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    All right, here's the Q part of the thread.

    Should one watch Dr. Giggles or Paradox (2017) first?

    Yes, this officially a first-world problem, but it is indeed a question of most importance.

    ETA that's good about the Wizard of Oz! How about a little fire, scarecrow! Poppies will make them sleep! Even if one doesn't like the movie, it's still such a profound influence on norteamericano culture.

    Plus, it's not even a joke: the Pink Floyd thing totally works.

    I wouldn't do it to anybody who wasn't already a little bit 'experienced,' but it is kind of a little trip in itself, just for fun.
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    The Pink Floyd thing kinda sorta works, but there are far more ways the movie and the album don't synch up than they do. You might find points of commonality with Birth of a Nation and Star Wars if you watched them as you played the album, too. For more:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Side_of_the_Rainbow
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia

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    Quote Originally posted by Elendil's Heir View post
    The Pink Floyd thing kinda sorta works, but there are far more ways the movie and the album don't synch up than they do
    Clearly you didn't start the 180g vinyl pressing at 0.05 s after the the third lion roar of the MGM logo.

    Yeah, people mess it up and they just don't get it, man.

    It's very precise.

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    No.

    Under no circumstances watch the "movie" called Dr. Giggles.

    Just, trust me. Don't even try.

    I don't which precise formulation of drugs one has to take to find it amusing. Giggle soup, strong acid, bad weed, uppers, downers, I don't know what, but it would have to be a lot of them, all at once, to find this "movie" amusing.

    That is one bad movie.

    Don't do it.

    And don't let your kids do it.

    And don't even think about it.

    That should be erased from planetary memory.

    So, it's a pretty bad movie, is what the point is.

    Just don't.

    Don't even look at it.

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    Also, don't bother with Paradox (2017) with fight choreography by the great Sammo Hung.

    It's like the others in that series: vast, tedious stretches of sentimental melodrama punctuated by some good fights.

    It's like a soap opera except instead of having somebody's twin brother with an eyepatch screwing his brother's wife, it's just...well, it's like that. With fighting.

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    My five most recent movies:

    Logan's Run
    Cheesy Seventies dystopic sf. Looks like it was filmed inside a mall... because it was. I'd just read the book, which is a lot different, and much better.

    13th
    Documentary about the 13th Amendment, structural racism, mass incarceration and criminal justice reform. Pretty good, but unavoidably grim.

    The Matrix
    Introduced my teenage son to this sf action thriller, and enjoyed it all over again. Great action sequences, a good cast, a nifty if preposterous premise and style out the wazoo.

    An American Pickle
    Disappointing comedy, with Seth Rogen playing both an Eastern European immigrant accidentally preserved in pickle brine for a century, and his struggling slacker great-grandson. A few laughs but it could've been a lot better.

    Air Force One
    Rewatched one of my favorite action thrillers. Harrison Ford is a heroic and badass POTUS, fighting to take back his hijacked plane from murderous Russian ultranationalists led by Gary Oldman (who's surprisingly nuanced in the role).

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    The NIght of the Hunter. It's, each time I see it, a little bit more grim and even profound as a social commentary. Rightfully so, most people probably remember Bob Mitchum's performance, but there's quite a bit to the movie. Although I'm not adept enough to describe such Sachverhalte.

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    Not really a movie. Not a movie at all.

    However, by the middle of the second season, the TV show The High Chaparral seemed to devolve into what some other shows of that rough period did (give or take a few years), like Then Came Bronson or Alias Smith and Jones. Namely a disjointed set of adventures with some kind of weak moral point.

    But Leif Erickson, Linda Crystal, the guy who played Ma˝uelito, and even the guy who played Blue Boy were pretty capable.

    Cameron Mitchell was the surprise: I didn't know he did anything but bottom-of-the-barrel late-1970s, earl-1980s Z-grade movies. "Buck Cannon" was a super character, and I'm sure was the object of admiration for young kids at the time who thought he was a super-bad, hard-drinking, hard-fighting rogue. Which he definitely was.

    In the season 2 episode "No Irish Need Apply," I don't think they even credited John Vernon, although he was the main guest star, and I don't think he was just a rank beginner at acting by that point. Maybe they did and I missed it. Definitely not in the final credits, and I don't think in the opening credits. That was odd. It was definitely him, though.

    I do not think I'll be watching the third or fourth seasons, after I acquire the rest of season two.

    And, no, don't even ask why I've bothered to seek out the particular TV shows I've mentioned, because I have no idea myself. At various times it seemed like a good diversion at various times.

    ETA Oh, and Ma˝uelito turned into just comic relief, and Blue Boy needed a good ass-kicking for remaining such a na´ve puss, especially after all his previous adventures.


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    Oh, after innumerable times, rewatching the Charles Bronson vehicle directed by Don Siegel, Telefon, about Donald Pleasance being a mad KGB operative or something goes around waking up "sleeper agents" in the US by, you guessed it, telephone.

    That was one time too many. Nothing against Lee Remick, but her performance was just not credible. Or barely credible. Bronson was OK, though. Pretty understated performance, I suppose like his others.
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    Telefon has been a movie I've wanted to see for a long time but have just never gotten around to.

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    Sorry about the spoilers, then. Actually I don't think I gave anything away that isn't in the first ten or twenty minutes: it's the whole premise of the movie, and the rest is really about the chase. Other than the premise that 1970s-model Lee Remick isn't a very good actress IMHO. And the "chase" likely had more tension in 1970s Soviet-US Cold War, and I won't say anything about how it ends.

    It's certainly worth seeing, though: some very cool episodes in the movie, and like 1970s-model Don Siegel pictures, it has at least a few themes and snippets that have persisted in film culture to this day.

    It's especially worth it if you fancy seeing middle-aged Sherri North in a hip-hugging housecoat. No spoilers there: Don Siegel in at least one other picture took advantage of the camera to feature her (clothed) backside. She's a super nice lady, and one of the best actresses who ever lived....perhaps only in some aspects, but still.

    Most everyone in the cast was excellent. Of course, Harry Dean Stanton, and Pleasance, and a bunch whose names I can't remember. It's just a neat movie.

    It's no Charley Varrick, but it's right beside it for 1970s-Siegel movies.
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    Oh. Update, they did credit John Vernon and several others in the opening credits.

    Like I always say to myself, "fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life." But I wasn't and am not drunk, at least!

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    I've seen it before, but *Terminator Salvation* is one of the worst "blockbuster" type movies I've ever seen. I really do think that McLovin or whatever the fuck the director calls himself by should kill himself.

    Also, the "movie" Gravity is effing stupid. An undergraduate's junior-year idea with a bunch of computer junk. Yes, I've also seen that before, but sometimes one gives a second chance to some "movies" after a certain amount of time and finds one's initial appraisals were correct.

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    I've come to appreciate Laura Dern as an actress, especially in her performance in Inland Empire. She is tremendously capable and she inhabits a role.

    Why is it that in, at least in three places in Wild At Heart and Blue Velvet she's using off-screen cues for her lines?

    It's obviously intentional, on the part of Duwayne Dunham or Lynch.

    I like it, as a bit of the fascination of finding things beneath the surface. It's not paranoia if it's true, and it's on the screen.

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    I haven't posted for a while. Seems like most of the recent movies I've seen were forgetable.

    On HBOMax, I just watched The Witches, a remake of the Roald Dahl story. Stars Octavia Spencer & Anne Hathaway with Stanley Tucci and Chris Rock & Kristin Chenoweth voice acting. It was well done and plenty different from the prior version.

    Onward by Pixar was very forgettable

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    It's been maybe a decade since I've seen Bad Day At Black Rock.

    It's a menacing first dozen or so shots.

    "In the meantime?"

    "In the meantime I crowd him a little. See if he's got any iron in his blood."

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    I saw Bad Day At Black Rock two or three years ago with a friend who loves it. I thought it was meh.

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    Faye Dunaway as Bonnie Parker.

    That's also been a number of years since I seen that, but that is a portrait of feminine frustration.

    Couldn't make it through The Girlfriend Experience again: once was enough.

    You know what they say. It's the face powder gives a man interest, but it's the bacon powder keeps him coming back.

    Yeah, ad B&C, I'd say, masculine rage and feminine frustration. I would say I know something about it. Not particularly Clyde's "problem," but in abstracto.
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    ETA "Well, how old are you, honey? — I'm thirty-three!. Cut to Gene Wilder's face. Priceless.

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    Here's a good double feature.

    Cronenberg's Crash, backed with Naked Lunch.

    Ad the latter? Contrary to my recollection, it's a fairly straightforward chronicle of one man's descent into drugs and madness. Not at all as I remember it.

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    All right, here's a legitimate Movie Question:

    At the beginning of Big Trouble in Little China, why exactly is Jack Burton carrying a saddlebag after his big game with Wang and the others?

    Obviously, it's you know, "This here's Jack Burton Portk Chop Express." Etc.

    But I bet you anything there's some behind the scenes info about that. Like, maybe it was a prop from a Jack Ford movie or something.

    Yeah, nothing. That's one thousand one hundred and forty eight times two, so pay up!

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    The count is in: I finally have a judgment about the movie The Seven-Ups.

    I think it's a terrible movie, right down to the soundtrack/score. If I wanted to live in early-mid 1970s Manhattan, I'd probably be dead by now from an overdose in CBGB's men's room or sitting in Alphabet City squalor.

    I'd vote it as about a tie for "quality" with the early-1980s feature film Alligator, starring Robert Forster and Gazzo.

    Mildly amusing.

    No. Alligator is a better movie.

    I love car-chase movies, but this one, the whole reason for the movie, is just not that good.

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    Actually, about the former in my latter post, the color scheme is effective in the final scene.

    I don't know if it was a deliberate choice of the photographer to use a particular speed of film, but it's very much similar to what Melville did in movies around the same time, like the latter's Un Flic.

    I find it effective, anyway, even if as a deliberate tip of the hat to contemporaries making crime movies.

    I don't know who the editor is, but I'd put the blame squarely at his or her feet: it's almost magnificently inept, almost like a trump card at editing. Just, astonishingly uncoordinated, inept, illiterate.

    The director is a nobody, but a good director would have been in the room with the editor.

    Think about it: who among great directors were also very involved in editing. Welles. Tarantino. Hawks. Polanski. Carpenter. Lynch. Truffaut.

    And then there were delegators. Probably Hawks gets a double mention -- he was inconsistent as an auteur. Allen. Scorsese, after an astonishing triumph in his first few decades. Cortiz. Ford.
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    Unhinged.

    It's better than Birdemic, and with a similar social conscience as Death Race 2000.

    Fat Russell Crowe is pretty good. Kind of a cross between an insane, deranged John Goodman and Bob Mitchum's character in Night of the Hunter.

    Never saw the lead actress before. She was OK, I guess: pretty dumb character, with stupid lines, but I suppose she did what she could with that. I was glad Jim**i S**mps** was only in the movie for a short scene: not my favorite actor. The opposite.

    I thought watching Crowe was pretty captivating: I've only seen a few of his movies, but if this was stunt weight-gaining, it was pretty extreme, and he's going to have a hell of a time getting rid of the fat at his age.

    Who knows, but it was a pretty good performance on his part.

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    The Usual Suspects. Yeah, of course seen it before.

    Cute, but it kind of loses its luster after it's one big trick.

    It is a nice little movie with a big surprise. They didn't show us the whole surprise, though. Kind of a cheap, grimy movie, but effective in its way.

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    On revisiting the Ed Wood "classic" Glen or Glenda, in the non-colorized version, I have to say that Ed Wood has done much better.

    On the other hand, the intermediary shadow play without dialogue is...it's...just...not...I wouldn't let any children watch that.

    If I had my way, so to speak, probably no adults either.

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    Ah. I think I've finally understood why all these little whiny baby kids are crapping themselves about "gaslighting."

    Yes, of course there's a movie about it, and there's at least one Hitchcock movie that features this, namely, Notorious...and maybe one more I'm not thinking about.

    But I finally got around to watching Wm Castle's infamous movie called The Tingler.

    Yes, indeed. It rung a few bells with me, namely remembering H-G Clouzot's classic Les diabolioques (I think they remade it with someone like Sharon Stone or something, but it was a real movie first).

    Cute.

    I'm in favor of gaslighting.

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    Police Story. It is still breathtaking, the imagination and capability to do the umbrella-bus scene.

    I've seen a lot of fight/action movies, including this one, but it still took my breath almost literally away for a brief few moments.

    Jackie Chan is the greatest American ever!

    Astonishing.

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    All right, this is going to fucking keep bothering me, on my second try through the The Seven-Ups.

    This time I'm halfway paying attention. Yeah, OK. Same universe as The French Connection, I guess.

    But Question: where in the hell are they fucking shooting this thing, you know, in relation to the real world. I get the first scene with Buddy (Roy Scheider's character) and his rat, north, on the East River. I'm guessing they're looking south to the Brooklyn Bridge.

    I can't remember it clearly. I don't know if there's a lot of continuity involved, in the shooting of this picture. It looks more like up Riverside Park, but on the wrong side, and the bridges say to me that can only be the east side, pretty far uptown.

    A lot of the following scenes, similar, up crossing over into the Bronx, and the Italian scenes, right over, probably up around Spanish Harlem-esque territory.

    That's just guesses: I think most the movie takes place between that little crook in the neck over up by there.

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    Here's an observation of a sort.

    Not especially pleasant, but then again I don't promise that.

    Oh. SPOILERS if you haven't seen CHARLEY VARRICK.

    Don Siegel's Charley Varrick, just when Matthau is getting rid of the corpse of his companion, Nadine.

    Never noticed this before: Nadine is, I believe either fully unconscious or dead.

    Matthau gives Nadine a full kiss on the mouth. Obviously, I observed the scene many times before, but I never before realized Nadine was a corpse at that point.

    You know, I don't know if I could do that IRL.

    Matthau plays it beautifully, the whole scene.

    Very disturbing. Yes, I've seen the movie about a hundred times, so what? Shuddup youse!
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