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    So you are on the crew of a spaceship that's traveling the universe, meeting new people and occasionally boffing them. Your ship finds a long forgotten Earth colony and an away team beams down to investigate. At some point in the colony's history it suffered a severe population bottleneck and the people were forced to clone themselves simply to keep going.

    During the course of your explorations, you discover that the colonists have stolen some of your genetic information and are going to make a You Clone. Unlike the cloning of the early 21st century, this will not be a unique individual who happens to share your DNA and is a few decades younger than you. No, out of a pod will pop a fully formed, fully adult human being who looks, thinks, and remembers just like you.

    It is, of course, illegal for the colonists to do this and upon discovery their laboratory is siezed. Your superior officer leaves it to you to decide whether or not to destroy your clone before it is fully grown.

    Do you?

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    What is it growing to? My current age or does it have to mature the normal way. Because if it will match my age, hey fuck buddy! and if it needs to mature, I'll just readjust its oxygen supply while growing in order to create my very own brain dead organ farm.
    I don't think so, therefore I'm probably not.

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    Oh, I remember that episode of TNG. IIRC, they were growing to the cloned person's current age within a few hours or days.

    Even if your clone is "you" and was made without your permission, it strikes me as really creepy to kill it. I don't know if I'd be comfortable enough to be on the intimate terms Sticks suggests, but I'd probably let my clone finish growing and have its own life.
    So now they are just dirt-covered English people in fur pelts with credit cards.

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    See, I came to that conclusion because if he thinks just like me, then given the fact that i find myself hot stuff, he'll find me hot stuff and I him as well.
    I don't think so, therefore I'm probably not.

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    Yeah, I can see that. However, if my clone thinks just like me then there would be problems in the bedroom as I'm not sure I'd be entirely compatible with myself. At the very least, there'd be a lot of arguing about who was doing what.
    So now they are just dirt-covered English people in fur pelts with credit cards.

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    I'd keep me around, totally. Not sure I'd be quite as intimate as y'all are talking. If either of us thought that way, we'd probably just...giggle and avoid eye contact.
    So, I'll whisper in the dark, hoping you'll hear me.

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    Hmm, I'd see no reason to kill the clone. I like Me!

    The sex part is a bit tricky. After all, who knows better than Me where I like to be touched? On the other hand, I suspect Me would expect reciprocity in the relationship, since I know I would. And that could be problematic. Being on the receiving end of a 4-hour sensual back and (mumblemumbledeletedforprivacyreasons) massage would be excellent. Administering said massage would be boring.

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    I'd let him live, on the condition we didn't have to hang out.

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    Quote Originally posted by Inner Stickler View post
    Lots of stuff to the affirmative.
    Quote Originally posted by Zuul View post
    it strikes me as really creepy to kill it.
    Quote Originally posted by Marsilia View post
    I'd keep me around, totally..
    Quote Originally posted by Hatshepsut View post
    Hmm, I'd see no reason to kill the clone. I like Me!
    Quote Originally posted by RabbitMage View post
    I'd let him live.
    So, we're pretty much coming down firmly on the anti-clone-killing side, yes?
    So, I'll whisper in the dark, hoping you'll hear me.

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    We seem to largely be pro-clone-life, yes.
    So now they are just dirt-covered English people in fur pelts with credit cards.

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    I wouldn't kill my clone. Nor would I have sex with it. Honestly, that's kind of creepy. Plus I'm not my type.

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    I think the clone can stay alive, on one condition. It never leaves the planet, because one of me is more than enough trouble thank you very much. Of course, there is the problem that you get to find out just how annoying those minor habits really are that you thought were fine. I'd probably drive myself nuts.

    I think I would find someone else's clone to have sex with.
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    I'd kill him and while I did it I'd want to look in his face so I could watch the life go out of his eyes. It'd be great preparation for when it inevitably happens to me.

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    It would be self-defense. I know he'd be after me. If he's thinking the same as I, he's going to have huge anger issues, and while I don't think killing me would make things objectively better for my clone, I'm also pretty sure he'd figure it would be an excellent place to start simplifying his situation.

    And the final battle would ring with: "There can be only one!" Killing him before he woke up would be, if not a mercy killing, at least a prudent move.

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    He's a human being. He's me. I wouldn't want somebody killing me, why would I kill him. Let us both go on our ways.

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    Quote Originally posted by Scumpup View post
    I'd kill him and while I did it I'd want to look in his face so I could watch the life go out of his eyes. It'd be great preparation for when it inevitably happens to me.
    Dark. Very dark.

    I wouldn't have my clone killed either, though I'd be pretty creeped out by it. I'd probably do some tweak to make him have white blond hair or have a weird birthmark or something so he couldn't pretend to be me after he got out.

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    Someone once summed this up better than I could:

    "I love myself. Unfortunately, it's unrequited love".

    We'd hang out, take advantage of the situation - I'd finally find someone willing to roadtest some boardgame ideas I have, etc. But we would come to loathe each other very quickly... the amount of attention I get is barely sufficient for one ego. In the end we would agree to leave, maybe agree to meet up every ten years but never do.

    We'd hate each other. And I'd hate myself for hating... me. Oh, you know what I mean. But it would be a comforting thought, underneath all that twisted loathing, that out there is someone enough like me.

    As long as the fucker didn't become famous or successful enough for me to hear about it.
    Something tells me we haven't seen the last of foreshadowing.

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    Hell no, I wouldn't kill my clone. Are you insane? He comes out of that pod with my exact body and memories. He's exactly like me in every way.

    THIS IS THE ULTIMATE CONTROL GROUP FOR EXPERIMENTS.

    I'm ashamed for you for not realizing that sooner.

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    Quote Originally posted by Nrblex View post
    THIS IS THE ULTIMATE CONTROL GROUP FOR EXPERIMENTS.
    And people were wondering why I was so sure that my clone would be trying to kill me. If I can figure this out, so can he! Kill him while he's still helpless.

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    Gone, baby!

    Talk about identity theft! My clone couldn't help but take on my identity.

    What happens when the clone has different causes and tries to use your identity to further their cause like the Will Riker episode on DS9?

    Would killing it be illegal like the clone that set up Odo on DS9?

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    What if your clone was killed by someone else? Would you mourn it? Would you feel like your relatives should be informed that this perfect copy of you died?

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    Good God, no! If my family know my clone had ever existed, they'd believe I killed him! No matter what the evidence might be.

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    Quote Originally posted by Peeta Mellark View post
    What if your clone was killed by someone else? Would you mourn it? Would you feel like your relatives should be informed that this perfect copy of you died?
    This may seem incongruous since I would be the one wanting the clone to be killed, but I'd still mourn her loss. It would be like losing a part of myself.

    But yeah, I wouldn't want the relatives to even know she existed.

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    What if...you were a soccer player and your plane crashed in the Andes and your clone died and no one will ever know what you did while trapped there.

    Would you eat your clone? Just a nibble?

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    But... what if I tasted good?

    That would be a serious problem once I finished eating AllWalker 2.0...
    Something tells me we haven't seen the last of foreshadowing.

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    That's what future clones are for, duh.

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    Heh. Cloning, and the voluntary sharing of genetic material for cloning, are issues in our current Mellophant Star Trek RPG.

    I tend to agree with CatInASuit's views on this one. Or consider what Isaac Asimov wrote: http://members.tripod.com/~bardic_circle/aclone.htm

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    Why should such sex vex,
    Or disturb or perplex,
    Or induce a disparaging tone?
    After all, don't you see,
    Since we're both of us me,
    When we're having sex, I'm alone.

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    Quote Originally posted by Peeta Mellark View post
    What if...you were a soccer player and your plane crashed in the Andes and your clone died and no one will ever know what you did while trapped there.

    Would you eat your clone? Just a nibble?
    I wouldn't really think of my clone as a unique being. As you say, there can be more, so if I was starving and I could stomach eating it, I probably would. I wouldn't equate it to eating another person.

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    And when I'm alone

    With my own little clone

    We will both think of nothing but sex.
    Wouldn't this be exhausting?

    [Offtopic slightly]
    Does anyone remember that movie that was about virtual reality where you could put headphones on and have the entire experience of whatever was playing? It always horrified me to see the guy who put a sex tape on a perpetual loop and died of exhaustion (or something) watching it over and over.

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    Was that Strange Days? I only ever got about halfway through with it.
    So now they are just dirt-covered English people in fur pelts with credit cards.

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    Quote Originally posted by Zuul View post
    Was that Strange Days? I only ever got about halfway through with it.
    Nope, I just searched for it. It was called Brainstorm. And I guess the guy didn't actually die, only almost, according to the wiki.

    Hey, a holiday movie for everyone to enjoy! Actually, it's not that good. It's super old. I saw it on TV, so it was already old news by the time I watched it. But the guy almost dying from too much sex really stuck with me, I guess.

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    Whoa. That sounds like a really bizarre movie, particularly the ending.
    So now they are just dirt-covered English people in fur pelts with credit cards.

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    I wouldn't kill my clone, nor would I have sex with myself. But a three way with two of me sharing a girl might be fun. Better yet my clone and myself with a couple of clones of my favorite girl, now that will fill a weekend.
    Welcome to Mellophant.

    We started with nothing and we still have most of it left.

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    Clone orgy. I can see it.

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    Is your clone voyeuristic too?

    Then you could have a clone orgy watching a clone orgy.

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    I look forward to the day when, with the aid of CGI, a porn version of Attack of the Clones is made.

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