenris is also right that he's already contributing to the board elsewhere. Certainly, if he isn't now, he will be. Not sure why that matters, though, if it's the behavior we wanted to eliminate. If the behavior starts up again, just ban him again. Otherwise, who cares? It's not like we don't have trolls here as it is.

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    Quote Originally posted by Fenris
    Quote Originally posted by What Exit?
    I just remind people, MC will probably be back shortly with his socks.
    As an aside, I suspect that whoever the poster was that was behind the MC sock was getting bored with MC's gimmick and wanted to be banned as an end to the "Misanthropic Contrarian Story Arc" (so to speak). He did almost exactly the same thing over at Giraffe--he dared us to ban him and hey, we did.

    I believe him when he says he has other identities and is contributing here and there. MC was getting stale and I'll bet the person behind him knew it.
    Thank you for expressing my exact thoughts on MC. Well said as usual.
    Quote Originally posted by [i
    Fenris[/i]]Yeah Jim, you used to be cool. You were one of us. It was about the music, man. But now you've gone all corporate and you're brown-nosing for THE MAN. What about the dream, buddy? WHAT ABOUT THE MUSIC?!
    Oh man, you're right, let's get the band back together! ROAD TRIP!

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    Quote Originally posted by What Exit?
    Well I think we are suppose to do this in the Hive, but I will cast my vote and my lot for keeping MC banned at this point.
    That makes 4 votes at least for banning. CIAS, Sublight, myself and Winston of course. I think it was T&B that convinced me in the end. Thank you for the help.


    I just remind people, MC will probably be back shortly with his socks.
    Not that it matters at this point, but I am for keeping him banned. As Fenris said, he basically asked to be banned. Consider this a term of our agreement for this server. It's a hell of a lot cheaper than paying for it and any server we did pay for would probably have the same demand.
    So now they are just dirt-covered English people in fur pelts with credit cards.

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    Quote Originally posted by featherlou
    I have no problem with mods sock-hunting for banned member IPs.
    SDMB here we come!
    Or you can look at if from the perspective that McNutty volunteered a server he had when we were unable to continue on the server that we currently had, and as the server provider, he has risks and responsibilities that are different from those of regular posters, and that's just a fact of life.
    Ah, the old "but he has contributed so much to the board we should all be grateful to him" defense. Haven't heard that one in a while.

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    I can't imagine anyone could keep up that schtick indefinitely.
    Oh, I believe someone could.

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    Quote Originally posted by Truth and Beauty
    Ah, the old "but he has contributed so much to the board we should all be grateful to him" defense. Haven't heard that one in a while.
    You still haven't.

    What you're hearing is him (correctly) saying "It's my swimming pool. I'm not charging you to play in it, you can do pretty much whatever you want, but no pissing in it. If you want to piss in a pool, go find your own."

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    I am so sick of your bullying and stirring up drama, Truth and Beauty. In my experience, attacking people rarely makes them want to hear you out.

    Truth and Beauty wrote:
    Ah, the old "but he has contributed so much to the board we should all be grateful to him" defense. Haven't heard that one in a while.
    I don't think anyone is saying anything like this. But, if you don't like how this is going you could always set up and pay for a server. Then we can take a vote about moving Domebo to your server, where everyone would have to "kowtow" to you. Perhaps you would be more wise and benevolent. Probably plenty of members would like to get out from McNutty's oppressive regime, where he makes crazy demands like 'no child porn or threatening child porn on my server.'

    Viva la Revolucion!!!!

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    Same group, different subject. I honestly don't know why these same few people are constantly allowed to hold Reason hostage and prevent smooth operation of the board. "Oh Noes, they might not like us anymore!"

    Just ban the fucker already and be done with it.
    I reserve the right to be bothered by things that don't faze you,
    and to cheerfully ignore things that bug the shit out of you.
    I am not you.

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    Quote Originally posted by Chimera
    Same group, different subject. I honestly don't know why these same few people are constantly allowed to hold Reason hostage and prevent smooth operation of the board. "Oh Noes, they might not like us anymore!"

    Just ban the fucker already and be done with it.
    MC is banned for good at this point.

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    FWIW, I support the ban, for the same reasons as McNutty. I'm owner of the domain, and recognized operator of the site, and I don't want any association with child porn. I guess this may seem like a case of inventing a rule, but I don't think anybody even imagined this would be an issue. The Thunderdome rules explicitly state that certain activities are banned/whatever to limit criminal liability. It isn't too much of a stretch to extend this to threatening to post images that get paediatricians beaten to a pulp by gangs.

    Oh, and Winston Smith, please find a way of getting your point across politely.
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    Quote Originally posted by Truth and Beauty
    Quote Originally posted by featherlou
    I have no problem with mods sock-hunting for banned member IPs.
    SDMB here we come!
    Huge difference between sock-hunting for banned members when you've banned them for making snarky comments about other posters in the wrong forum, and sock-hunting for members we ban here. So far, itseems that banned members on the Dome are kiddy-porn posters and spammers.
    Which one of those should be given a second chance, now?

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    Quote Originally posted by Fenris
    What you're hearing is him (correctly) saying "It's my swimming pool. I'm not charging you to play in it, you can do pretty much whatever you want, but no pissing in it. If you want to piss in a pool, go find your own."
    Look, I'm sure McNutty is a fine fellow. But then many of the dope mods are fine fellows too.
    What I heard McNutty saying is "don't piss in my pool. And BTW I'm the one who'll tell you what pissing in the pool means. And I don't care if you think my definition is stupid - if you don't like it I'll deflate my pool and go home." It's his attitude that rankles.

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    Quote Originally posted by SugarPlum
    I am so sick of your bullying and stirring up drama, Truth and Beauty. In my experience, attacking people rarely makes them want to hear you out.
    Bullying? I think you're being a mite sensitive, my little SugarPlum. :wink:
    But, if you don't like how this is going you could always set up and pay for a server. Then we can take a vote about moving Domebo to your server, where everyone would have to "kowtow" to you.
    Not to brag, but I do have vast computing resources available to me, and I will gladly make them available to host the board upon request.
    Perhaps you would be more wise and benevolent.
    Perhaps.
    Probably plenty of members would like to get out from McNutty's oppressive regime, where he makes crazy demands like 'no child porn or threatening child porn on my server.'

    Viva la Revolucion!!!!
    I am not intending on staring a splinter board of a splinter board though. Starting a board is a lot of work and keeping the posters even more so. See my "board traffic comparison" thread for a discussion of the topic.

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    Quote Originally posted by Truth and Beauty
    Quote Originally posted by Fenris
    What you're hearing is him (correctly) saying "It's my swimming pool. I'm not charging you to play in it, you can do pretty much whatever you want, but no pissing in it. If you want to piss in a pool, go find your own."
    Look, I'm sure McNutty is a fine fellow. But then many of the dope mods are fine fellows too.
    What I heard McNutty saying is "don't piss in my pool. And BTW I'm the one who'll tell you what pissing in the pool means. And I don't care if you think my definition is stupid - if you don't like it I'll deflate my pool and go home." It's his attitude that rankles.
    This post was decolored by the decolorist.

    That said, it IS his pool, it IS his risk and if it were mine, I wouldn't care if you didn't like my definition was either. If you pooped in my pool and then said "But you said 'pissing'. This was poop!", I'd still throw you out.

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    Quote Originally posted by What Exit?
    MC is banned for good at this point.

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    Quote Originally posted by Boozahol Squid, P.I.
    Huge difference between sock-hunting for banned members when you've banned them for making snarky comments about other posters in the wrong forum, and sock-hunting for members we ban here.
    ah dun geddit - shorter words plz

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    Quote Originally posted by Fenris
    [That said, it IS his pool, it IS his risk and if it were mine, I wouldn't care if you didn't like my definition was either. If you pooped in my pool and then said "But you said 'pissing'. This was poop!", I'd still throw you out.
    Fenris, you are a master of stating the obvious. Congratulations! Yes, it's his pool, it's CRSP's board, blah-blah-blah. Are you just copying and pasting from the cuntlapper's posts in the SDMB? Or maybe you're doing one of those clever meta-irony things and I'm being whooshed.

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