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    [quote=Vox Imperatoris]
    Quote Originally posted by "Boozahol Squid, P.I.":3syvnjdw
    Waiting on builds from two countries. Spring, 1902, will commence no later than 4pm, 3/23.
    I think builds need a one-day time limit. Two days max.[/quote:3syvnjdw]

    Might be a good idea for next year. Given that I didn't put this up until Friday, and there are some people without internet access on the weekend, I'm still going to give 72 hours.

    That being said, I've got build orders from six players. We should be good to go pretty soon.

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    I'll keep analyzing until someone tells me to shut up.

    My first reaction is "whoah". France and England are clearly hating each other already, with England trying to take Brest and France willingly giving up a second build to be certain to keep the ability to build in Brest.

    In the meantime, Germany takes the North Sea rather than keeping Denmark and getting a third build. Three builds does paint a bullseye on your forehead so maybe it's a calculated move, or maybe we're seeing a Franco-German attack on Britain. Either way, Germany's tongue must be honey. Neither France nor England even bothered with the Low Countries, letting the Hun run all over them.

    Italy played it cool with the Tyrolian army, bothering no-one and keeping it in play as a power factor. He took Tunisia quietly and has about a thousand options available to him.

    Austria-Hungary got his two builds and good for him. I don't know why he did the bounce-chain into Bulgaria, but it worked out.

    Turkey... stood still. He could have gone for Sevastopol, Romania or even Greece, but he took his one build and stuck with it. Deal with Russia? With Austria-Hungary? Unwillingness to appear hostile this early in the game?

    Russia moved without hindrance and got two builds. I'm sure he would have preferred not to have that army in Sevastopol right now while Turkey is jumping sideways with glee, but he has the option for a fleet in St Petersburg which gives him a strong position in Scandinavia against a seemingly weak England.

    I'm liking Germany and Austria-Hungary while England got off to a rocky start. I'll be watching the builds with great interest, as well as the further developments in the Atlantic and around the Black Sea.

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    Quote Originally posted by Harlequin
    Italy played it cool with the Tyrolian army, bothering no-one and keeping it in play as a power factor. He took Tunisia quietly and has about a thousand options available to him.

    Austria-Hungary got his two builds and good for him. I don't know why he did the bounce-chain into Bulgaria, but it worked out.

    Turkey... stood still. He could have gone for Sevastopol, Romania or even Greece, but he took his one build and stuck with it. Deal with Russia? With Austria-Hungary? Unwillingness to appear hostile this early in the game?

    Russia moved without hindrance and got two builds. I'm sure he would have preferred not to have that army in Sevastopol right now while Turkey is jumping sideways with glee, but he has the option for a fleet in St Petersburg which gives him a strong position in Scandinavia against a seemingly weak England.

    I'm liking Germany and Austria-Hungary while England got off to a rocky start. I'll be watching the builds with great interest, as well as the further developments in the Atlantic and around the Black Sea.
    All three of the northern countries have been keeping me in the loop of what they're thinking and doing, so I won't comment on what's happening up there.

    In the south, I think you failed to notice Russia's support of Austria's attack into Bulgaria. Obviously., Turkey felt it coming, and did a good job in holding onto Bulgaria. However, Turkey's move was a little overconservative, as he could have stopped Austria from gaining Greece by cutting the Rum support with the black sea, and bouncing Serbia with Con. Or, he could have supported an attack by Bul to Rum with Bla, and picked up a build there. Either way would have been preferable if he knows that he can't split apart Austria and Russia diplomatically. Turkey will need some supprot from somewhere, though, and Italy's hold in Trieste suggests that Italy may not be the answer. Austria and Italy might be setting up a Lepanto that would divide Turkey very nicely between AIR.

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    Just got the last Build Order in. I'm at work, so I don't have access to a map editor, but here's the builds, if you want to start planning before I get the map up:

    Austria:
    A Vienna
    A Budapest

    England:
    F London

    France:
    F Brest

    Germany:
    F Kiel
    A Munich

    Italy:
    F Naples

    Russia:
    A Warsaw
    F StP(nc)

    Turkey:
    A Ankara

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    Quote Originally posted by Boozahol Squid, P.I.
    In the south, I think you failed to notice Russia's support of Austria's attack into Bulgaria.
    I did. That changes things a bit, obviously.

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    Spring of 1902:
    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3567/337 ... 8a21_b.jpg

    Things look particularly dire for the two 'Wicked Witches' of England and Turkey as Italy's fleets will soon control the Eastern Mediterranean, and several foreign powers look to stick their fingers in the North Atlantic. The two lone independent nations of Denmark and Spain do not look like their autonomy is for long. Austrian forces mass in central Europe, ready to turn on the enemies of the Arch-Duke. The Kaiser's forces look to the West, but Russian mobilizations in Warsaw may spell trouble to his East. Can the Sultan undermine the Tsar's arrangements with the Dual-Monarchy and break out to the north? Why were the Skaggerak Straits unlabeled, and Norway marked as being owned by Russia, when the Prime Minister clearly holds sway in Oslo?

    Find out next time on: Diplomacy. 9:00 AM EDT, 3/24

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    Quote Originally posted by Boozahol Squid, P.I.
    The two lone independent nations of Denmark and Spain do not look like their autonomy is for long.
    It never is. Damn those imperialist pigdogs!

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    I'm not being imperialist.
    Tunisia has always been part of Italy, it just rebelled recently. I had to put down the rebellion.
    The rest of the independent nations are in need of protection. For example, my friend Austria is protecting Serbia and Greece from Turkish occupation.
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    And I'm helping my Western European friends out by saving them from their own barbarianism. After all, they don't even speak French! :shock: I'm giving them the chance to fulfill their potential, as subjects of the greatest nation in the world.

    You're welcome, bitches.
    Something tells me we haven't seen the last of foreshadowing.

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    You people have no spine.

    I'm being imperialist.

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    Waiting on two of ye. 13 hours.

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    Spring 1902:
    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3472/338 ... 9614_b.jpg

    Frogs:
    A Por > Spa: OK
    F Bre > Eng: OK
    F MAt SUPPORTS F Bre > Eng: OK
    A Pic HOLD:OK

    Krauts:
    F Kiel > Hel: OK
    F Nth > Lon: OK
    A Hol > Kiel: OK
    A Bel > Ruh: OK
    A Mun Hold: OK

    Papists:
    A Tun-NAf: OK
    F Ion-Tun: OK
    F Nap-TyS: OK
    A Tyr-Pie:OK

    Double Eagle:
    F GRE-AEG: OK
    A SER-GRE: OK
    A BUD-SER: OK
    A TRI H: OK
    A VIE H: OK

    Limeys:
    F Eng C Wal-Pic: Displaced
    F Lon-Yor: OK
    F Nwy-Nwg: OK
    A Wal-Pic: Convoy Failed

    Commies:
    StP NC moves to NWY: OK
    SWE supports StP NC into NWY: OK
    GoB moves to BAL: OK
    WAR holds: OK
    SEV moves to UKR:OK
    RUM moves to SEV:OK

    The Dreaded Turk:
    Ank moves to Arm: OK
    Com supports Bulg to hold:OK
    BS support Bulg to hold:OK
    Bulg holds.: OK

    England must retreat from the English Channel. He must either retreat to the Irish Sea or Belgium, or dIsband, his choice. He has until 9am EDT, 3/26 to decide. Should he not, the fleet will disband.

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    Just before anyone starts developing any kickarse strategies off the ^^ above map, it is worth noting that one of my Fleets is in the wrong spot. Boozy tells me it will be corrected on next update, so just keep it in mind for now.

    Peace out...

    ... the window, with the rest of the garbage. This is one war that France will win, dammit!
    Something tells me we haven't seen the last of foreshadowing.

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    Yeah. Allwalker's fleet in the Western Med apparently stopped off for extra snails and cheese in Brest. They're steaming back out to their correct location as we speak.

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    More unsolicited babbling from the weird guy in the corner.

    The Franco-Italian "understanding" looks to be crashing with the unilateral aggression from Italy. In an unconventional move, he gives up the Ionian Sea to move westward, and also occupies north Africa. I hope for his sake that he hasn't made the all too common mistake of believing you can move naf-spa. Even if he has, France has an unpleasant time ahead of him what with the formerly Tyrolian army threatening Marseilles and the Italian fleet moving in.

    On the other hand, France is making out like a bandit in the north. Germany and France are already tightening the noose around England's neck. England apparently realized he couldn't hold Norway and decided to give it up, but since neither Germany or England thought they could take the North Sea both have their fleets in suboptimal positions.

    It's a stew in the south. Turkey is shaping up to attack Russia, but Austria-Hungary is putting pressure on him. One wonders if Turkey's natural defensive capabilities will be enough, and also what Russia's armies in Ukraine and Warsaw will be up to.

    In short, it's looking bad for England and good for Germany. The rest of them are up in the air. Way up.

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    The British Prime Minister, not too surprised at the German and Russian betrayals, orders the fleet to retreat to Belgium. "We'll fight them on the beaches, we'll fight them on the streets, but we will never, never surrender! And if our island should fall, which I do not believe for a second, our grand overseas empire will carry on the struggle."
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    And by "grand overseas empire", you mean... Belgium?

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    Quote Originally posted by Harlequin
    And by "grand overseas empire", you mean... Belgium?
    I mean the part off the map where I conquer everybody with my huge army. Plus Belgium.
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    After the Retreats:
    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3629/338 ... b75d_b.jpg

    The once-proud English fleet, formerly the match for any two navies in the world, retreats to Oostende after being humiliated by a few French fishing boats with slingshots.

    72 hours from now will be 18:00, EDT, 3/27. Only 48 hours for builds following that.

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    There's two UKRs on the map. I guess the more easterly of the two is supposed to be SEV?
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    Quote Originally posted by TheFlame
    There's two UKRs on the map. I guess the more easterly of the two is supposed to be SEV?
    Yes, my apologies. I'll get that fixed for the next posting of the map.

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    I do not bite my thumb at you, but I bite my thumb.

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    Quote Originally posted by Boozahol Squid, P.I.
    Quote Originally posted by TheFlame
    There's two UKRs on the map. I guess the more easterly of the two is supposed to be SEV?
    Yes, my apologies. I'll get that fixed for the next posting of the map.
    While you’re at it, go ahead and fix the Eastern Mediterranean and Western Mediterranean. They’re swapped on the map.
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    Quote Originally posted by garygnu
    While you’re at it, go ahead and fix the Eastern Mediterranean and Western Mediterranean. They’re swapped on the map.


    I calculate the center of the world based on Hong Kong. East and West are so relative...

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    A little over 24 hours left, guys, and I've got no orders. Just sayin'...

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    Are you still working on the map, or do we have some non-movers?
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    Quote Originally posted by Vox Imperatoris
    Are you still working on the map, or do we have some non-movers?
    Hey, I still got a few hours to figure out how to perform an aerial assault on France.

    Editted or not. Sorry I misread 18:00 as 8:00 I think. Sending moves over now.

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    Waiting for hawkeyeop.

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    sent. apologies.

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    Updating map, yadda yadda.

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    Winter: 1902
    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3179/339 ... fa1a_b.jpg

    Retreats first of all... Germany can't retreat, and must destroy his London Fleet. England must choose between destroying his Belgian fleet or moving it to Holland.

    Russia:
    Norway holds: OK
    Sweeden moves to Denmark: Bounce
    Baltic Sea supports Sweeden into Denmark: OK
    War moves to Sil: OK
    Sevastopol holds
    Ukraine supports Sevastopol holding

    Italy:
    A Pie HOLD: OK
    F Tys-GoL: OK
    F Tun-WMe: Bounce
    A NAf HOLD: OK

    Germany:
    A Kiel > Den: Bounce
    A Mun > Ber: OK
    F Hel Support A Kiel > Den: OK
    A Ruh Support FA Pic > Bel: OK
    F Lon Hold: OK

    France:
    A Pic > Bel: OK
    F Eng SUPPORTS German F Lon HOLD: OK
    A Spa HOLD: OK
    F MAt > West Med: Bounce

    Austria
    A Ser - Bul: OK
    A Gre SUPPORTS A Ser - Bul: OK
    F Aeg - Con: Bounced
    A Tri - Tyr: OK
    A Vie HOLD: OK

    Turkey:
    Bul to Rum: OK
    BS sup Bul to Rum: OK
    Arm to Smy: OK
    Con to Bul: Bounced

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    (and just assuming that England isn't an idiot, the Winter of 1902 Map will look something like this
    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3659/339 ... a0dd_b.jpg

    Which, in a roundabout way, means Germany gives up an SC to Austria, and France steals a build from neutral Spain. The Danes preserve their neutrality fiercely.

    Austria: 1 Build
    England: 0 Builds
    France: 1 Build
    Germany: 0 Builds
    Italy: 0 Builds
    Russia: 0 Builds
    Turkey: 0 Builds

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    The British fleet "retreats" to Holland.

    London, England—
    The British Prime Minister announces that British has captured the first admiral of the German navy as the ships carrying the marines, retreating from the advancing Welsh army, were surrounded and sunk in the North Sea. He is to be held as a prisoner of war until the end of the hostilities, with all due humanitarian treatment. "I want to commend our loyal Britons in London, who were instrumental in keeping the Huns from maintaining control of the city. Although the population has suffered harsh retaliatory punishments for their resistance, the guerrilla campaign waged by our men and women has struck fear into the heart of every German officer."

    We also report that, in a stunning move, our fleet in Belgium sailed out of port, to the great lament of the Belgian people, and circled around to harry the French supply lines to London before landing in Holland and liberating it from the Kaiser's grasp. Says the Prime Minister, "Britons never, never, never shall be slaves!"
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    Um, France doesn't have an army in Burgundy. They should have two builds.
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    And what happened to the German army in Ruhr that supported the French attack on Belgium?

    ETA: I also just noticed that you didn't actually list my moves, either.
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    Quote Originally posted by Boozahol Squid, P.I.
    Which, in a roundabout way, means Germany gives up an SC to Austria, and France steals a build from neutral Spain. The Danes preserve their neutrality fiercely.
    :? Austria gained a supply centre this turn, but from Turkey, not Germany.
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    Quote Originally posted by Vox
    Um, France doesn't have an army in Burgundy. They should have two builds.
    What he said.
    Something tells me we haven't seen the last of foreshadowing.

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    Quote Originally posted by TheFlame
    Quote Originally posted by Boozahol Squid, P.I.
    Which, in a roundabout way, means Germany gives up an SC to Austria, and France steals a build from neutral Spain. The Danes preserve their neutrality fiercely.
    :? Austria gained a supply centre this turn, but from Turkey, not Germany.
    Austria gained a suply center from Turkey, who gained one from Russia, who gained one from England, who gained one from Germany.

    As for everything else, lemme look it over once again. I was trying to get things up as quickly as possible. I'll try to do better next time reviewing things before posting them.

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    England's moves were
    YOR S WAL-LON: OK
    Wal > LON: OK
    NWG > NTH: OK
    Bel > ENG: Cut ENG S LON

    The army that appears to be a French Army in Burgundy is actually a well concealed German army operating in the Ruhr. France has 2 builds. Germany has 1 destroy. Should Germany not input a destroy choice, I'll flip a coin between the Heligoland Bight Fleet and the Ruhr Army to destroy.

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    What are the deadlines for the builds and for the upcoming Spring '03 turn?
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    All build orders in. Will post corrected map soon.

    Austria: Fleet Trieste
    France: Fleet Mar, Army Par
    Germanh: Army Ruhr (Destroy)

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    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3660/339 ... bf53_b.jpg

    Can I even get the map right on a Winter Move?

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    Let's try to get Spring '03 moves in by 21:00, 3/31

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    Any more commentary from the sidelines?
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    Quote Originally posted by Vox Imperatoris
    Any more commentary from the sidelines?
    I'm shocked into silence, I'm afraid. Germany has taken a legendary U-turn. Now that I know I'm missed, I'll try to write something coherent a bit later.

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    Quote Originally posted by Harlequin
    Quote Originally posted by Vox Imperatoris
    Any more commentary from the sidelines?
    I'm shocked into silence, I'm afraid. Germany has taken a legendary U-turn. Now that I know I'm missed, I'll try to write something coherent a bit later.
    I for one enjoy any and all sideline chatter.

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    If Harlequin is reading, I too am looking forward to the commentary.
    I didn't make the world this way, it was like this when I got here

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    Me too
    Something tells me we haven't seen the last of foreshadowing.

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    Quote Originally posted by TheFlame
    If Harlequin is reading, I too am looking forward to the commentary.
    I am reading and I certainly appreciate all the appreciation. Here's what I have to offer this round.

    Germany, Germany, Germany. What happened to you? You went from enthusiastic upstart through burgeoning empire to smackdown in no time at all. One wonders how the formerly solid-looking alliance with France is doing. The Germans did support the French navy into Belgium instead of insisting that the land be left to the Kaiser, despite this resulting in Germany losing units. Meanwhile, the Russian war machine is thundering in from the East and if France decides that this is an opportune moment to abandon his brother in arms it looks like the days of sauerkraut are over. A comeback from that point, which can probably only be achieved through unlikely alliance with England, would be a thing to see and no mistake.

    The Englishman certainly has a tactical head on his shoulders. I wouldn't have bet my change on him retaining control of his home island this turn and certainly not on him keeping a fourth supply centre on the mainland. If the French and the Germans are willing and able to throw him out into the sea then out he goes, but Germany has other problems and France can't do it on its own.

    While we're on the subject of "other problems": France, say hello to Italy. That is some first-class aggression there. The Austrian must have talked his way right into Italy's silk panties, and hey, he might even have meant what he said. No matter which, Italy is leaving the Austro-Italian border unguarded to shove a grenade up the French trouser leg.

    Therefore, Austria's next move is going to be very interesting. Will he keep his (inferred by me) word to Italy and roll on south, or will he unsheath his extra large backstabbing knife? The latter would probably seal Italy's fate while the former might not seal France's but certainly stamp it, especially if Italy and England are talking. In the south, Austria is looking good. If I were a betting man (and I am), I'd bet that the Black Sea won't be under Turkish control much longer. Austria and Russia, currently the two biggest nations on the map, will descend on Turkey like a pack of starving hounds and divide her carcass between them. This will take time, as it always does with Turkey, but it's looking inevitable, especially as Austria and Russia are fully capable of completing that mission while sending half their forces on other errands around the continent. In Austria's case this might be a stab into Italy, or it might be an attack northwards to take advantage of Germany's weakened state.

    Russia's fate is intertwined with Austria's. They'll want to cooperate in the south, and Russia has designs of her own on the realm of the Kaiser. Will the red and white tanks ally in the north as well and rip Germany apart? If so, it may be time for the surviving nations to try and stop the pseudo-Juggernaut forming. You don't want to give these guys too much power too quickly.

    Turkey has some clever maneuvring - both physical and diplomatic - ahead of her if she wants to get out of this one in one piece. From where I'm sitting it's looking bad and I think the Sultan is going to be crushed between his two mighty neighbours.

    My conclusion is that things are looking good for Austria-Hungary and Russia and bad for Turkey and Germany, while England is the dark horse. But it's early days yet and worse scrapes have been gotten out of in our time.

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    Harlequin--I'm not sure I can keep playing. You've been following along, right? Can you fill in for me? (I'll PM you about my status with the others, if I'm allowed.)

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