Well, except that post counts at the SDMB haven't declined. Why is that? What are they doing right that we're doing wrong?Originally posted by Excalibur
Well, except that post counts at the SDMB haven't declined. Why is that? What are they doing right that we're doing wrong?Originally posted by Excalibur
The "post count" cannot diminish, damnit, unless somebody is running around deleting posts. Please stop making my eyes bleed. What you are discussing is the increase in post count, or the number of new posts. You can talk about the post count growing or stagnating, but it cannot logically decrease without actually deleting things off the board.
The Dope has remained pretty steady in activity, while we have declined. There's the chat room to consider, which has taken a lot of the nonsense silliness that would usually end up as post-count-padding, but I don't think that's entirely it. I've tried pulling in some friends of mine from off-board and one is a pathetic lurker (YES I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU) and the other drops in to post in the threads that interest her and then leaves.
Which is, in fact, what most people do. They come in, post to what interests them, and go.
At this moment, we have 3297 threads, which should be more than enough to tap into people's interests. As a comparison, Giraffe's board has 3126 threads. But, they have 97,482 posts and we have 80,012.
So what's our problem? We can't keep a fucking conversation going. If we suck at anything, it's in replying to people and keeping interest flowing and inviting responses.
So now they are just dirt-covered English people in fur pelts with credit cards.
He means me and Excalibur, and unsurprisingly lacks the balls to say so.Originally posted by Truth and Beauty
I would really love to see a cite for this. The only people I have ever fought with to any degree on this board are you, and Exy one night in chat. I don't have any problem citing the fracas I had with you (which you started) and letting other people judge who was trying to shut who down.attacking people who would like a different level of discourse on this board.
ETA: I forget, I also had a minor spat with QED which we both apologized for about an hour later.
everything in nature is sort of gross when you look at it too closely. what is an apple? basically the uterus of a tree - terrifel
Exactly. God forbid the mods try to tell someone to stop being a jerk. We were told we were being just like SD mods, even if the behavior in question was out of line.Originally posted by WhyNot
I also think chat has drained the board of actual posts. In addition, it's done nothing but cause problems since it was implemented.Get rid of chat.
Sorry, I know a lot of you don't want to hear it, and yes, I enjoyed a visit there the other night, but it's true. Chat has completely killed at least the Wut Wut (MMP), and I'm certain slowed a lot of other posts. And to those who say, "but you don't want the kind of posts we post in chat in real threads!" you're missing the point. We may not want those posts memorialized, but giving ourselves the time and place to chat serves as a distraction from making decent posts on the board.
I'm not good at the advice. Can I offer you a sarcastic comment instead?
Of what type?Originally posted by BiblioCat
everything in nature is sort of gross when you look at it too closely. what is an apple? basically the uterus of a tree - terrifel
This, exactly. Don't beat around the bush, Chimera. We all know it's Excalibur and Myrnalene.Originally posted by Chimera
Chat is ruled by a handful of posters who seem to think it's their own personal playground. Simple questions are met with silence or outright hostility. One poster, who was new to chat, asked if it was possible to turn off images in chat. The response? "Yeah, close the chat window and go away."
They dominate the conversation, ignore or mock those not in their little clique, flout the rules and play innocent when called on their behavior. They question every rule and guideline put in place.
They seem to revel in mocking others, claiming to just be having fun or that it's simple teasing.
I'm sure their behavior has driven away more posters than it's attracted.
The inmates are running the asylum, and the fact that it's been allowed to continue this long is appalling.
I'm not good at the advice. Can I offer you a sarcastic comment instead?
I'm a bit troubled by this "inmates running the asylum" point of view.
This is a message board, made up of a community of people. Some of these people, who are in no way different from the other posters, have been made moderators. Others are not moderators. I am not a "guard" and the posters are not "inmates." The posters are not the enemies of the mods. The posters are not the prisoners of the mods. We are all posters and some of us have been given the trust of the other posters to protect this community.
If the majority of the community does not want us to interfere in certain situations, then the community has spoken. If there is a great deal of frustration and hurt feelings over the actions of certain posters, however, I think the community should be up front about that. Name names and link to posts and if there truly is a problem, let's work things out.
So now they are just dirt-covered English people in fur pelts with credit cards.
I wasn't going to post, but I think the Mods are serving at the behest of the community and CRSP of course. I don't think the community has worked out to be quite what many thought it would be when it started.
I would like to see board grow and hopefully it will. It did only start in March. We have 80,000 posts and over 100,000 chat posts from 167 different members. It appears chat is working over all to the benefit of Domebo.
Funny how none of this came out before you made your monumental fuckup and had to step down as moderator. Your behavior was exposed in chat when I asked Jim why the name of the OP in the SockCheat thread had changed. With god as my witness, I though it was a board glitch. I was shocked that it wasn't. But your snooping was discovered in chat, and was discussed in chat (a bit gleefully, as you have done a fantastic job so far of trying to prove yourself morally superior to other people). I wonder what your opinion would be of chat if that had not happened.Originally posted by BiblioCat
I'm not gonna try to address your perception of Exy's behavoir, cause that's not my place. But I have made it a point to greet every person that comes into chat and to say goodbye when they leave. I often try to make converstaion with new chatters, asking them questions about themselves, etc. I do NOT meet questions with silence or hostility. I do not care who is or is not in my "clique". I'm not aware of any rules I have broken, so I have never played innocent. Your false insistence (yet again) that we want no rules proves that you were never listening to us and is part of the reason why you were such a shitty mod.
You remain a joke.
everything in nature is sort of gross when you look at it too closely. what is an apple? basically the uterus of a tree - terrifel
It astonishes me that you feel you have some legitimate business saying this.Originally posted by BiblioCat
Nice to know, by the way, that you apparently consider users your "inmates".
I will second what Myrna says about treatment of new chatters. My experience is the regulars are more than happy to see as many people as possible in chat, and greet everyone who shows up enthusiastically. I've seen people comment that the most fun to be had in chat are busy nights when there are a bunch of people in there, and the conversation is flying. It's also been used as a chance to invite people new to the board to stick around, which is what we all want and need.
I'm not claiming that every single person in chat is sweetness and light 100% of the time. People exhibit their own personalities, just as they do elsewhere on the board. But in my observation as a chatter, the implication that the chatters have a negative agenda is simply not true.
Additionally, I second what Caerie says about Mods not being wardens. Mods are representatives of the posting community at large, and if there seem to be differing philosophies about how the modding should go, that needs to be resolved, or this board is going to fall apart.
So one night, I'm trying to work with my writing partner. We do all our writing through Yahoo Instant Messenger, and thus we do all our communicating through chat, with sporadic phone calls. One day, I was dealing with my mom, I had a headache, and I wasn't actually *chatting* much, though I was writing and sending her things. At one point, in the evening, she says, out of the blue, "I'm done for the night. You can write as much on this section as you want." I said, "WHA?!" She said, "You've been short with me all day, so I'm done for the night." Now, I can be a bitch, and sometimes, I say things that I don't mean anything by but can be taken that way. So I read through the chat logs, then read the chat logs aloud to my husband and sister (they call me on my crap), and they both agreed that I did not say anything remotely insulting to her. When I said I disagreed that I had been "short" with her, she picked a huge fight with me that lasted for hours and made me so angry, I wanted to quit permanently.Originally posted by BiblioCat
The point of my story was that she intepreted long pauses (because I was dealing with offline stuff) to mean that I was ignoring her, or mad at her, or annoyed with her. And instead of asking if that was the case, or assuming that I wasn't right there to chat, she made accusastions and assumptions about my feelings. Which is a completely ridiculous thing to do in a chatting situation. And it wasn't fair to me, and it wasn't even fair to her.
I disagree with this assessment.They seem to revel in mocking others, claiming to just be having fun or that it's simple teasing.
And I'm sure that if I turn around fast enough, I'll see the unicorn that stalks me, stills my socks, and sucks down my diet coke when I'm not paying attention.I'm sure their behavior has driven away more posters than it's attracted.
I've seen you express this sentiment before, and quite frankly, I do not know where it comes from or why you think this is at all accurate or appropriate. I know you volunteered to be a mod at the very beginning, and so, from the start, you were set apart as a moderator. Is that where this is coming from? Or do you just dislike certain posters so strongly that you prefer they not have a voice in the process at all? These issues that you cite have nothing to do with chat. It's not as though members here wouldn't email/chat privately, even without the "shout box" at the bottom of the forum. Actually, what would drive me away from a board is an attitude like this. As though a board without the Iron Fist From On High is somehow out of control and less in value. The Internet, at its best, is like the wild west, and is democracy in action. People enjoy communities that have a free flow of ideas, even if the ideas are not always the most popular. Even if they're strident at times. We're stronger for it. If this board is to develop a true personality and direction of its own, then it's going to be because of strong voices making themselves heard. Not because everybody is too afraid to say "peep" because they're busy toeing the line.
The inmates are running the asylum, and the fact that it's been allowed to continue this long is appalling.
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Speaking as the "chat clique nuisance," I think how you see chat is more a reflection of yourself than how you are treated in chat. I go in, blab about stuff I'm interested in, have a scrap or two, post some monkey baby pictures, and call it a day. It really isn't much more than that.
When you look upon DoMeBo chat, as when you look upon the Mona Lisa, it is you, not she, who are being judged?Originally posted by featherlou
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Nothing. They're just much larger and thus generate much more content. This keeps folk's attention, resulting in more posters retained and more content generated. Large boards benefit enormously from inertia, small boards not as much :wink:.Originally posted by Truth and Beauty
There's nothing wrong with smaller boards, really. They're just inherently more fragile because a smaller number of major content-generators cutting back/drifting away can have an over-sized impact.
Jesus. Bitter much? The shot about inmates running the asylum is particularly funny in light of the fact that you, an incompetent busy-body, had mod powers until recently.Originally posted by BiblioCat
Exactly. Chat is our Mona Lisa smile.Originally posted by OneCentStamp
Do you have a hard time finding women's clothing that allows for the space you need for the GIGANTIC BALLS you must possess to be able to type that shit with a straight face?Originally posted by BiblioCat
You are a nasty, condescending, sanctimonious, hypocritical, sneaky, finger-pointing shrew. We can now add LIAR to your ever growing repertoire of bullshit, too. You claimed that when someone asked about turning off images in chat they were told to go away. You should remember this thread proving the contrary, you posted to it.
What do you do, sit reading the chat with one hand on a notepad and your other hand God-knows-where waiting for something to be said that you can feel superior about? New people come in and are welcomed all the time. They are encouraged to chat. Chat members have sent PMs to new members inviting them to chat. You are just a bitter person who sees cliques and offense any and everywhere you look. Instead of patrolling the board looking for things to be offended about and people to spy on, maybe if you participated in conversations without accusations and negativity you might find a different experience with your fellow board members. Now that your I-Spy shenanigans have removed you from your moderating duties, you'll have more time to just post and be an active member. Hopefully you'll try to do it with a more open mind and see that there are a lot of really good people around here who are getting to know one another and enjoying each other's company online.
She's not a liar, actually. I was the poster she was referring to, who asked if it was possible to turn images off in chat, and received the response (from a Chat Regular Who Shall Remain Nameless) "Yeah, close the window and walk away". And everyone else in chat at the time backed the Rude Chat Regular up. The dismissal was not intended to be a "Joke", and even after backpedalling and claiming it was, instead of apologising for making a joke that came across the wrong way, it turned into personal attacks on me for being "highly strung" or "Not getting Poster X's style", with added jibes of "don't you have any friends?" (of course I do, that's why I don't live in the chatroom of a struggling internet messageboard) because apparently I should be used to being given shit by people I don't know for asking a simple question.Originally posted by Sleeps w/Butterflies
And you guys wonder people aren't posting here and you aren't getting new members.
I'm inclined to agree with Biblio's assessment of Chat. There IS a Chat Clique that thinks they own Chat, they're not friendly people, and the fact that they're unhappy at being told they can't post explicit porn in chat (and again, not apologising for doing so when told it wasn't appropriate) tells you that they're not interested in anything except having it as their personal playground where they make the rules. If the members of the board here are fine with that, then great. But it's not the sort of messageboard I want to post to, which is why, generally, I don't. (Not that you care.)What do you do, sit reading the chat with one hand on a notepad and your other hand God-knows-where waiting for something to be said that you can feel superior about? New people come in and are welcomed all the time. They are encouraged to chat. Chat members have sent PMs to new members inviting them to chat. You are just a bitter person who sees cliques and offense any and everywhere you look. Instead of patrolling the board looking for things to be offended about and people to spy on, maybe if you participated in conversations without accusations and negativity you might find a different experience with your fellow board members. Now that your I-Spy shenanigans have removed you from your moderating duties, you'll have more time to just post and be an active member. Hopefully you'll try to do it with a more open mind and see that there are a lot of really good people around here who are getting to know one another and enjoying each other's company online.
But in this case I'm not going to stand by and led you call someone a liar when she clearly isn't. A polite person would, of course, apologise to BiblioCat for calling her a liar in this instance, but somehow I don't see that happening.
Double post, sorry.
everything in nature is sort of gross when you look at it too closely. what is an apple? basically the uterus of a tree - terrifel
Exy was the one who said that, and lots of people told him he was being a dick. That said, it clearly was a joke, and a response from you of "Ha! No, really is there a way?" would have resulted in nothing. I also remember trying to answer your question between your howls of outrage. You are misrepresenting what happened.She's not a liar, actually. I was the poster she was referring to, who asked if it was possible to turn images off in chat, and received the response (from a Chat Regular Who Shall Remain Nameless) "Yeah, close the window and walk away". And everyone else in chat at the time backed the Rude Chat Regular up. The dismissal was not intended to be a "Joke", and even after backpedalling and claiming it was, instead of apologising for making a joke that came across the wrong way, it turned into personal attacks on me for being "highly strung" or "Not getting Poster X's style", with added jibes of "don't you have any friends?" (of course I do, that's why I don't live in the chatroom of a struggling internet messageboard) because apparently I should be used to being given shit by people I don't know for asking a simple question.
We have all apologized mutiple times for the porn posting. Here is one example.Originally posted by Martini Enfield
A polite person would apologize for lying.
everything in nature is sort of gross when you look at it too closely. what is an apple? basically the uterus of a tree - terrifel
Uh, there were other people there you know. Who also saw what happened. I'm just saying; your spinning it this way will undoubtedly please Bibliocat but it probably won't impress others.Originally posted by Martini Enfield
I actually DID apologize, right afterwards, and acknowledged that I shouldn't have taken out my irritation on you. Although I guess I needn't have felt bad.and even after backpedalling and claiming it was, instead of apologising
You know, though, you're here an awful lot for a poster whose entire repertoire appears to be complaints about how much you hate this place and how bad a community it is.with added jibes of "don't you have any friends?" (of course I do, that's why I don't live in the chatroom of a struggling internet messageboard)
Yes. Well. We've seen just how good her judgment is, haven't we.I'm inclined to agree with Biblio's assessment of Chat.
You're whining about a group of people being unfriendly, but that was well after you established a history of only coming here to complain about Domebo. How much friendliness do you think you, in particular, expect? And why do you generalize from the fact that you didn't receive sufficiently warm treatment to assume that no one is treated well?There IS a Chat Clique that thinks they own Chat, they're not friendly people
I think everyone who was involved has apologized over and over and acknowledged that it was totally appropriate. I certainly have. This lie is one that can be very easily checked by looking all sorts of places around here (although the numerous apologies in chat are, of course, now lost to the ages.)and the fact that they're unhappy at being told they can't post explicit porn in chat (and again, not apologising for doing so when told it wasn't appropriate)
Bibliocat has built up quite a track record of lying very recently. I can see from this post you are joining her.But in this case I'm not going to stand by and led you call someone a liar when she clearly isn't. A polite person would, of course, apologise to BiblioCat for calling her a liar in this instance, but somehow I don't see that happening.
I post heavily in chat and fuck you. I am super friendly. Asshole. No one was unhappy at being told not to post porn. Asshole. And they apologized repeatedly. Asshole.Originally posted by Martini Enfield
By the way, I have no problem asking a moderator to pull the log of the night you came into chat, so sure am I of the correctness of my recollections of it. Shall we dance?
everything in nature is sort of gross when you look at it too closely. what is an apple? basically the uterus of a tree - terrifel
I didn't lie, I was mistaken. I'm sorry I missed the post where some members of the Chat Clique apologised for the porn and I apologise for the mistake in that regard. The rest of my earlier post stands. At any rate, this clearly isn't the sort of messageboard I want to be a part of (and clearly you don't want me here anyway), so I'll be on my way and you can enjoy your messageboard without me.
It clearly never was, given how much complaining you've been doing.
I was not around for night o'porn, but I went into chat the next day and said that I'm not really thrilled with the idea of having porn in chat. I got several apologies, including from Excalibur and pepper. No one is complaining about not being able to post porn all over the board willy-nilly...to the contrary, everyone involved who I have discussed it with has agreed with me.
Tempers ran high for a while over this incident, but it's not an ongoing problem.
The fact that you are using the term "Chat Clique" with a straight face says a lot about you, I think.
It does not matter in the slightest to me whether you go or stay, even if I did that would be no reason for you to actually leave. But I guess I won't have to worry about requesting those chat logs, huh?
everything in nature is sort of gross when you look at it too closely. what is an apple? basically the uterus of a tree - terrifel
It's weird to me, all this complaining that chat isn't friendly...I haven't found that to be the case, but even if seems to be for some people, why don't you just ignore it? Don't even scroll down; pretend it doesn't exist. If anything, it's keeping these folks you don't like from posting twice as much in the forums.
There is a certain amount of value in not naming names, and then having multiple people say "everyone knows it's...", because shows that it's not simply my opinion of the matter, but a more commonly held opinion that some would like to admit.Originally posted by BiblioCat
Nor do I have any problem with people looking at what words were used and by whom.Originally posted by Myrnalene
I reserve the right to be bothered by things that don't faze you,
and to cheerfully ignore things that bug the shit out of you.
I am not you.
Still waiting for a cite.Originally posted by Myrnalene
everything in nature is sort of gross when you look at it too closely. what is an apple? basically the uterus of a tree - terrifel
Please bookmark this anyone that does not what to see chat or take a chance or use this at work vs. home.
http://domebo.net/forum/IndexNoChat.php
I am still fixing it, but Chat is blocked already in this link. I will clean it up more.
So tell your friends, tell your enemies, tell anyone that remotely asks.
You are awesome, Jim. Seriously. I'm so happy one of my fever addled ideas was actually helpful.Originally posted by What Exit?
So now they are just dirt-covered English people in fur pelts with credit cards.
It was a brilliantly simple idea. I wasted hours looking for a good way to do it in the UCP and this was such a simple solution. So thank you.Originally posted by Caerie
Now I just want to clean it up a bit.
nouncement pls
Roll your eyes as far back in your little head as far as you want to Precious, I don't wonder anything about new members. The board is only a few months old and I think it's doing fine.Originally posted by Martini Enfield
How am I not surprised that you have a conveniently different view of the "chat incident" regarding you and Exy than everyone else does and only changed your tune when Myrna offered to have the chat logs pulled? So do I still (as a "polite" person) owe your pal Bibliocat an apology even though you were just being butthurt and unable to take a joke from ONE person who was kidding you while you ignored the people trying to help? Okay. ....
Bibliocat, you are NOT a liar about this situation. I was WRONG to say you were. I apologize for calling you a liar regarding this situation. Having said that, you are still a nasty, condescending, sanctimonious, hypocritical, sneaky, finger-pointing shrew.
You are 100% correct that I don't care a whit that this isn't the message board for you. Anyone who bitches that posts in a forum called "jibba jabba" are too silly isn't someone I am going to take seriously. In other news: water is wet. You're the type of person who would bitch that Chuck E Cheese has too many children running around.I'm inclined to agree with Biblio's assessment of Chat. There IS a Chat Clique that thinks they own Chat, they're not friendly people, and the fact that they're unhappy at being told they can't post explicit porn in chat (and again, not apologising for doing so when told it wasn't appropriate) tells you that they're not interested in anything except having it as their personal playground where they make the rules. If the members of the board here are fine with that, then great. But it's not the sort of messageboard I want to post to, which is why, generally, I don't. (Not that you care.)
Others have already addressed your misrepresentation of chat so I won't waste time addressing that other than to say that if you really and truly think that people in chat are up in arms because they can't post pornography then you are gullible as hell. It was JOKING around. Nobody in chat is twitching for their porn fix because the powers that be have snatched it away. Jesus Christmas, get a grip on reality!
So, in closing: stay if you want to stay, go if you want to go. It matters not to me. Really? QUITE RLY!
I think you guys are all yelling at and/or apologizing to the back end of Bibliocat, who seems to have left the building.
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What a bunch of whinging harpies biblio et al are.
Know what you all need? Three things. Patience, perseverance, and most importantly in this case perspective. Calm down dear, it's only a message board.
Listen, I enjoy a hair-pulling eye-scratching bitchfight as well as any other snarker, but could you cunts please keep it out of my thread whilst I try to discuss some ways of making the board more popular? Take it to another thead in the 'Dome or go to the snackpit if you have to. Thank you.
That may well be, but isn't it a cause for concern that over a period of two months the traffic of this board has dropped in half?Originally posted by Tamerlane
Well, when you say traffic you are looking at posts and threads. The rate of those has decreased, and chat likely has something to do with it. However, chat is still a legitimate function of this board, and if members are using it and enjoying themselves, that adds to the value of the board as well. Obviously some people have an issue with chat* but it likely does encourage longer individual board sessions and people hang out as gab, even if there is nothing in the forums to catch their interest.
*and only some of them are crazy bitches!
everything in nature is sort of gross when you look at it too closely. what is an apple? basically the uterus of a tree - terrifel
I realize you mean well, but I don't believe for a minute that she's not reading all of this. Not for a minute.Originally posted by OneCentStamp
It really gives me the red ass that chat is being characterized as this horrible place where mean people are just waiting to swoop in and shit on your day. Of course there are times when we're catty or bitchy, of course! There are times when people are catty and bitchy in threads including some of the people ::coughcoughPARENTSvsCHILDFREETHREADcoughcough:: who are bitching here.
What they refuse to admit is that most of time people in chat have been really kind to each other. There have been times when Quasi has shown up confused and upset and we all do our best to make him feel better and cared for. There have been times when somebody comes in and has had something really upset them offline and we all try to cheer them up. Since I'm an insomniac I've been on very late and chat has been empty and I've seen someone say something like "I had the most horrible day." or "I feel sick" or "I'm so depressed" or something like that and it never fails that someone else comes in to see what's wrong and if they can help.
People get support for their graduations, birthdays, house hunting, accomplishments. They get advice for cooking or rebuilding a computer or what is wrong with their dog. We show each other pics of our pets or people show their kids or we look at pics of HANDSTANDS!
Some people really do seem to get some kind of thrill in always looking for the bad or negative. If that's what you're snooping for, you'll find it. Every.single.time.
Kind of tangential here, but ... is it possible to be a full member of the domebo community without participating in chat at this point? I've avoided it like an addictive personality needs to avoid crack -- I can see myself spending WAAYyyy too much time there if I even start. Since I telecommute and don't have any externally-imposed discipline to keep me from goofing off, it could be quite a problem if I got into the habit.
So I have never participated, and I rarely even look to see what's going on there. (And when I do, it's really dull, no doubt on account of my time zone being different from most people's.
Anyway, I wonder if not engaging in chat relegates one to the outskirts of domebo ... how do others see this?
No, not at all. Chat is still tangential to this board. There are many posters who don't participate (heck, every now and then a poster turns up who still is not aware there is a chat or how to find it).Originally posted by CairoCarol
everything in nature is sort of gross when you look at it too closely. what is an apple? basically the uterus of a tree - terrifel
Chat is robust, but it is really not even half the active posters that pop in and out. I don't think there is an issue of not being a full member, it is more like about 30 members use chat a lot and another 30 use it occasionally and another 100 rarely.Originally posted by CairoCarol
It also changes quickly and will range from old movies, to songs, to talks on physics, to bitching, to commiseration and then somewhere else. Often all within half an hour.
I like my conversational tangents, but that's all a bit too hectic for me.
To sleep, perchance to experience amygdalocortical activation and prefrontal deactivation.
It can be, other times it is much slower. At this time it is mostly dead.Originally posted by ivan astikov
Those of you in the States are just getting up now, aren't you? Well, those of you on the east coast!
To sleep, perchance to experience amygdalocortical activation and prefrontal deactivation.
Well it is 8am here, so many are already at work. The West Coast is only at 5 am.Originally posted by ivan astikov
You may be right. In Biblio's position, I probably wouldn't be able to resist a look back either. And this all presupposes that his departure was permanent, which we don't know for sure.Originally posted by Sleeps w/Butterflies
I personally wouldn't say that. The few times I've dropped into chat, everyone was plenty friendly, but usually deeply embroiled in some conversation or running joke that was hard to follow without context. That's no crime.Originally posted by Sleeps w/Butterflies
What I will say is that chat seems to have turned this place from a growing message board, into a shrinking message board with a chat feature. Which, unfortunately, is not as much fun for me.
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