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    Can someone tell me a little more about these shiny vampires and werewolves please?

    From what I have picked up, I am beginning to think that these new vamps and lycanthropes have taken on some of the ancient attributes of the Faerie or Sidhe.

    They are still basically night creatures, not human but capable of mixing with, among and breeding with humans? They have good and bad but mostly other? They have strong powers humans do not? Perhaps charm ability and the like?

    Is this at all accurate, where are the differences? Any changelings yet?
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    I have only read the first third or so of the first book but I will try to help -

    The Meyer vampires are not night creatures. The vamp family that the hero belongs to lives in a very overcast and rainy Pacific northwest town, because if exposed to direct sunlight they will - NOT die. Instead, their skin shimmers and shines as if covered by diamonds, and then all the humans would know their speshel secret.

    They have super speed and super strength. Edward can read minds but I think that is supposed to be a characteristic separate from his vampire powers. The Cullens are "good" vampires and drink only animal blood but there are "bad" vampires who try to kidnap Bella, because Bella is the center of the fucking universe and everyone wants to bang or kill her. (Sorry, my loathing for the character took over for a bit.)

    I don't know anything about the werewolves, having not read that far. I know that they can "imprint" on the person that will be their lifemate, which leads the werewolf hero to fall in love with Bella's infant daughter. I don't know if Bella was turned into a vampire before she had Edward's baby or not.

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    All I can tell you is that the last one was killed in 1958. Its name was Frederick and it had been on the run for decades. Finally an astoundingly good hunter know as PT Barnium the Third caught up with him in the jungles of Burma. Sighting the wayward werewolf through the trusty iron sites of his rifle he said a soft prayer before causing rapid expansion of the foul beasts brain cavity. Photos abound of Barnium's last catch, and indeed the last reported vampire or werewolf spotted alive.

    We have many to thank for the freedom to walk the nights in peace. Sir Alfred Romald, killer of over 300 vampires and 380 "witches". Thomas Crombey the Fifteenth, an inbred genetic mutant who loved amoung all others the torturing and dismembering of captured werewolves. Lady Elinore Patricks, the famed midnight hunter of Dublin, responsible for the complete extermination of all were/fae creatures in Ireland including several funny faced old men and two hobbits.

    For their sacrifices we live in peace.

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    I would like to change my answer to hatesfreedom's.

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    Quote Originally posted by What Exit? View post
    From what I have picked up, I am beginning to think that these new vamps and lycanthropes have taken on some of the ancient attributes of the Faerie or Sidhe.
    Similar, actually. I've also read a "demigod" comparison.
    They are still basically night creatures, not human but capable of mixing with, among and breeding with humans? They have good and bad but mostly other? They have strong powers humans do not? Perhaps charm ability and the like?
    In Twilight, none of the vampires or "werewolves" (in the fourth book, it's revealed that the more classical "moon children" actually existed at one point, but were killed off throughout Europe) are what I'd call night creatures. They come out during the day without any real risk, and the werewolves actually have to keep some semblance of a sleep schedule.

    The vampires are describes as the perfect predator for humans. They're stronger, faster, and more focused than humans. They're also more beautiful, and even have better breath. Some of them have special powers beyond those, though the extra stuff is leftover from their human lives.

    The shape shifters, on the other hand, don't have that same "charm ability." Their ability is described in a mix of pseudo-science and made up folklore that states that (and, it's been a while since I read New Moon, so some of this could be wrong) their ancestors had the ability to spirit walk, and after a vampire attack, one of them spirit walked right into a wolf. He taught some of the others of his tribe to do it, and they became the guardians of their people until they thought the vampire threat had ended. Since that time, people of the original wolves' families have "carried the gene" to shape shift on the off chance that the vampires come back.

    Both species are pretty much immortal, as vampires are frozen in time, and werewolves rapid age to about twenty-five during the change and stay that way until they give up shifting (they're not moon called, so they can just decide to live full time as wolf or man).
    Any changelings yet?
    Well, like I said, a werewolf baby would just "carry the gene," but be otherwise human. In the fourth book, though, they introduce the idea of a vampire hybrid. Vampire women are infertile, since their bodies are frozen, but vampire men have a venom that can act as semen and impregnate human women. It's apparently not something that happens all the time, and it usually kills the human mother (the hybrid birth scene was grizzly), but there are a handfull of them.

    Hope that cleared it up.

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    Alright, I haven't read the books but between my niece, friends who are fans, and reading about them on Wikipedia for lulz, this is what I've discovered:

    Vampires are dead. Yep. Definitely dead. They sparkle in daylight, revealing their inhumanity, and they don't eat food. Those who drink human blood have red eyes, those who drink animal blood have eyes that fade to amber. They cannot breed with humans unless

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    the vampire in question has been saving his sperm since death and manages to shoot those last remaining, living sperm off at just the right moment. Yes. I am serious. Then those sperm will make a baby that is half vampire and a super genius who becomes an adult in like two years or something and your ex-boyfriend falls in love with her while she's still a scary tiny baby genius.


    Most vampires feed off of humans and the big vampire council thingy in Italy is all run by man-eating vampires. There are a few vampires who only drink animal blood, but it's nothing like a Seelie and Unseelie court or something. They're a teeny, tiny, self-loathing minority.

    Being a werewolf appears to be a genetic predisposition, carried by one's father in one particular Native American tribe. The ability to become a wolf remains dormant unless there are vampires around causing trouble, in which case the werewolfiness is awakened as a protective measure for the tribe. Werewolves are almost always male.

    If any fairies show up, I imagine Bella will make out with one. I'm fairly certain she's required to hump her way through the supernatural menagerie.

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    Quote Originally posted by Myrnalene View post
    ...if exposed to direct sunlight they will - NOT die. Instead, their skin shimmers and shines as if covered by diamonds, and then all the humans would know their speshel secret.

    They have super speed and super strength. Edward can read minds but I think that is supposed to be a characteristic separate from his vampire powers...
    As my brother very reasonably pointed out to me, why should these vampires give a shit if all the humans knew about them? They're so fucking powerful that if I were one of them, I'd drink the blood of whomever I felt like, and flip a diamond-sparkly double barrel middle finger salute to the human cops while I did. Meyer's world-building and plot devices are so flimsy, they make J.K. Rowling look like George R.R. Martin.

    To take vampires, and basically remove their weaknesses, makes the whole thing an exercise in really juvenile fantasy.
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    Quote Originally posted by OneCentStamp View post
    As my brother very reasonably pointed out to me, why should these vampires give a shit if all the humans knew about them? They're so fucking powerful that if I were one of them, I'd drink the blood of whomever I felt like, and flip a diamond-sparkly double barrel middle finger salute to the human cops while I did. Meyer's world-building and plot devices are so flimsy, they make J.K. Rowling look like George R.R. Martin.

    To take vampires, and basically remove their weaknesses, makes the whole thing an exercise in really juvenile fantasy.
    I've thought similarly. If they're so ridiculously powerful and difficult to kill and never have that daytime weakness, why in God's name would they ever be afraid of people? It's baffling and bizarre.

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    This does help, I have only picked up snippets of info from various places. So this does answer a lot of questions and confirms most of my fears. I think I will blame Buffydom for this atrocity. That seems fair.

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    Quote Originally posted by What Exit? View post
    This does help, I have only picked up snippets of info from various places. So this does answer a lot of questions and confirms most of my fears. I think I will blame Buffydom for this atrocity. That seems fair.
    Why? The two things are completely unrelated. Most of the Twilight fen were babies when BtVS was on the air. Don't blame anybody except Stephanie Meyers. She wanted to write some Mormon-safe stroke material about a being that looks just like Joseph Smith (except immortal), living in an ideal Mormon family, and the stupid Mary Sue good enough for vampire!JS.
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    Quote Originally posted by What Exit? View post
    This does help, I have only picked up snippets of info from various places. So this does answer a lot of questions and confirms most of my fears. I think I will blame Buffydom for this atrocity. That seems fair.
    If it makes you feel better, which is probably won't, Joss Whedon didn't invent the teen vampire romance. Meyer's stuff has more in common with LJ Smith's vampires.

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    Quote Originally posted by pepperlandgirl View post
    Why? The two things are completely unrelated. Most of the Twilight fen were babies when BtVS was on the air. Don't blame anybody except Stephanie Meyers. She wanted to write some Mormon-safe stroke material about a being that looks just like Joseph Smith (except immortal), living in an ideal Mormon family, and the stupid Mary Sue good enough for vampire!JS.
    Well, I feel the Buffy fandom and the way the show went really led to taking the edge off of Vampires in the first place, but yes I see where this was actually a huge jump from that. It was those crazy Buffy fans and wannabe vampires though I was blaming, not Whedon directly.

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    Quote Originally posted by What Exit? View post
    Well, I feel the Buffy fandom and the way the show went really led to taking the edge off of Vampires in the first place, but yes I see where this was actually a huge jump from that. It was those crazy Buffy fans and wannabe vampires though I was blaming, not Whedon directly.
    Well, to be fair, vampires in Buffydom were almost exclusively evil. And unlike the Meyer vamps they could be destroyed in various ways, and while their main antagonist was the super-powered Buffy they occasionally got theirs from normal humans like Xander and Giles as well.

    Also, as Marsilia mentions, the "romantic" vampire in literature is not new to Meyer. See Anne Rice and all the way back to Lord Ruthven.

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    Even the two "good" vampires in BtVS still had their evil moments. And either Angel or Spike could totally destroy Edward.
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    Quote Originally posted by Zuul View post
    Being a werewolf appears to be a genetic predisposition, carried by one's father in one particular Native American tribe. The ability to become a wolf remains dormant unless there are vampires around causing trouble, in which case the werewolfiness is awakened as a protective measure for the tribe. Werewolves are almost always male.
    Sounds like Meyers ripped off Werewolf: the Apocalypse. (White Wolf RPG, for the unfamiliar.) That's fairly close to some of the backstory for that game.
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    Quote Originally posted by Taumpy View post
    Sounds like Meyers ripped off Werewolf: the Apocalypse. (White Wolf RPG, for the unfamiliar.) That's fairly close to some of the backstory for that game.
    Whoa, you're right. I was thinking she'd stolen it from an episode of the Twilight Zone which has the exact. Same. Setup. (Vampire comes to town, people start behaving funny, one night they change forms and go kill him, it's explained that this is some genetically hardwired response to the threat of a vampire being nearby, etc.)

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    And let us not forget that Bella is delivered of her baby via Edward using his teeth to perform a C-section.

    These books are some of the worst tripe I've ever had the displeasure to read. I'm all for mind candy and escapism, but my god--there is some twisted shit in these books.

    1. Edward stalks Bella, to the point of being in her bedroom while she's asleep, and she's fine with that.

    2. She pushes to have sex (NEVER stated directly in the book); he refuses. And refuses. Over and over and over again.

    3. Thunderstorms? Ever been startled and a bit awed by the fury of a thunderstorm? No worries--it's not Thor bowling or the meeting of hot and cold fronts; it's vampires playing baseball! Yes, you read that correctly.

    4.Bella is clumsy. Clumsy, clumsy, clumsy. She makes a young Jerry Lewis look like Fred Astaire. Yet every single guy is hot for her. Every single girls wants to be like her. And still she bemoans her clutziness. She never tries to improve herself or see a doctor about her disturbing lack of proprioception (which is developed and then forgotten by about page 100).

    I could go on, but mercifully, most of this book (I remember the first the one the most) has been expunged from my mind.

    I can see 13 year old girls reading this drivel and gushing. What floors me is the grown women who are over the moon about Meyers. Gag.

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    Quote Originally posted by eleanorigby View post
    4.Bella is clumsy. Clumsy, clumsy, clumsy. She makes a young Jerry Lewis look like Fred Astaire. Yet every single guy is hot for her. Every single girls wants to be like her. And still she bemoans her clutziness. She never tries to improve herself or see a doctor about her disturbing lack of proprioception (which is developed and then forgotten by about page 100).
    Bella is a bitch. There is not one character that she has met so far in my reading of Twilight (like I said, I'm about a third of the way through) that she does not feel scorn for except for Edward. She feels a mild patronizing contempt for both her parents. Every boy she meets wants to go out with her, to her disdain. Every girl is jealous of her. Her own descriptions of her interactions with the kids that are friendly to her and take her into their social circle make me wonder why they don't punch her in her snobby face.

    She is also rude to Edward even while being obsessed with him. He saves her life, but when he shows no inclination to hang out with her afterward, she whines, "Why did you even bother?" I don't know, and I would be far happier if he didn't, you annoying little shit.

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    Quote Originally posted by eleanorigby View post
    And let us not forget that Bella is delivered of her baby via Edward using his teeth to perform a C-section.
    What the shit. I knew the Twilight books were bad. I knew that they were, of all things, a promotion of Mormon patriarchal values wrapped in a sparkly leech-man skin. But I've watched two c-sections in the last week, and I have to say, that is the least romantic thing I've heard in a long time.

    (What did he use to close...?)

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    No idea how one closes a grossly uneven laceration such as the gash left by a vampire "bite" like that. Probably secondary intention, which will leave quite a scar.

    Myrna--of course Bella's a bitch. I thought we all knew that. And her chums are clueless as well (for as long as they last, which isn't long). There is not one thing attractive about Bella. The only characteristic that Meyers develops is her clumsiness--like it's supposed to make her more human and vulnerable. Instead she comes off as even more of a jerk than she is (which is saying something).

    Seriously, I hope that girls go back to Disneyfied Cinderella and Beauty and the Beast. Hell, Harlequin romances have a better "message" than Twilight.

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    Obligatory Buffy vs Edward youtube mix.



    I think there are a lot of BtVS fans who really don't like Twilight.
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    Anyway we could put a spoiler warning in the thread title?

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    Spoiler warning added - given it does have a few ending details.
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    Quote Originally posted by CatInASuit View post
    Obligatory Buffy vs Edward youtube mix.



    I think there are a lot of BtVS fans who really don't like Twilight.
    That is the funniest video ever. Next I hope she slays Stephenie Meyers.

    Can any of the ex-Mormons here say anything about the name "Renesmee", which is what Bella names her daughter? I have heard that Utah Mormons frequently give their children names that are remixes of parents/ancestors names. (Stephenie, in fact, is named after her father, which I guess explains why her name is misspelled.) Is the name Renesmee yet another example of weirdo crypto Mormonism?

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    Yeah really spoiler alert was well needed, now after a certain post i don't know if i wanna continue reading the final book.

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    Oh and the name thing is a mix of Bella's mother's name Rene and Edward's "mother's" name Esme
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    Quote Originally posted by Exy View post
    Can any of the ex-Mormons here say anything about the name "Renesmee", which is what Bella names her daughter? I have heard that Utah Mormons frequently give their children names that are remixes of parents/ancestors names.
    Mormons might do it, but it's not an exclusively Mormon thing. I was looking at baby name books for character ideas, and one of them talked about "new age" baby names and discussed the name blending thing.

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    Quote Originally posted by Marsilia View post
    Mormons might do it, but it's not an exclusively Mormon thing. I was looking at baby name books for character ideas, and one of them talked about "new age" baby names and discussed the name blending thing.
    Yeah, but Mormons absolutely do it, and that's where Meyers got the idea from. Actually, I think it's nice that she went that route, otherwise the baby might have been named Edwardina. Or Swan.

    For other Mormon name madness, check out The Utah Baby Namer.
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    Quote Originally posted by eleanorigby View post
    No idea how one closes a grossly uneven laceration such as the gash left by a vampire "bite" like that. Probably secondary intention, which will leave quite a scar.
    I guess Edward can also serve as her wound vac!

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    Quote Originally posted by CatInASuit View post
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    I think there are a lot of BtVS fans who really don't like Twilight.
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    Quote Originally posted by artifex View post
    I guess Edward can also serve as her wound vac!
    Too funny.

    As to the spoilers--I have badly misjudged the audience here. My apologies to those who actually want to read these books. Believe me, knowing that bit about the birth will not "ruin" anything for you. After all, I didn't say WHY she needed a C section. Enjoy.

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    Quote Originally posted by eleanorigby View post
    Too funny.

    As to the spoilers--I have badly misjudged the audience here. My apologies to those who actually want to read these books. Believe me, knowing that bit about the birth will not "ruin" anything for you. After all, I didn't say WHY she needed a C section. Enjoy.
    I always thought it was a bit tragic how much fear and disgust that scene reflected about the whole childbirth process. Why would she want her perfect Mary Sue to go through so much grotesque suffering? I can't wait until they make that film, honestly. I think the birth scene will be magnificent on the big screen.
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    Quote Originally posted by eleanorigby View post
    Too funny.

    As to the spoilers--I have badly misjudged the audience here. My apologies to those who actually want to read these books. Believe me, knowing that bit about the birth will not "ruin" anything for you. After all, I didn't say WHY she needed a C section. Enjoy.
    What a bunch of pricks...

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    Quote Originally posted by Mrs. Gadai View post
    What a bunch of pricks...
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    Quote Originally posted by pepperlandgirl View post
    I always thought it was a bit tragic how much fear and disgust that scene reflected about the whole childbirth process. Why would she want her perfect Mary Sue to go through so much grotesque suffering? I can't wait until they make that film, honestly. I think the birth scene will be magnificent on the big screen.
    But you and I know that it won't be on the big screen--not if they want to keep a PG-13 rating... The first book was even more dumbed down (if that is possible) for the film.

    IMO, Meyers has some major issues with being female and sexual (and has almost no knowledge at all about what it is to be male and sexual, but that could be excused--although it shows a true paucity of imagination and dealing with real live males).

    Robert Pattison may be a bit odd, but he really doesn't deserve to stuck in such a horrid franchise. I feel sorry for him. What'shername I can't separate from Bella, so I don't much care (I haven't seen any of her other work to know her merit as an actor).

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    Quote Originally posted by eleanorigby View post
    Robert Pattison may be a bit odd, but he really doesn't deserve to stuck in such a horrid franchise. I feel sorry for him. What'shername I can't separate from Bella, so I don't much care (I haven't seen any of her other work to know her merit as an actor).
    From the celeb gossip I've read (mostly at the behest of Pepper and Myrna in chat) it sounds like Kristin Stewart's in about the same situation as Robert -- making some big bucks but pretty contemptuous of the whole Twilight franchise.

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    Quote Originally posted by Exy View post
    From the celeb gossip I've read (mostly at the behest of Pepper and Myrna in chat) it sounds like Kristin Stewart's in about the same situation as Robert -- making some big bucks but pretty contemptuous of the whole Twilight franchise.
    Then there's hope for her. Perhaps this could become a watershed question of a sort on an IQ test: Do you think that Twilight is intelligently written or even a good story? If they say yes, their score drops by 50 points.


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