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    Pork has very little muscle building material and contains excess of fat. This fat gets deposited in the vessels and can cause hypertension and heart attack. It is not surprising that over 50% of Americans suffer from hypertension


    Another dangerous helminthes is Taenia Tichurasis. A common misconception about pork is that if it is cooked well, these ova die. In a research project undertaken in America, it was found that out of twenty-four people suffering from

    Taenia tichurasis, twenty two had cooked the pork very well. This indicates that the ovas present in the pork do not die under normal cooking temperature.


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    The pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth. It lives and thrives on muck, faeces and dirt. It is the best scavenger that I know that God has produced. In the villages they dont have modern toilets and the villagers excrete in the open air. Very often excreta is cleared by pigs.


    [Say (O Muhammad), "I find not in that which has been inspired to me anything forbidden to be eaten by one who wishes to eat it, unless it be Maytah (a dead animal) or blood poured forth (by slaughtering or the like), or the flesh of swine (pork, etc.) for that surely is filth, or impious (unlawful) meat (of an animal) which is slaughtered as a sacrifice for others than Allah (or has been slaughtered for idols, etc., or on which Allah's Name has not been mentioned while slaughtering). But whosoever is forced by necessity without willful disobedience, nor transgressing due limits, (for him) certainly, your Lord is Oft*Forgiving, Most Merciful.] (Al-An`am: 145)


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    Quote Originally posted by eninn View post
    The pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth. It lives and thrives on muck, faeces and dirt. It is the best scavenger that I know that God has produced. In the villages they dont have modern toilets and the villagers excrete in the open air. Very often excreta is cleared by pigs.
    I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. Dung Beetles live and thrive in those environments. Badly kept pigs are forced to live in those environments. Best scavenger, I would suggest looking at vultures or hyenas or possibly goats which will eat anything and everything they can get at.

    A well kept pig is in a clean environment with room to roam free. Yes, they get muddy, but so do the other animals on a farm. They will be disease free and given a happy life before they are humanely killed and turned into one of the many foods we should be grateful to receive from them.

    In areas where pigs are badly kept, as you mention, eating them is not a good idea as given their relative closeness to man as opposed to other farm animals and they are more likely to carry diseases that can be passed on. But in those places where they are raised well, the reverse is true.
    In the land of the blind, the one-arm man is king.

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    dear brother



    Some may argue that in advanced countries like Australia, pigs are bred in very clean and hygienic conditions. Even in these hygienic conditions the pigs are kept together in sties. No matter how hard you try to keep them clean they are filthy by nature. They eat and enjoy their own as well as their neighbours excreta.




    The other non-Muslims and atheists will agree only if convinced through reason, logic and science. Eating of pork can cause no less than seventy different types of diseases. A person can have various Helminthes, like roundworm, pinworm, hookworm, etc. One of the most dangerous is Taenia Solium, which in a laymans terminology is called tapeworm. It harbours in the intestine and is very long. Its ova i.e. eggs, enter the blood stream and can reach almost all the organs of the body. If it enters the brain it can cause memory loss. If it enters the heart it can cause heart attack and if it enters the eye it can cause blindness. If it enters the liver it can cause liver damage. It can damage almost all the organs of the body.



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    Muslims do not eat pork

    Feel nauseous

    There is no difference between deep freezing and normal cooking.
    Result is the same

    This is the main reason for the prohibition of pork in the three monotheistic religions

    to see pork after placing cola
    See What's in your tummy O eat pork
    you will feel nauseous




    and pork are the sanctity of God in Islamic law,

    and spoke of that Prophet Muhammad 1400 years
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    DISEASES CAUSED BY PORK IN DETAIL

    The following lists show germs or parasites that are found in pork and some diseases caused by them. Many of these diseases are contagious while some are proven fatal. This proves that the more science advances the more Islam is shown correct as a religion of God.


    PARASITIC (Bloodsucking) DISEASES

    a) TRICHINELLA SPIRATIS ( Trichina worms )
    It is the most dangerous parasite to man ( Rheumatism and muscular pain). The infected persons shown no symptoms, recover very slowly some die, some reduced to permanent invalids. No one is immune from this disease and there is no cure.

    b) TAENIA SOLIUM ( Pork tape worm )
    The worm causes malnourishment of the person leading to anemia, diarrhea, extreme depression melancholia and digestive disturbances. Cysticercosis means that larva enter the blood stream then settle down in one or more of the vital organs of the body, for example: brain, liver, lungs or spinal cord. They grow and encapsulate, inducing pressure to thesystem around, resulting in dangerous diseases (diarrhea,digestive disorder, anemia, chronic invalidation).

    c) ROUND WORMS
    Examples: Ascaris, which may lead to digestive disturbances, appendicitis, obstructive jaundice.

    d) HOOK WORMS
    Examples:Ancylostomiasis, which may lead to anemia, oedema, heart failure or retarded growth ( mental and physical), tuberculosis,
    diarrhea and typhoid.

    e) SCHITOSOMA JAPONICUM
    Bleeding, anemia and other syndromes. If ova are settled in the brain or spinal cord, paralysis and death may occur.

    f) PARAGOMINES WESTERMAINI
    Infestation leading to bleeding of the lungs ( endenve haemoptysis )

    g) PACIOLEPSIS BUSKI
    Digestive disturbances leading to persistent diarrhea; generalized oedema.

    h) CLONORCHIS SINENSIS
    chlonorchiasis-obstructive jaundice, liver enlargement.

    i) METASTRONGYLUS APRI
    Causes bronchitis, abscess of the lungs.

    j) GIGANTHORINCHUS GIGAS
    Cause anemia and digestive disorders.

    k) BALATITIDIUM COLI
    Causes acute dysentery and general weakness.



    BACTERIAL DISEASES

    Tuberculosis Fusiformis necrofurus: causing foot-rot which is very difficult to heal.
    Salmonella Cholera suis: causing cholera Paratyphoid
    Bruceellosis: Acute, sub acute and chronic. It may lead to permanent disabilities.
    Swine Erysipelas: causing Erysipelas in man.

    VIRAL DISEASES

    Small pox: is was a source of infection to man.
    Japanese B-encepphalitis: It is the source of infection
    Influenza, foot mouth disease, gas tro-enteritis of the new born babies.


    PROTOZOAN DISEASES

    Toxo plasma goundii- It is a very dangerous diseases. A new born baby of an infected woman may die within few days or weeks after delivery. But if he survives he may develop blindness or deafness.In adult chronic exhaustive fever with enlarged liver and spleen may occur. Pneumonia, or celebro- spinal meninggitis which may lead to death or madness. The patient may become blind and deaf too.


    OTHER DISEASES

    Flesh of the pork is hard to digest and may lead to chronic digestive disturbances. Pimples, boils, cysts are common in pork eaters. These are some of the parasites and diseases found in pork and/ or the skin of pigs and certainly there are many more. There is still no means of killing these parasites, in the tissues, neither has anyone found a method of expelling them, even produced any specific treatment for the diseases.




    -FATS IN PIGS

    Pork contains more fats than other meats. Therefore, people who are loving of pork are more fat than others. Cholesterol is higher in their blood thus making them more flat to asthereosclerosis cardiovascular accidents and sudden death.





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    Hello brother!

    I have recently learned that mocha coffee beans are concentrated in the area of the world known long as Yemen, or "Yemen."

    I appreciate the detailed graph of pork-related maladies, but I have often found that my brothers who eat chicken sometimes seem to have yellowed skin and numerous complaints.

    I would welcome some discussion, as a matter of practical import, why it is that people who likely do not eat bacon seem to find it a cultural desideratum to pretend to be enthusiastic about this processed meat.

    Also, your thoughts about fad diets are most welcome. And the actor Anthony Quinn. And a great testament, *The Seven Pillars of Wisdom*, which I find to be a thoughtful and interesting collection of aphorisms. Do you not agree?

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    Thank you my dear brother

    I always say it is important healthy food

    You can get it from the health farm fresh

    Stay away from the frozen food

    The food also slaughtered the wrong way without the name of God

    This leads to a blood clot inside the carcass (chicken or lamb and so on)

    This is reflected negatively on health, such as yellowing of the face and so on



    http://www.muslimconsumergroup.com/products_list.html


    Virtually all food with a few exceptions is halal. Halal slaughter need not raise the price of beef or other meat. Any Muslim working in a slaughter house can perform the Zabiah. The Slaughter house need only state on their label it was slaughtered Zabiah (Halal) on the meat that was slaughtered by a Muslim.

    Non meat products the producer need only specify the product doesn't contain any meat or intoxicants. Honesty in labeling is all that is required for us to tell if a food is Halal. There are no recognized central Halal labelling centers. Although one can find books that identify what brands etc are Halal. Many located in print and online.


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    Jesus didn’t fornicate, and abstained from extramarital contact with women. Now, this issue extends to the least physical contact with the opposite sex. With the exception of performing religious rituals and helping those in need, Jesus never even touched a woman other than his mother. Strictly practicing Orthodox Jews maintain this practice to this day in observance of Old Testament law. Likewise, practicing Muslims don’t even shake hands between the sexes. Can Christian “hug your neighbor” and “kiss the bride” congregations make the same claim?

    The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. It feels no jealousy. And among people who consume pork, the practice of wife swapping and other forms of promiscuous behaviour is common



    Dear brother

    It's simple

    Try to eat raw meat like an animal (lion)

    Inside you will consists brutal behavior and predation

    So food such as pork


    Affect in your actions and deeds

    Therefore, God commands us to stay away

    And also know the wisdom of prohibition




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    Last edited by eninn; 23 Mar 2014 at 06:41 AM.

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    What's wrong about frozen foods? My man Goedel liked it, and so do I!

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    frozen foods
    I do not feel reassured about the quality of food in terms of slaughter and product quality

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    1. Pork prohibited in Qur’an
    The Qur’an prohibits the consumption of pork in no less than 4 different places.
    It is prohibited in 2:173, 5:3, 6:145 and 16:115.
    “Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine,
    and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah.”
    [Al-Qur’an 5:3]
    The above verses of the Holy Qur’an are sufficient to satisfy a Muslim as to why pork is forbidden.

    2. Pork prohibited in the Bible
    The Christian is likely to be convinced by his religious scriptures. The Bible
    prohibits the consumption of pork, in the book of Leviticus
    “And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth
    not the cud; he is unclean to you”.
    “Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch,
    they are unclean to you.” [Leviticus 11:7-8]
    Pork is also prohibited in the Bible in the book of Deuteronomy
    “And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud,
    it is unclean unto you.




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    Someone told me

    Such as HERE

    Persuasive dialogue concerning the reasons for not eating pork consistent with Leviticus, et al,. As to our Queen's last post concerning not hearing the issue of clean meats, all not prohibited including but not limited to lamb and clean fish are permissible. It is written

    KJV Luke 24
    41. And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
    42. And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
    43. And he took it, and did eat before them.

    I eat halal foods. Lucky I live in an are where it is abundant.

    Even Hala pizza!! pepperoni made with beef...Yum!!

    i think we should eat locust , honey , bread and fish
    yes

    5:3

    Prohibited to you are dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah , and [those animals] killed by strangling or by a violent blow or by a head-long fall or by the goring of horns, and those from which a wild animal has eaten, except what you [are able to] slaughter [before its death], and those which are sacrificed on stone altars, and [prohibited is] that you seek decision through divining arrows. That is grave disobedience. This day those who disbelieve have despaired of [defeating] your religion; so fear them not, but fear Me. This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion. But whoever is forced by severe hunger with no inclination to sin - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

    7:157

    Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the Torah and the Gospel, who enjoins upon them what is right and forbids them what is wrong and makes lawful for them the good things and prohibits for them the evil and relieves them of their burden and the shackles which were upon them. So they who have believed in him, honored him, supported him and followed the light which was sent down with him - it is those who will be the successful.


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    I don't know what you're talking about.

    Apparently, you don't dig on swine. I, as a person of European heritage, am entirely devoted to the animal as a source of sustenance and a cultural touchstone.

    But who are these people who are questioning your choices? I do not recognize those who would question your observance of avoiding the pig as fellows in any community of reasonable, emotionally-correct people.

    Carry on, brother!

    But I do care about frozen foods -- I'm sure that technology has contributed in some way to starting to end worldwide hunger. Just because a bunch of Dan Akroyd clones only employ it to shovel some frozen peas or Lean Cuisines into their gaping maws buckets at a time does not mean the technology doesn't represent a way forward.

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    not at all dear brother

    technology is very important to all

    some frozen peas

    we do this in the home

    Humans generally tends to stuff secured without the other

    Not only in the food but also electrical appliances, Household and so on

    thank you

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    Ibn `Umar relates that Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) said: “Made lawful for you are the flesh of two dead animals and two types of blood. As for the two dead animals, they are the locust and the fish. And as for the two types of blood, they are the blood of the spleen and the liver.”

    This hadîth is related in Musnad Ahmad, Sunan Ibn Mâjah, Sunan al-Dâraqutnî, and Sunan al-Bayhaqî, among other books.


    The meaning of the hadîth:

    The hadîth declares that these things were “made lawful”, meaning they were made lawful by Allah for Muslims to eat, since it is only Allah who makes things lawful and unlawful. It can be assumed that this hadîth was mentioned after the verse was revealed in which Allah says: “Forbidden to you are carrion, blood, and the flesh of swine.” [Sûrah al-Mâ’idah: 3]


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    TL;DR

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    came on CNN this comment: " Shell deadly virus all aspects of life in the capital , Mexico City , where the closed educational institutions in anticipation of the spread of the virus , and the prohibition of " National Security Council health " gatherings and public participation in all football matches " .. Look Beloved how the virus does not see broadcasts terror in the hearts of millions ! Do not you see me , dear reader, the power of God manifested in the weaker creatures ? !

    when people walked away from this divine teachings began diseases kill them , began as a result of global warming, extravagances of civilization , and began to pollution kills organisms on land and sea , and began to natural disasters , hurricanes, earthquakes and tsunami hit everywhere ...

    Noticed me that such diseases always start in the countries of pornography , and the State of Mexico is characterized by long beaches and resorts where it is practiced all kinds of outrageous , in addition to eating pork greedily ! And assure that all of the moves away from the teachings of God must be infected with the deadly disease , and this is what we see and we will see more if they did not repent to God


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    What about "long pig"?

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    Jesus Christ , peace be upon him

    Did not eat pork never in his life








    The meaning of this speech is very dangerous
    This confirms Christians away for the actions and words of Jesus Christ, peace be upon him

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    1) A pig is a real garbage gut. It will eat anything including urine, excrement, dirt, decaying animal flesh, maggots, or decaying vegetables. They will even eat the cancerous growths off other pigs or animals.

    2) The meat and fat of a pig absorbs toxins like a sponge. Their meat can be 30 times more toxic than beef .

    3) When eating beef or venison, it takes 8 to 9 hours to digest the meat so what little toxins are in the meat are slowly put into our system and can be filtered by the liver. But when pork is eaten, it takes only 4 hours to digest the meat. We thus get a much higher level of toxins within a shorter time.

    4) Unlike other mammals, a pig does not sweat or perspire. Perspiration is a means by which toxins are removed from the body. Since a pig does not sweat, the toxins remain within its body and in the meat.

    5) Pigs and swine are so poisonous that you can hardly kill them with strychnine or other poisons.





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    I cooked and ate some chorizo i forgot about in my fridge. It said "sell by 12/10" (assuming it was last year -- pretty sure).

    It kind of had some slime on the surface, but it was pretty good.

    Wild pigs are very dangerous.

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    Goddammit this is not the place for Simpson's nerd humor.

    Engage and also don't not be engaging.

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    yes dear brother

    ) Farmers will often pen up pigs within a rattlesnake nest because the pigs will eat the snakes, and if bitten they will not be harmed by the venom.

    ) When a pig is butchered, worms and insects take to its flesh sooner and faster than to other animal's flesh. In a few days the swine flesh is full of worms.

    ) Swine and pigs have over a dozen parasites within them, such as tapeworms, flukes, worms, and trichinae. There is no safe temperature at which pork can be cooked to ensure that all these parasites, their cysts,and eggs will be killed.


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    Someone told me

    Consider the actual statistics, the idea behind the teaching, and what eninn actually seems to be trying to warn against.

    His real premise is that the long term effect of a poor diet is bad health and high blood pressure, correct?



    Try actually following the CDC (Center for Disease Control) stats long term.


    What is happening as people keep to their unhealthy diets over the course of years and decades, something sensible, lifelong daily religious practice should theoretically correct?
    .. Age..........Men (%)..........Women (%)
    20-34..........11.1................6.8
    35-44..........25.1................19.0
    45-54..........37.1................35.2
    55-64..........54.0................53.3
    65-74..........64.0................69.3
    75-xx..........66.7................78.5
    All-yy..........34.1................32.7
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    http://www.cdc.gov/bloodpressure/facts.htm



    Looks an awful lot like the 50% eninn claimed in his original post, doesn't it?

    In fact, as the ages go up, those numbers start to trend closer to 2/3rds or even 3/4ths of the population.


    50% actually starts to look conservative once you get high enough ...


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    Thank You Brother eninn


    I was in Missouri visiting a brother who is Muslim. we spent the day starting with him praying, then we went to a Muslim bakery, and had breakfast. I bought some deserts and some pies. From there we went to a Muslim market. He bought some ground lamb, and some beef and we had a barbeque in his back yard. We ate like kings... and the lamb burgers were excellent. It was my first time trying one. It was better than any beef burger I have ever had.


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    Someone told me
    Pork is the shit.. if you work out you wont' have to worry about the fat in it..

    eninn has convinced me, I'm going to stop eating pork in all its forms.

    Pork = meat of the satan
    Enjoy the parasites, herpes, cancer, flu, near vision, gay-butt-sex, atheism and AIDS that all come from eating pork, pal!

    You were warned..


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    ) Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains 8.5 grams of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib has 11.1 grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat.

    ) Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus takes over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be purified of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 hours to digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh.


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    ) Pig meat has twice as much fat as beef. A 3 oz T bone steak contains 8.5 grams of fat; a 3 oz pork chop contains 18 grams of fat. A 3 oz beef rib has 11.1 grams of fat; a 3 oz pork spare rib has 23.2 grams of fat.

    ) Cows have a complex digestive system, having four stomachs. It thus takes over 24 hours to digest their vegetarian diet causing its food to be purified of toxins. In contrast, the swine's one stomach takes only about 4 hours to digest its foul diet, turning its toxic food into flesh.


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    Lamb is excellent - probably average lamb once a week. Kangaroo burgers and meat in general is also excellent
    There's a mexican place around here (R&R Taquiera) that has the best lamb tacos.
    it's just staggering. Islam prohibited us from eating pork so many hundreds of years ago and only now is science/man catching up and showing it's harmful for us.

    same with halal slaugher and blood retention etc.]

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    Popular fast-food chain Subway has decided to remove ham and bacon from the menus of nearly 200 of its locations in the United Kingdom and Ireland, replacing it with halal meat, according to the Daily Mail.

    An “all meats are halal” sign now appears at Subway locations where these changes have been adopted, with turkey ham serving as a replacement, the Daily Mail reported.

    Muslims cannot eat pork or consume any non-halal meat — meat that is not slaughtered and prepared in accordance with Islamic law.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014...slamic-demand/


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    ) The swine carries about 30 diseases which can be easily passed to humans. This is why God commanded that we are not even to touch their carcase (Leviticus 11:8).

    ) The trichinae worm of the swine is microscopically small, and once ingested can lodge itself in our intestines, muscles, spinal cord or the brain. This results in the disease trichinosis. The symptoms are sometimes lacking, but when present they are mistaken for other diseases, such as typhoid, arthritis, rheumatism, gastritis, MS, meningitis, gall bladder trouble, or acute alcoholism.

    ) The pig is so poisonous and filthy, that nature had to prepare him a sewer line or canal running down each leg with an outlet in the bottom of the foot. Out of this hole oozes pus and filth his body cannot pass into its system fast enough. Some of this pus gets into the meat of the pig.





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    Some one told me
    the reason it's considered to be an "unclean food" is because pigs have NO SWEAT GLANDS

    which is how all the bodily TOXINS are released

    hence with pork it all stays in the meat for the duration of their lives and it has accumulated all the while therein from birth


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    (Most scientific conversation) sent by British Minister
    Bob : Tell me why is it that a Muslim is very particular about the words Halaal and Haraam; what do they mean?

    BM: That which is permissible is termed Halaal and that which is not permissible is termed Haraam and it is the Quran which draws the distinction between the two.

    Bob: Can you give me an example?

    BM: Yes, Islam has prohibited blood of any type. You will agree that a chemical analysis of blood shows that it contains an abundance of uric acid, a chemical substance which can be injurious to human health.

    Bob: You're right about the toxic nature of uric acid, in the human
    being it is excreted as a waste product and in fact we are told that 98% of the body's uric acid is extracted from the blood by the kidneys and removed through urination.

    BM: Now I think that you'll appreciate the special prescribed method of animal slaughter in Islam.

    Bob: What do you mean?

    BM: You see, the wielder of the knife, whilst taking the name
    of the 'Almighty', makes an incision through the jugular veins, leaving all other veins and organs intact.

    Bob : I see, this causes the death of the animal by a total loss of blood from the body, rather than an injury to any vital organ.

    BM: Yes, were the organs, example the heart, the liver, or the brain crippled or damaged, the animal could die immediately and its blood would congeal in its veins and would eventually permeate the flesh. This implies that the animal flesh would be permeated and contaminated with uric acid and therefore very poisonous; only today did our dieticians realize such a thing.

    Bob: Again, while on the topic of food; Why do Muslims condemn the eating of pork or ham or any foods related to pigs or swine

    BM: Actually, apart from the Quran prohibiting the consumption of
    pork, bacon (pig flesh); in fact the Bible too in Leviticus Chapter 11: Verse 8, regarding swine it says, 'of their flesh (of the swine, another name for pig) shall you not eat, and of their carcass you shall not touch; they are unclean to you.' Further, did you know that a pig cannot be slaughtered at the neck for it does not have a neck; that is according to its natural anatomy. A Muslim reasons that if the pig was to be slaughtered and fit for human consumption the Creator would have provided it with a neck. Nonetheless, all that aside, I am sure you are well informed about the harmful effects of the consumption of pork, in any form, be it pork chops, ham, bacon.

    Bob: The medical science finds that there is a risk for various diseases the pig is found to be a host for many parasites and potential diseases.

    BM: Yes, even apart from that, as we talked about uric acid content in the blood, it is >>important to note that the pig 's biochemistry excretes only 2% of its total uric acid content, the remaining 98% remains as an integral part of the body. Plus as everyone knows that swine (pig) eats its own excretion, which means that of all the uric acid and the other waste products excreted, most of it goes back inside again


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    Pork got a bad name early-on, even in the Bible, because under-cooked pork is very dangerous, and swine have long been considered to be unclean animals. Pigs which are raised in modern facilities often have their fat-content increased. I definitely wouldn't say it's the best of meats,
    I find it interesting that muslim prohibit pork,

    Me? Good thing
    None.

    I don't eat pork.
    I dont eat pork because i think pigs are filthy animal. I love chicken. Yum2!
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    You may not no this, but BM in Angland means also has healthy movements in toilet, twice, ever morning, that are also being bad in because English are considered to be unclean, filthy creatures.

    That part is true.

    I do, however, often wonder why american US take so much the pains to (a) pronounce foreign words more correctly than is typical for the average European (English are the worst at respecting foreign pronunciations, then French, then Italy, and I guess the German-lands are about as correct as the Americans, which is pretty good) and (b) tolerate muslim women with their ridiculous oriental costumes and not make them take them off, like they do in civilized country like France.

    It is my feeling that it all comes down to an insecurity about not having a culture of one's own, so by "respect" (yo) they can ignore the fact that we have an incongruity here. For example: many times, some insular, clannish women wrapped in some tribal head-crap fail to get out of my way despite them blocking the entrance to my ingress. Do they not know that they are (a) expected to behave correctly in public (b) their culture, which they ridiculously display despite all norms of correct behavior, prohibits being an uppity little piece of crap and (c) if you don't like it in the West, go away?

    My best guess is that they think it's fun to be allowed to travel and be allowed their little cultural totems and they get some thrill out of being "bad" by not behaving like correct people.

    Personal opinion? Conform or die. That is the correct, European view, and I believe it is the view which should be adopted, at a personal level, by citizens of the united states.

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    dear brother
    This is not the case

    but

    This is the function of the prophets, peace be upon them

    To guide people from darkness to light

    Not in the food and drink only

    But in all aspects of life

    I and many like me all over the world continue in conveying the message to the people

    Everyone is free to choose


    Allah says in the Holy Qur'an
    115. "Did you think that We had created you in play (without any purpose), and that you would not be brought back to Us?"

    116. So Exalted be Allah, the True King, La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He), the Lord of the Supreme Throne!

    117. And whoever invokes (or worships), besides Allah, any other ilah (god), of whom he has no proof, then his reckoning is only with his Lord. Surely! Al-Kafirun (the disbelievers in Allah and in the Oneness of Allah, polytheists, pagans, idolaters, etc.) Will not be successful.

    118. And say (O Muhammad): "My Lord! Forgive and have mercy, for You are the Best of those who show mercy!"
    The only solution to all
    The Oneness of God
    And follow the path of the prophets and messengers

    Because it is the right way

    This is the goal of human existence on earth

    And finally
    Everyone will die
    Must be good and do good deeds in this world

    You are responsible for the all your actions
    allah will ask you about all what you did
    Both small and large
    Must be prepared

    Allah says in the Holy Qur'an
    (12) Indeed, it is We who bring the dead to life and record what they have put forth and what they left behind, and all things We have enumerated in a clear register


    (13) And [for] every person We have imposed his fate upon his neck, and We will produce for him on the Day of Resurrection a record which he will encounter spread open

    (49) And the record [of deeds] will be placed [open], and you will see the criminals fearful of that within it, and they will say, "Oh, woe to us! What is this book that leaves nothing small or great except that it has enumerated it? "And they will find what they did present [before them]. And your Lord does injustice to no one

    This is happening now

    In the path of the devil
    And get away through the teachings of the prophets and messengers

    Allah says in the Holy Qur'an

    27. O Children of Adam! Let not Shaitan (Satan) deceive you, as he got your parents [Adam and Hawwa (Eve)] out of Paradise, stripping them of their raiments, to show them their private parts. Verily, he and Qabiluhu (his soldiers from the jinns or his tribe) see you from where you cannot see them. Verily, We made the Shayatin (devils) Auliya' (protectors and helpers) for those who believe not.
    Surah Al-A'raf

    so

    Imagine with me

    Moses or Jesus peace be upon them

    Speaking here at the site instead of me I

    what Is your answer obedience or disobedience????


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    Allah sent the prophets as a mercy to the slaves and supported them with miracles to indicate the truthfulness of their message. Of all the prophets, our Prophet, Muhammad, was blessed with the most miracles. Al-Isra' and al-Mi^raj are among the many miracles of Prophet Muhammad.
    The miracle of al-Isra' is confirmed in the Qur'an. In Surat al-Isra', Ayah 1, Allah said:

    which means: [Praise be to Allah Who enabled His slave, Muhammad, to make the journey at night from Masjid al-Haram in Makkah to Masjid al-Aqsa in Jerusalem, which is surrounded a blessed land.] This journey is also confirmed in the sahih hadith. As such, there is scholarly consensus (ijma^) Prophet Muhammad journeyed in body and soul the night of al-Isra' from Masjid al-Haram in Makkah to Masjid al-Aqsain Jerusalem. Moreover, these scholars indicated the person who denies al-Isra' is a blasphemer for belying the explicit text of the Qur'an.

    Before the Prophet took this night journey, the ceiling of the house in which he was staying was opened, and Jibril descended. He cut open the chest of Prophet Muhammad and washed that open area with Zamzam water. Then he emptied something from a container into the chest of the Prophet to increase his wisdom as well as the strength of his belief. This was done to prepare the Messenger of Allah for that which he had yet to see in the upper world from among the wonders of the creation of Allah.


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    By the way, just observation also, everytime my wife eat pork, cya faint and appear in his body that we do not know why. the wives avoiding eating pork.

    There are so many animals / creatures that aren't moving fit for human consumption (and by the way it is God who pronounced it "unclean"





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    ) According to Jewish law, pork is one of a number of foods forbidden from consumption by Jews. These foods are known as "non-kosher" foods. In order for a meat to be kosher, it must first come from a kosher animal. A kosher animal must be a ruminant and have split hooves - therefore cows, sheep, goats and deer are all kosher, whereas pigs (having only one sign of kashrut) are not kosher.

    ) Qur'an, Holy book of Muslims also prohibits consumption of pork.

    "He has made unlawful for you that which dies of itself and blood and the flesh of swine and that on which the name of any other than Allah has been invoked. But he who is driven by necessity, being neither disobedient nor exceeding the limit, then surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful." Quran 2:173 -


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    And by the way in Genesis 9:1-3 (old testament)

    Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the earth. The fear and dread of you will fall upon all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air, upon every creature that moves along the ground, and upon all the fish of the sea; they are given into your hands. Everything that lives and moves will be food for you.


    ...but before Genesis 9, was Genesis 7 which reads...

    Genesis 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee (in the ark) seven and seven (7 pairs), the male and his female; and of the beasts that are not clean two, the male and his female (1 pair only): 3 of the birds also of the heavens, seven and seven, male and female, to keep seed alive upon the face of all the earth.

    ...Logic says that if it is God's intention, and Noah didn't eat ANY and ALL creatures (which includes pigs, snakes, lizards, cockroach, insects - all of which are considered not clean, and yet they "lives and moves"), then these "unclean" creatures are non-existent now because it's only 1 pair - which purpose is to "keep the seed alive"!






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    revolato...nice thread...a question...do you eat lion?

    snow_flakes,thank you


    No dear brother

    I do not eat lion meat

    Predators,, prey,,and claws haram in Islam

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    15 of shaban


    First to know is that the prophet prayed towards Al-Aqsa mosque before Hijrah, and after it, he prayed towards it for about seventeen months until Rajab of the second year (according to Ibn Abbas), when Allah ordered him to pray towards Kaabah.

    Did the Prophet pray towards Al-Aqsa at the order of Allah or at his own decision?

    The majority of scholars agreed that it was at the order of Allah, the following ayah is an evidence:




    And thus we have made you a just community that you will be witnesses over the people and the Messenger will be a witness over you. And We did not make the qiblah which you used to face except that We might make evident who would follow the Messenger from who would turn back on his heels. And indeed, it is difficult except for those whom Allah has guided. And never would Allah have caused you to lose your faith. Indeed Allah is, to the people, Kind and Merciful.

    Surat Al-Baqarah:143.

    In this verse Allah says that he made the old qiblah (Al-Aqsa) for a reason (rest of the ayah), so this is an evidence that Allah is who chose Al-Aqsa as the first Qibla.

    However, other scholars (the minority) say that he prayed towards it at his own decision, they say that although he did so, Allah wouldn't let him do that if he was wrong. Others say that he is preserved from mistaking.

    However, even if it was at his own decision (although it wasn't), he used to pray towards Al-Aqsa through Kaabah. For after Hijrah, he probably chose it based on this ayah:




    And to Allah belongs the east and the west. So wherever you [might] turn, there is the Face of Allah . Indeed, Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.

    Surat Al-Baqarah:115.






    The place of the Dome of the Rock is told to be the place from which the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) ascended to heaven at the night of Israa and Miraj, hence its importance.


    The First Qibla of Islam was toward Bitul-Maqdis, which is now in Jerusalem. Muslims used to pray Salat towards this Qibla, until this Ayat is revealed:

    We have certainly seen the turning of your face, [O Muhammad], toward the heaven, and We will surely turn you to a qiblah with which you will be pleased. So turn your face toward al-Masjid al-Haram. And wherever you [believers] are, turn your faces toward it [in prayer]. Indeed, those who have been given the Scripture well know that it is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do 1

    This hadith From Anas (R.A) which is recorded in Sahih Muslim is saying this:

    Anas reported: The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) used to pray towards Bait-ul-Maqdis, that it was revealed (to him):" Indeed We see the turning of the face to heaven, wherefore We shall assuredly cause thee to turn towards Qibla which shall please thee. So turn thy face towards the sacred Mosque (Ka'ba)" (ii. 144). A person from Banu Salama was going; (he found the people) in ruk'u (while) praying the dawn prayer and they had said one rak'ah. He said in a loud voice: Listen! the Qibla has been changed and they turned towards (the new) Qibla (Ka'ba) in that very state.



    Before the Quran came from Allah the Bible (new & old testament) came from Allah . According to the old testament people were required to pray towards Jerusalem.

    The origin of this is based in the Bible as below...

    "If thy people go out to battle against their enemy, whithersoever thou shalt send them, and shall pray unto the LORD toward the city ( Jerusalem ) which thou hast chosen, and toward the house ( Baitul Makdas ) that I have built for thy name" [ 1 Kings 8:44 ]

    So Mulsims were following that direction because that was the last known direction of prayer given by Allah until He changed it in the Quran towards Mecca based on the verse below...

    "From whencesoever Thou startest forth, turn Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque; that is indeed the truth from the Lord. And Allah is not unmindful of what ye do." [Quran 2:149]





    Allah's Apostle prayed facing Baitul-Maqdis for sixteen or seventeen months but he loved to face the Ka'ba (at Mecca) so Allah revealed: "Verily, We have seen the turning of your face to the heaven!" (2:144) So the Prophet faced the Ka'ba and the fools amongst the people namely "the Jews" said, "What has turned them from their Qibla (Bait-ul-Maqdis) which they formerly observed"" (Allah revealed): "Say: 'To Allah belongs the East and the West. He guides whom he will to a straight path'." (2:142) A man prayed with the Prophet (facing the Ka'ba) and went out. He saw some of the Ansar praying the 'Asr prayer with their faces towards Bait-ul-Maqdis, he said, "I bear witness that I prayed with Allah's Apostle facing the Ka'ba." So all the people turned their faces towards the Ka'ba.

    Note that it says for 16 or 17 months (not 13 years or so when Islam was propagated). This was the second year of the prophet in Madina (2nd Hiji). This would mean the Masj-al-Aqsa qibla was specifically made Qibla in Madina after the prophet migrated..






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    Pork must be recognized as a primary factor contributing to disease!

    The poisonous substances contained in pork, called sutoxins, cause most of the illnesses which are chronic and ‘difficult to treat. According to Reckeweg’s homotoxicology, these specific stress substances are found to be intercellular, that is,]

    1) as cholesterol-loaded macromolecules in the blood in cases of hypertonia, arteriosclerosis. plethora and in the walls of the cancer cells (so-called neoplasma phases);

    2) as histamine and as imidazole bodies in cases of urticaria, herpes, dermatitis, eczema (causing itching), initiating inflammatory processes with furuncles, carbuncles, fluor albus, appendicitis, cholangitis, cholecystitiS, thrombophlebitiS and phlegmonS;

    3) as growth hormone in promoting inflammatory and growth tendencies in cases of adipositas, acromegaly, neoplasma phases and hyperplasia;

    4) as fatty acids in cases of hypotonia, polycythemia;

    5) as mesenchymal, mucous substances rich in sulfur (amino sugars, hyaluronic acid, glucosamine, and others) in cases of myogelosis, arthrosis, osteochondrosis, rheumatism and arthritis;

    6) as oncogenic agent;

    7) as influenza virus.

    Hence, the pathological symptoms referred to, can be completely cured through biological treatment only, provided that a total abstinence from pork is observed.





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    Always avoid eating pork even in the smallest amount. If you have avoided eating pork for a few weeks, then occasional pork consumption of small amounts will produce an immediate increase in the defense system of the body which will appear as itching, inflammation or pains in weakened points of the body, disorders of the gall bladder (colics), inflammation of the appendix, rheumatic pains, etc. There may also be other inflammations or pre-warning signs such as tiredness, as well as a deterioration of eczema, irritation and dermatitis. All of these are symptoms caused by the poisonous nature of pork.

    In any event, many illnesses and the unhappiness they bring to you and your family can be avoided, providing you eliminate all forms of pork, and only buy sausages and meats that are absolutely pork-free.


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    Once you have kept a strict adherence to a pork free diet, you will begin to recognize when you have eaten food, which unknown to you, actually contained pork; simply due to the effect it has upon your own health.

    It should always be remembered that the whole pig consists of low grade material, fat, mucous, irritants, ichorous and other substances which will cause inflammation as well as dangerous hormones which when eaten and absorbed by the human intestinal tract decompose into ichor.

    Therefore, the only way to prevent ichorous illnesses is, to advise your patients of keeping a strict ban on all types of pork. Beef, veal, mutton, fowl and venison can be eaten without hesitation. Rabbit and hare should also be avoided.

    Prove to yourself that this information is genuine by abstaining from pork consumption. Be critical with yourself and reject all arguments. This abstinence in addition to biological and homeopathic treatment and natural methods, such as compresses, hydrotherapy, etc. will soon render improved health for yourself and all the members of your family. Disorders arising from the unintentional consumption of pork will be quick to heal through these natural processes as they allow the actual detoxication and removal of all the poisons and stress factors in pork.

    Healing, according to homotoxicology, means becoming free of toxins and toxin-damages.

    Health, according to homotoxicology, means being free of toxins and toxin-damages.

    These fundamental, time-honored principles based on the laws of nature call for a strict ban on eating pork by all people. These laws have been firmly established in the Jewish and Islamic religions and are necessary in the civilized Western world, not least to avoid enormous health-care expenses.




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    Once you have kept a strict adherence to a pork free diet, you will begin to recognize when you have eaten food, which unknown to you, actually contained pork; simply due to the effect it has upon your own health.

    It should always be remembered that the whole pig consists of low grade material, fat, mucous, irritants, ichorous and other substances which will cause inflammation as well as dangerous hormones which when eaten and absorbed by the human intestinal tract decompose into ichor.

    Therefore, the only way to prevent ichorous illnesses is, to advise your patients of keeping a strict ban on all types of pork. Beef, veal, mutton, fowl and venison can be eaten without hesitation. Rabbit and hare should also be avoided.

    Prove to yourself that this information is genuine by abstaining from pork consumption. Be critical with yourself and reject all arguments. This abstinence in addition to biological and homeopathic treatment and natural methods, such as compresses, hydrotherapy, etc. will soon render improved health for yourself and all the members of your family. Disorders arising from the unintentional consumption of pork will be quick to heal through these natural processes as they allow the actual detoxication and removal of all the poisons and stress factors in pork.

    Healing, according to homotoxicology, means becoming free of toxins and toxin-damages.

    Health, according to homotoxicology, means being free of toxins and toxin-damages.

    These fundamental, time-honored principles based on the laws of nature call for a strict ban on eating pork by all people. These laws have been firmly established in the Jewish and Islamic religions and are necessary in the civilized Western world, not least to avoid enormous health-care expenses.




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